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Obama, Karzai Call for “Taliban Office” in Afghanistan
Cybercast News Service ^ | January 11, 2013 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 01/11/2013 6:39:51 PM PST by Olog-hai

The Taliban, which harbored al Qaeda in Afghanistan in the lead up to the 9/11 attacks on America in 2001, will have an office in Afghanistan and engage in direct talks with the democratic government there, President Barack Obama and Afghan President Hamid Karzai affirmed at a joint White House news conference Friday.

“Ultimately security gains must be matched by political progress, so we’ve recommitted our nations to a reconciliation process between the Afghan government and the Taliban,” Obama said. “President Karzai updated me on the Afghan government’s road map to peace, and today we agreed that this process should be advanced by the opening of a Taliban office to facilitate talks.”

Karzai agreed this would be an important step for the peace process.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 9112001; afghanistan; afghanwar; appeasement; india; iran; jihad; karzai; pakistan; qatar; saudiarabia; taliban; talibanoffice; turkey; uzbekistan; waronterror
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There goes that phrase “peace process” again. Looks like it really means dhimmitude process—surrender to Islamofascists on all fronts.
1 posted on 01/11/2013 6:40:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Political Progress = the transformation of America.

What Bizzaro earth have I landed on?


2 posted on 01/11/2013 6:44:04 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Olog-hai

Surrender.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 6:44:48 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai

I thought that one of our primary objectives for being in Afghanistan was to get rid of the Taliban?

Get us the hell out of this worthless waste of a country NOW! Let the rag heads spend their wrath on each other not on our soldiers.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 6:46:58 PM PST by doc1019
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5 posted on 01/11/2013 6:50:16 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: doc1019

They don’t intend to spend their wrath on each other. And the faster we run away, the more emboldened they’ll get.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 6:51:09 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
There goes that phrase “peace process” again. Looks like it really means dhimmitude process—surrender to Islamofascists on all fronts.

There are very few Christians and Jews in Afghanistan, so I would expect when we are gone, and there are not many Infidels left to kill, the Sunnis will start to knuckle under the Shiite minority in Afghanistan. -Tom

7 posted on 01/11/2013 6:52:45 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Olog-hai

So, I guess we continue to sacrifice our young troops to a loosing cause?

As for spending their wrath on each other ... they were doing this long before we got involved. This culture has been involved in tribe against tribe mayhem for millennia.


8 posted on 01/11/2013 6:57:54 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Olog-hai

more flexibility after I’m reelected


9 posted on 01/11/2013 7:03:52 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: doc1019
The troops only get sacrificed due to being told not to fight. What is getting them killed is the fact that our generals are not following advice from The Art Of War . . . specifically this:
If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it; if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not fight even at the ruler’s bidding. (10:23)
Instead we have generals that care more about what the politicians tell them than what will work. (The Art Of War was meant for generals.)

Running away from Vietnam made us look like cowards. Running away from Iraq made us look like even bigger cowards. Running away from Afghanistan will make us look like we have no will to fight at all. And that will not invite peace within our own borders; rather the opposite.
10 posted on 01/11/2013 7:04:25 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

All you need to know is how the liberal democrats despised our allies in Southeast Asia, and forced the deaths of millions after our Vietnam withdrawal - to understand what they are capable of.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 7:06:19 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Olog-hai

Give them an office in the White House the Taliban is already there, they may as well have an office.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 7:06:23 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Olog-hai

I assume the Taliban office in Afghanistan will have direct communications with the Taliban office in Washington D.C.


13 posted on 01/11/2013 7:07:06 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Venturer

I guess we had a similar train of thought.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 7:08:41 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Olog-hai

It moved from the White Crib to Afghanistan? Whoda thunk it?


15 posted on 01/11/2013 7:10:47 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Olog-hai

So, to save face we continue to sacrifice our best and brightest? As a veteran of VN I say BS. Get us the hell out of Afghanistan and let them fight their own fight.

If our troops are not allowed to fight via conventional rules of engagement then we should leave. Like VN we are fighting for a people that don’t give a damn and wish we were gone so they can get on with their regular lives ...


16 posted on 01/11/2013 7:16:01 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Olog-hai

I’d say surrender monkey but it’d probably be interpreted as racist.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 7:24:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

So we should stay in Iraq and Afghanistan? Should we invade Iran and all other Islamic s***holes? What about Mexico, Central America, and South America? Africa? Where does it end?


18 posted on 01/11/2013 7:27:53 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Olog-hai

1. How exactly is there reconciliation between the United States and a terrorist group that participated in 9/11?

2. If we went into Afghanistan to destroy the Taliban then why are we recognizing them politically while still maintaining troops there.

If Obama is going to be chummy with 9/11 terrorist groups then get our soldiers the hell out of there ... now!! what the hell are they dying for ... now?

3. Is any House Republican going to speak out against this craziness? Impeach the SOB!


19 posted on 01/11/2013 7:28:38 PM PST by plain talk
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To: doc1019

Did I misidentify the problem that resulted in sacrificing instead of fighting? Since you pointed out the problem with rules of engagement, I would think you do get it to an extent. I don’t know if you agree that generals should fight even when the ruler (in this case the POTUS and his administration) tells them not to, in the case of fighting assuring victory that is.

If you want to invite more attacks on the home soil, the proverbial declaring of victory and running away surely is the way to do it. They will not leave us alone.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 7:29:35 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: EEGator

Iran has been identified as the #1 state sponsor of terrorism for many decades; they’ve declared war on us over and over and we didn’t act. Nothing was done about them, so the problem spread across many other countries. Now it’s in Egypt, and it’s starting to grow in Ethiopia. If we pull back to our own borders, then they will follow us there. Bad enough that a “pre-9/11 mentality” has already been identified in the thinking at DC. We surely didn’t wait for Germany to attack us on home soil—as soon as they declared war on us after Pearl Harbor, off we went to meet them in Europe.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 7:34:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Tonight on “Taliban Office,” Mohammed Scott beheads Meredith for drunkeness before Allah! Elsewhere, Jim Ali Hussein forces his new wife Pam into a burkah under threat of beating! Tune in!


22 posted on 01/11/2013 7:35:39 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Olog-hai

There is never been a lasting peace in Afghanistan,what will probably happen is Karzai’s government will collapse and the Taliban will return to the territory they controlled circa 9/11.

While remnants of the old government return to the old Northern Alliance frontier.What is idiotic is that our soldiers are still getting killed,still getting in trouble and still being lectured on absolute bs on how to treat the locals.


23 posted on 01/11/2013 7:37:39 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: Olog-hai
They will not leave us alone

Staying in Afghanistan or leaving will not determine whether these animals will leave us alone. IMHO

24 posted on 01/11/2013 7:38:29 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Future Snake Eater

I hope Dwight mohammed is still funny...


25 posted on 01/11/2013 7:42:58 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Olog-hai

I agree with your first couple sentences, but you didn’t answer any of the questions I asked.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 7:45:31 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Olog-hai

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27 posted on 01/11/2013 7:46:16 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: EEGator

Well, you asked where does it end, so the only way to answer that was to identify where it began at the very least, that being Iran. Take out Iran and the rest of them will be severely weakened. But that seems to be the untouchable country on any president’s list.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 7:51:47 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: doc1019

All depends on what we do if we stay. Running will not make them say “OK, time to leave the Great Satan alone, they’ve had enough” . . .


29 posted on 01/11/2013 7:53:26 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

True ... turn Afghanistan into a sea of glass would be the only thing that would quite the taliban down, however the taliban had nothing to do with 9/11.

Islamist will be forever targeting the US and our presence in Afghanistan will do nothing to deter them.


30 posted on 01/11/2013 8:04:05 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Olog-hai

I recall Truman set up a Nazi Office in the new Germny under the same thinking.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 8:11:25 PM PST by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Olog-hai
It is impossible for negotiate with Muslims as they are all part of the same evil cult. (Yes, Islam is not a legitimate religion, because it is not a religion.) It does not matter if the Afghan government has an office or the Taliban has an office. Tell me exactly how this will help the interests of the United States.

Our problems with terrorists are solved in one way only; by killing every last one of them. I remember 9/11 and I AM STILL PISSED.

32 posted on 01/11/2013 8:11:35 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: Olog-hai

Only if its purpose is to corral them in a known location for Ms. Daisy Cutter to visit.


33 posted on 01/11/2013 8:13:51 PM PST by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: Olog-hai

We need to just bomb the crap out of them, no more nation building. You can’t make savages into civilized people.


34 posted on 01/11/2013 8:18:18 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Olog-hai

Great idea. They should have tried that with Japan and Germany in the closing days of WW2. That generation of leaders were much smarter than the current ones, so it would have stood a better chance of success.


35 posted on 01/11/2013 8:42:02 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Olog-hai
At the House hearings on Benghazi last year Eric Nordstrom, former regional security officer for the U.S. mission in Libya, said the administration's refusal to provide adequate security resources for Benghazi caused him to think he was dealing with the “Taliban.”

“I said, ‘Jim, you know what makes it most frustrating about this assignment? It's not the hardships. It's not the gunfire. It's not the threats. It's dealing and fighting against the people, programs, and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me,” Nordstrom said. “’For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building.”

He was right. The Taliban have been in the White House for four years.

36 posted on 01/11/2013 8:44:16 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Olog-hai

Yep, I still hear the echoes from some here that Romney was as bad or worse than Obama. You idiots!


37 posted on 01/11/2013 8:46:54 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Olog-hai
People tried to inform others these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were absolute bull cheet as trillions were being spent on what was billed, "Compassionate" war, at the cost of thousands of dead Americans....Compassion for everyone but them.

I recall first hearing the term "compassionate war", thinking, what kind of bullcheet is this?

After spending multiple trillions, WTF did we win?

We didn't even win cheap gas for cripes sake.

38 posted on 01/11/2013 9:13:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Olog-hai

And this isn’t even a satire piece. And the Barry Bizarro World saga continues....


39 posted on 01/11/2013 10:32:47 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Olog-hai

This is satire, right?


40 posted on 01/11/2013 10:46:05 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: tet68

“What Bizzaro earth have I landed on?”

The same one we landed on at Tet. We beat their ass so THEY WON. Nothing changes. Only the places, faces, and names. And sometimes, not even that.


41 posted on 01/11/2013 10:55:58 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Olog-hai

Why isn’t the word “satire” in the keywords? Please tell me that’s an oversight. Oh nevermind, I know it isn’t, but couldn’t you just humor an old woman? Where are we going, and how did we get in this hand basket?


42 posted on 01/12/2013 12:40:59 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Olog-hai

I thought I heard Karzai say that the Taliban would establish an office in Doha, Qatar and that the Afghans would negotiate with them there. Did I hear wrong?


43 posted on 01/12/2013 1:08:27 AM PST by tinamina
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To: Venturer

Islamic extremists are part of the admnistration, up in the double digits.

This is all part of Obama’s master plan, don’t fight the terorists, talk to them.

It’s all part of the plan of The Man Behind The Curtain, Valerie Jarrett—Muslim Brotherhood bigshot.

She is Obama’s CLOSEST and most important “advisor.”

She is calling the shots, and Obama knows he has to obey.


44 posted on 01/12/2013 1:09:55 AM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Olog-hai

As Eric Nordstrom said at the Benghazi hearings...”The TALIBAN is IN the BUILDING”!! I think he meant the WHITE HOUSE and/or the STATE DEPT!!


45 posted on 01/12/2013 2:22:42 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Olog-hai
No US soldier should risk so much as a hangnail in Afghanistan. Obama haws long ago set us on a course to lose. We should be gone yesterday.
46 posted on 01/12/2013 2:55:47 AM PST by Truth29
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To: EEGator
Should we invade...? What about Mexico...

I said that when the plan was to invade Iraq.

47 posted on 01/12/2013 3:10:41 AM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: plain talk
3. Is any House Republican going to speak out against this craziness? Impeach the SOB!

Yawn. I'm so tired of this from the whining class here. What grounds for impeachment? To what end? The Senate would never vote to remove and, Heaven forbid they did! Do you want a President Biden?

I find this disturbing and wonder if it'll end up like WWI, "the war to end all wars" by setting the stage for future instability. I figured in twenty years' time we'd have some sense of W took the right path after 9/11. I may have been too optimistic on how quickly clarity would come.

48 posted on 01/12/2013 3:24:20 AM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: Olog-hai

Nice to see Karzai visiting the Taliban office in D.C. :/


49 posted on 01/12/2013 4:36:46 AM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Olog-hai

Don’t let the enemy write the agreement, Mr. President.


50 posted on 01/12/2013 4:45:46 AM PST by firebrand
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