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Where Does The Hatred Of Constitutionalism Come From?
alt-market.com ^ | 1/10/13

Posted on 01/11/2013 4:21:10 AM PST by listenhillary

The Constitution of the United States is an undeniably powerful document. So powerful in fact, that it took establishment elitists with aspirations of globalized governance over a century to diminish the American people’s connection to it. It’s been a long time coming, but in the new millennium, there is now indeed a subsection of the masses that not only have no relationship to our founding roots, they actually despise those of us who do!

There are a number of reasons for this dangerous development in our culture: A public school system that rarely if ever teaches children about the revolution, the founders, constitutional liberty, or the virtues of individualism in general. A mainstream media apparatus that has regurgitated endless anti-constitutional shlock for decades, attacking any person or group that presents a freedom oriented view. And a governmental structure that has become so corrupt, so openly criminal, that they ignore all aspects of constitutional law without regard, rarely feeling the need to explain themselves. As a people, we are surrounded daily by the low droning wash-talk of denigration and disdain for our principled foundations. The wretched ghosts of collectivism and tyranny mumble in our ears from birth to death. It’s truly a miracle that every man and woman in this nation has not succumbed to the mind numbing hypnotism…

However, our propaganda soaked environment is not the ONLY cause of our self destructive society; many people are themselves to blame. Severe character flaws and psychological imbalances have left some open to suggestion, manipulation, and fraud. Their hatred, though fueled in part by the socialization of the establishment, is still theirs to own.

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Good read
1 posted on 01/11/2013 4:21:16 AM PST by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

I think Dave Dougherty and I give a pretty good answer in our new book, “A Patriot’s History of the Modern World to 1945”: the answer is American Exceptionalism, which consists of Christian religion, common lae, private property with titles and deeds, and a free market. These are all contained in the Constitution, and in 1789 only one other country, Britain, had these elements-—but not written in a code or Constitution. But Britain has all but lost common law, mostly lost the Christian religion, and is losing its free market.


2 posted on 01/11/2013 4:33:24 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: listenhillary

The Constitution is about limits. It limits government and the government is where the left finds its natural home. People without morals or ethics hate limits.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 4:33:56 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: listenhillary

In our hearts, we’re control freaks. Just ask the DEA.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 4:34:29 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: listenhillary

I think Dave Dougherty and I give a pretty good answer in our new book, “A Patriot’s History of the Modern World to 1945”: the answer is American Exceptionalism, which consists of Christian religion, common lae, private property with titles and deeds, and a free market. These are all contained in the Constitution, and in 1789 only one other country, Britain, had these elements-—but not written in a code or Constitution. But Britain has all but lost common law, mostly lost the Christian religion, and is losing its free market.


5 posted on 01/11/2013 4:34:40 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: listenhillary
The Framing generation considered education of our young in the principles of republicanism to be of utmost importance.

A major criticism of the Constitution was the absence of a Bill of Rights. Aside from its obvious protections, Richard Henry Lee wrote of a BOR as sort of a text for continuing education in the foundations of our society.

The reason some societies held on to their God given rights like jealous lovers was because they were reminded of them often in schools, newspapers and public proclamations. In Great Britain, Magna Charta was read twice a year in public places, not that it would lose its validity without such confirmations, but to fix the contents of it in the minds of the people.

If neglected, we were sure to descend to the pitiful condition of man in mainland Europe, where they accepted their very existence to be at the whim of despots.

A republic cannot be maintained by a people ignorant of the traditions and ideas essential to their political happiness.

We are very close to accepting the slavish condition endured by most men throughout history.

6 posted on 01/11/2013 4:35:06 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: listenhillary

The Constitution is all about limiting the power and the size of government. Those in government are power junkies and hate anything that might limit their power.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 4:35:33 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: listenhillary

“Where Does The Hatred of Constitutionalism Come From?”

A reading of the Constitution of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA at this link should make clear their goals and methods and answer this question.

http://revcom.us/Constitution/constitution.html


8 posted on 01/11/2013 4:38:45 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: listenhillary
Ultimately it comes from satan.

LLS

9 posted on 01/11/2013 4:39:31 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: listenhillary
It is a good read and so are some of the comments that follow.

But, I have to agree with one of the comments. They correctly point out that the Constitution as such has indeed failed us or maybe more correctly ...we have failed the Constitution.

In reading the, “5,000 Year Leap,” one item stuck profoundly with me. The founders at the time of the writing and debate questioned if, We the People, were moral enough to have liberty.

A Constitution, as we see today, cannot function if the people are not moral enough to maintain their liberty. As we march into this very dark time in our country's history we must recognize we will not retain our liberty until we restore morality to the people.

10 posted on 01/11/2013 4:44:04 AM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: listenhillary

It comes from the Progressive movement that thought it was antiquated and obstructed their “new and improved Scientific” ideas of governing.
The more I learn about Woodrow Wilson, the more I despise the man.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 4:44:38 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: muir_redwoods
People without morals or ethics hate limits.

Nailed it exactly. They don't respect established authority, whether it comes from the Constitution or the Bible.

They also seem to disregard facts and reality.

12 posted on 01/11/2013 4:44:57 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: listenhillary
I haven't read it yet, and I promise I will ... after I comment.

In The Garden, Satan tempted Eve with a crucial tactic, still used today ...

"Yea, HATH God said .. ?" (emphasis mine)

It was common in my hippy days to "question authority" and there doesn't appear to be a reason to change that attitude, but Satan still uses it as a tactic to justify his hustle.

The Constitution declares all the basic rules for a decent and proper operation of government, and it is sufficient for men or morality and conscience to legislate and operate without guilt nor regret.

The enemy continues the same tactic of foisting on the unlearned, "Yea, HATH the Costitution said .. "


So the hatred of or for The Constitution is based in the hatred for the decency, morality and maturity of a people that is Bible based.

hatred for the Constitution is hatred for the Bible which is hatred for God which is Satanic.

Now, I'll go read the article.

13 posted on 01/11/2013 4:45:12 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: pgkdan

The founders also knew there was a God and man though made in the image of God has a fallen nature. For the past 50 years humanists and liberals have remove as much of God and the truth about man’s fallen condition from government and education. We now have several generations that think they are gods. These little gods think good intentions and spending billions can fix every problem. They think removing guns stop crime.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 4:52:03 AM PST by Rodm
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To: listenhillary

The hatred of constitutionalism comes from hearts darkened with that age old lawlessness that emanates from hearts not controlled by the Spirit of God.


15 posted on 01/11/2013 4:57:41 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: listenhillary

The Founders warned us that freedom required vigilance. Conservatives allowed leftists to take over schools and pack the classrooms with communists. Leftists infiltrated county boards and gave union leaches untenable contracts while raising property taxes through the roof. Conservatives refused to get involved and elect constitutional sheriffs into their counties who believed in the 2nd amendment.

Conservatives were busy remodeling kitchens, barbecuing burgers and chasing the dollar and forgot to secure liberty for themselves and their children. We’re in this mess because of overbearing self-interest and sloth.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 4:58:31 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: LibLieSlayer; All

The lawless will always oppose constraints of the law, whether written on tablets of stone or written on hearts of flesh...especially when written on the hearts of flesh(such as Judeo-Christian consensus) for this is the most direct opposition to the spirit of God that evil men and tyrants can ever muster!


17 posted on 01/11/2013 5:02:39 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: listenhillary

Where Does The Hatred Of Constitutionalism Come From?

With few exceptions, institutions of “higher education”.


18 posted on 01/11/2013 5:03:28 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: listenhillary


“There is scarce a king in a hundred who would not, if he could, follow the example of
Pharaoh — get first all the people’s money, then their lands, and then make them and
their children servants forever. It will be said that we do not propose to establish kings. I
know it. But there is a natural inclination in mankind to kingly government. It sometimes
relieves them from aristocratic domination. They had rather have one tyrant than 500. It
gives more the appearance of equality among citizens, and that they like. I am
apprehensive — therefore — perhaps too apprehensive — that the government of these
States may in future times end in a monarchy [not called a monarchy but an executive
with monarchial powers]. But this catastrophe, I think, may long be delayed, if in our
proposed system we do not sow the seeds of contention, faction and tumult, by making
our posts of honor places of profit. If we do, I fear that, though we employ at first a
number and not a single person, the number will in time be set aside, it will only nourish
the fetus of a king (as the honorable gentleman from Virginia very aptly expressed it),
and a king will the sooner be set over us.”

-- Benjamin Franklin


"Rebellion to Tyrants is obedience to God"

19 posted on 01/11/2013 5:08:28 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: listenhillary

I believe that the American Constitution was divinely conceived. Hence, the hatred from evil for it. The left has embraced satan and in doing so unwittingly is seeing “reason” for evil as doing “good”. We can see this not only in disrespect of the constitution but in disrespect for life, marriage, Christianity, etc. It is the ultimate battle between God and evil that we are witnessing unfold right now.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 5:10:25 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: ILS21R

Hatred of freedom comes from hatred of God.

God says he will make his own justice, in his own time and reward those who love him. The human heart is a stone and prone to jealousy which is hatred, anger, greed and lust. The reborn heart gives glory to God and thanksgiving, and can accept that what we have, we have from the hand of God. No need to worry about my neighbor has, because I have my Father’s love- and that is all I need.

A human heart, that doesn’t know the Spirit and character of God, can not live that way, and does not want to be reminded that anyone else can live that way- so they seek to destroy what God has made.

God is the author of freedom and free will and choice. They seek to take our choice away and free will away, so that we have to worship their god of jealousy.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 5:12:18 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Truth2012

>>Hatred of freedom comes from hatred of God.<<

I agree with this. But where does hatred of God come from? The home?


22 posted on 01/11/2013 5:17:07 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Diogenesis

Benjamin Franklin ... incredible foresight. Thanks for posting that one.

“They had rather have one tyrant than 500.” A future Congress?


23 posted on 01/11/2013 5:21:48 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: listenhillary

BTTT


24 posted on 01/11/2013 5:25:05 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: sergeantdave

Why the past tense? Conservatives are even now feathering their nests instead of rolling up their sleeves. And they’re still sending their kids to public schools. And they’re still paying their taxes, the life blood of the government they claim to loathe.


25 posted on 01/11/2013 5:38:51 AM PST by HomeAtLast
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To: ILS21R

Well, in Biblical text it tells us that some people are chosen by God, and woven together for his purpose, in their mother’s womb- and that these people existed from the foundation of the world. (Psalm 139:13)

These are God’s chosen children.

But remember God is love and has the spirit of adoption. He welcomes all. In our Father’s house there are no favorites- not even his chosen, are his favorites.

What that means is that anyone CAN be in the family of God and that person inherits the Kingdom and the promises of God, JUST the same as the chosen. (Romans 2:11) BUT they have to choose God first.

We have all been given a seed of faith. (Romans 4:16) That seed of faith grows by hearing the word of God. (Romans 3:22)

In America is is highly unlikely that someone has not heard the word of God, somewhere. When they hear the word of God, there is a still small voice that will tell them to move toward the light and find out more about God.

Some people will move toward God- and some just won’t.

It is the story of the sower, that might shed light on that. There are people who are going to rebel until the very end and then dwell in a very dark and uncomfortable place-because they would not let their ego down- and search for the light.

It starts, ultimately, with God’s design. In truth, there are some people who are nothing more than dust.. and there are people who are evil.

In the book of Job we learn that Satan exists and works under the authority of God.

Our trials in life, and how we handle evil people- are God’s great mercies for us.

Sometimes the answer to that question is that that it starts with God’s design, and these people exist for God to show us how to make the right choice and stay on the right path.

The children of God have been given authority, tools and skills of the Priests , to speak the word of God so powerfully that they can bring people to the feet of Jesus, so that they too can be saved.

That is why Jesus commands us to go out and do that- and change our world.

All of these bad things, could be a sign that the faithful children of God have not been doing their job. (Food for thought)


26 posted on 01/11/2013 5:43:08 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Jacquerie

Most “american” history now taught begins in 1861. It was as if this evil group of states decided to go on their own away from the rest and had to be put under the thumb of an imperial government.

When one mentions things like the “federalist papers” today to most high school grads, you get back the stare as if you were talking in code. These matters of the framing of the constitution are downplayed IMO because they begin with a wonderful precept: we are endowed by a Creator with certain rights which is in direct opposition to the current notion of the state being supreme.

Honor and ethics are also underlying concepts to the Constitution i.e. look at those which deal with the advice and consent arguments: it was felt that an hororable president would be ashamed to nominate a person of bad character. Today in DC, Diogenes would need a super tanker of oil to fuel his lamp while he looked for an honorable person.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 5:43:42 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: sergeantdave

Bulls-eye, Sarge. Dead-on.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 5:51:11 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: All
It’s not uncommon for illegals, hyphenates, non-citizens, border-crossers, visa violators, the minority community---- to believe that the Establishment (Republicans/conservatives/patriots) uses its power (and our laws) to slander and demean them, bc/ they threaten the "status quo".

Snide remarks about the “invisible and permanent powers-that-be” (Republicans) trying to "take down" minorities.....is a sentiment bandied about when the malingerers consider their loser status.

This malingering has fomented cadres of para-military Democrats bent on deconsreuction.

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PERVERSE CORRUPT THINKING IS REMINSCENT OF THE POST-CIVIL WAR ERA----Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders into the South ----were prominent in politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from the Red Shirts and White Liners -----white paramilitary organizations, then-described as "the military arm of the Democratic Party", working openly to violently overthrow Republican rule, using intimidation and assassination to turn Republicans out of office and suppress freedmen's (former slaves) voting.

The Republican sheriff of Yazoo, Mississippi, received a brief flurry of national attention when insurgent white Democrats took over the county government and forced him to flee. (WIKI)

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FREEPER ACTION MEMO In 1875, Hiram Revels, a Mississippi Republican--and the first African-American US Senator-- wrote to then-Pres Ulysses S. Grant denouncing Northern invaders into the post-Civil War south for manipulating the Black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds. (WIKI)

We need to get someone with integrity----like Cong Allen West (not reelected)----- to write letters to his colleagues, and to the media.

Cong West needs to do the following:

(1) decry the agitation and intimidation tactics being used by these groups,

(2) expose hatemongering used for personal gain,

(3) emphasize the illegalities WRT threatening members of the US Congress,

(4) precpitate investigations into fraud and intimidation upon our electoral/legislative system by these hate-mongering groups, and,

(5) determine the scope and dimension of subversion these activities are visiting on US ntl security.

29 posted on 01/11/2013 5:56:12 AM PST by Liz
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To: listenhillary

This hatred of constitutionalism comes from the uninformed or “low-information” voters who equate the Constitution with hard work. “We the People” are not looking for hard work but life on easy street in so many instances. The lawmakers have surely found easy street at the expense of “We the UNINFORMED People”.


30 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:57 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: sergeantdave

You make a most excellent summary.

Some of us were trying to keep our heads above water.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 5:59:48 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Kozak

Richard M. Nixon was a big admirer of Woodrow Wilson; Goldwater of HST. Not even our Republicans admire other Republicans, it seems, though Reagan did hang up a picture of Coolidge, which I presume GHWB removed.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 6:00:24 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: listenhillary
Vampires hate garlic. Werewolves silver...

Bureaucrats hate anything that limits their power.

33 posted on 01/11/2013 6:07:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Truth2012

“Some people will move toward God- and some just won’t.”

Just won’t or will be pulled from God. Depends on how you look at it.

Atheism was declared a religion by the U.S. Supreme Court. After the June 17, 1963 ruling the Wall Street Journal commented that atheism was now “the one belief to which the state’s power will extend its protection.”

Hence, God has been systematically removed from the classroom at every level.

And here we are.


34 posted on 01/11/2013 6:09:06 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Leftists hate the Constitution for the same reason they hate conservatives, libertarians, gun owners, home schoolers, etc. Because it represents a roadblock to their assuming complete control.

They seek to dominate completely.

In my view, the American public is being conditioned to see us as a convenient “enemy” which they can use to project all their internal grief and woe.

Get ready, folks. History is about to repeat itself.

35 posted on 01/11/2013 6:13:17 AM PST by skeeter
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To: ILS21R

We are all pulled from the Lord every hour of every day, some of us just choose to tell Satan to get behind us. :)

But yes- we have to know that we are more than conquerors.

Interesting what you say about Atheism. I did not know about that! But yes, I agree. Here we are and we all have to choose if we want to sacrifice our children in the fire, and if we want to let Satan pull us off our path.

It is all right there in the Bible, right? Sometimes I can not believe my good fortune to know God. :)


36 posted on 01/11/2013 6:14:11 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: listenhillary

At this point, the only purpose the Constitution serves is to act as a fig leaf for the statist usurpation of power.


37 posted on 01/11/2013 6:14:14 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DJ Taylor
From the "CONSTITUTION of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA "

If there is to be a revolution, there must be a revolutionary party

....snip....
But the ongoing revolutionary process which the party itself must unleash and lead actually holds the key to resolving this contradiction: through repeatedly waging struggle to stay on the revolutionary road (and bringing the masses into that struggle to the greatest degree possible), and constantly struggling to forge a living link between what it is doing at any given time and the final goal of communism. And only with the actual achievement of communism will the need for such a party—that is, the need for an institutionalized leading group in society—be transcended.
38 posted on 01/11/2013 6:23:54 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: central_va

>>We are all pulled from the Lord every hour of every day, some of us just choose to tell Satan to get behind us. :)<<

True. Easy for us that know God. A little less easy for a 5 - 10 year old. That’s were it all starts.


39 posted on 01/11/2013 6:25:19 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Truth2012

>>We are all pulled from the Lord every hour of every day, some of us just choose to tell Satan to get behind us. :)<<

True. Easy for us that know God. A little less easy for a 5 - 10 year old. That’s were it all starts.


40 posted on 01/11/2013 6:35:01 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: mdmathis6

Amen!!!

LLS


41 posted on 01/11/2013 6:37:17 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: listenhillary

Islam and its Muslim Brotherhood infiltration into American politics.
Nobody really wants to admit America has been invaded and we are all political prisoners.


42 posted on 01/11/2013 6:40:08 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Eye of Unk

I think the progressive and communist Americans had a 80 year head start on the Muslim Brotherhood.

Government, government schools and Colleges trained their army starting in the nineteen twenties at least. It was cool and cutting edge to love communism.


43 posted on 01/11/2013 6:49:56 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

The answer is in my tagline.


44 posted on 01/11/2013 6:51:31 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: pgkdan
Those in government are power junkies and hate anything that might limit their power.

Just a thought... term limited politicians wouldn't have time to become power junkies.

45 posted on 01/11/2013 7:01:28 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: HomeAtLast

Preach on brother. Add to that the “conservatives” who can’t stop their addiction to liberal media, fund Hollywood and thereby support every perverted cause they promote.


46 posted on 01/11/2013 7:05:06 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: pgkdan
The Constitution is all about limiting the power and the size of government. Those in government are power junkies and hate anything that might limit their power.

Zero has stated he dislikes the US Constitution because it is a set of "NEGATIVE" rights. You are spot on. One of our libtard SCOTUS Justices travels to foreign countries and tell audiences they should not look to copy the US Constitution if setting up a new government.
47 posted on 01/11/2013 7:07:39 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: listenhillary

Excellent, well thought-out presentation!

Some of those same points can be attributed to people who despise anyone who reads and loves the Bible. Come to think of it, the Constitution got quite a few of its revolutionary ideas from that very Book.

I came across a passage in Isaiah a few days ago, which delineates three attributes of Godly government...Judicial, Legislative, and Executive. (God is our Judge, Our Lawgiver, and Our King”.) I thought that was SO cool. I am fairly sure that Our Founding Fathers knew this verse, as the Bible was an important part of an education, and I don’t doubt it inspired them as they were working out a system of government for the New Nation.


48 posted on 01/11/2013 7:11:45 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: upchuck

Our founders I don’t think imagined lifetime career politicians. The two year term for house members should have resulted in incompetent, immoral and greedy representatives getting booted relatively quickly. (Now days we re-elect crack head mayors. Marion Barry in DC)

They underestimated the lengths the parties would go to remain in power. Stacking the deck for incumbents.

A step in the right direction would be removing all health care and pensions for elected leaders.


49 posted on 01/11/2013 7:12:30 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: HomeAtLast

Satan set his trap well - worship of mammon and gluttony - and many conservatives fell into it. Now his demons are poised to take away everything and leave us nothing.

People need to start walking that road to Damascus and pray that lightning strikes.


50 posted on 01/11/2013 7:14:39 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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