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United Way: No, we didnít know about Dec. 14 Sandy Hook shooting in advance
The Daily Caller ^ | 1/8/12 | David Martosko

Posted on 01/08/2013 9:36:27 PM PST by Nachum

The United Way of Western Connecticut said it rejects conspiracy theories claiming it knew about the Dec. 14 Newtown, Conn., school shooting three days in advance and leveraged that knowledge to raise money.

“It’s preposterous,” executive vice president Isabel Almeida told The Daily Caller Tuesday, dismissing what she called a “flawed” Google search result that suggests her organization issued a statement of condolence — and launched a support fund for the victims’ families — on Dec. 11.

That fund has raised more than $6 million, the group reported Jan. 4.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; hook; newtown; sandy; sandyhook; united; unitedway; way
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A "Flawed Google search result"

There has been a lot of that going around lately

1 posted on 01/08/2013 9:36:38 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

-Add this to the “Dead Pool” file...

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


2 posted on 01/08/2013 9:39:39 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

If I were going to send money to support the victim’s families, I sure as heck wouldn’t send it to the United Way.


3 posted on 01/08/2013 9:40:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I am wondering why at least one of the parents have set up a page for donations. It is tragic, but it isn’t like the elementary school girl was the breadwinner of the family, and her loss is now putting the family out of their house. It seems creepy to beg for money using your kid’s death like that.


4 posted on 01/08/2013 9:48:48 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Nachum

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy? How many people are foolish enough to trust Google?


5 posted on 01/08/2013 9:49:51 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Vince Ferrer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w

this is creepy


6 posted on 01/08/2013 9:51:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I agree. Liberals seem to think that money is the magic cure for everything.


7 posted on 01/08/2013 9:52:33 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy? How many people are foolish enough to trust Google?

Google and the liberal media have given Americans plenty of reason to be suspicious. That's why.

8 posted on 01/08/2013 9:55:03 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Fred Nerks

No parent who has just lost their child looks & acts like that. That was not a “brave front” or “composure” or “self control”. Unless this man is a sociopath, there is just no way.


9 posted on 01/08/2013 9:57:16 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Fred Nerks
Emily Parker Fund

That was his daughter

10 posted on 01/08/2013 9:57:22 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Nachum
Google and the liberal media have given Americans plenty of reason to be suspicious. That's why.

I'll ask again, "How many people are foolish enough to trust Google?"

11 posted on 01/08/2013 9:58:01 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Fred Nerks

Speaking of creepy, there’s more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khQJ9i8mqoE


12 posted on 01/08/2013 10:06:36 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
I'll ask again, "How many people are foolish enough to trust Google?"

Seems to be a whole lot. :(

13 posted on 01/08/2013 10:07:47 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Fred Nerks

Holy sh&t, I never saw that video before. Add that there were more than 5 cameras in the school and no video???


14 posted on 01/08/2013 10:08:19 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Me either.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 10:18:53 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nachum
Seems to be a whole lot. :(

Which proves, along with the re-election of Obama/Biden, that the majority of voting age US citizens are not very bright.

16 posted on 01/08/2013 10:31:44 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Nachum

17 posted on 01/08/2013 10:35:50 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Nachum

The reason I am suspicious of Newtown is because there has been no new information from the police in weeks now, there is no reason to withhold any since no one is being sought or going to trial.


18 posted on 01/08/2013 10:48:19 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Nachum
If you want to see this for yourself, do the following:

Go to Google.com and do a search on 'sandy hook school support fund'. Then, copy and paste the following character string TO THE VERY END OF THE GOOGLE WEB ADDRESS showing at the top of your browser : &as_qdr=y15

Still shows 'Dec. 11'!!!

19 posted on 01/08/2013 10:58:16 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Still shows 'Dec. 11'!!!

Why do you trust Google?

20 posted on 01/08/2013 11:04:58 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: KGeorge

The throes of shock, horror and depression will cause anyone to act in a variety of different ways. What is the appropriate label for someone who criticizes how someone else reacts when they could never know how they themselves would handle such atrocity? It’s called empathy...try it. Someday you may need it too.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 11:07:08 PM PST by Madhattan
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To: coloradan

That is weird.


22 posted on 01/08/2013 11:33:48 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Madhattan

Hello newbie.


23 posted on 01/08/2013 11:38:35 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Madhattan

Oh, I know exactly the state I would be in- & like most people, have been there for friends & family members who have lost loved ones to illness, accidents, & natural causes. I’ve been there a couple of times with people who were involved or witnessed fatality traffic accidents. Almost all of us witnessed the shock & disbelief experienced by victims & news personnel on September 11th.
I’ve never seen anyone, even in shock or pharmaceutically assisted- or very strong people, with that apparent demeanor. (I have also been a witness to persons injured in a similar shooting: 1979, Battle of Flowers Parade, San Antonio. The shooter was a man named Ira Atterberry (sp) & he was shooting from the parking lot of the bank where I worked.)
Turn off the sound & watch it again.

I’m not out on any limbs speculating about what happened with this shooting, but I stand by what I said.

I also was not the only person to comment on this video, so it is interesting that you addressed only me.


24 posted on 01/08/2013 11:55:57 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: KGeorge
it is has always been common for authentic Roma (gypsies) to beg others for money to bury their dead.

For them this would be normal behavior and in the good old days everyone would recognize it as what it is ~ a burial custom of a small but ancient ethnic group.

Billy Blythe, Bill Clinton's gypsy ancestor, died way back in the 1800s and his relatives begged for money to bury him.

25 posted on 01/09/2013 12:34:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: KGeorge

26 posted on 01/09/2013 12:38:02 AM PST by Theoria
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To: muawiyah

Did you mean this reply to be for me or someone asking about the appeals for financial help, muawiyah? Or is FR having a glitch? I was just questioning the father’s demeanor, but didn’t address the appeal. It’s so common nowadays, I guess I don’t think that much about it.

That’s interesting, though. About all I know about the Roma is their connection to flamenco dancing. And I have a beloved dog named Gypsy.

To Theoria- ;-) Well, this one’s just a given. I suspect Clinton can cry on command faster than any woman alive. We *know* he’s a sociopath. He’s much better at it than 0bama.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 12:59:53 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: Alaska Wolf
I'll ask again, "How many people are foolish enough to trust Google?"

Google just reflects what's out there.

28 posted on 01/09/2013 1:03:33 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: KGeorge

That video is extraordinarily weird. The guy’s behavior is beyond bizarre.

But extrapolating from it to show there aren’t really a bunch of dead kids in CT is even weirder.

Implementing such a conspiracy would require the active cooperation of probably hundreds of people in the community, including LEOs, parents, neighbors, etc.

I do not claim there aren’t people who would stage such a conspiracy to make a political point, just that there is no way it could be pulled off.


29 posted on 01/09/2013 1:19:51 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: KGeorge
To the point that the guy must be a sociopath ~ that's all it was.

This particular behavior is typical of that ethnic group. Does not mean they aren't sociopaths, just that they normally DO THAT!

It has something to do with superstitious beliefs about money of different kinds, that difference having to do with its origin ~ e.g. stolen money, earned money, interst paid on money on deposit, inherited money ~ etc. the only good money being that which is contributed (in this case, to yourself).

Way back in the good old days they used to worry about this incessantly ~ no one would take 'blood money', certainly not Christians ~ see this referred to several times in the New Testament. We have judas. We have the widow's mite. We have the money changers. And so on ~ those stories all reflect on money to one extent or the other depending on its origin or its use.

The Gypsies, coming from a Hindu background, simply added all that to their treasurehoue of superstitions to come up with the idea that to bury the dead you must have holy money!

30 posted on 01/09/2013 1:33:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: cynwoody
Google just reflects what's out there.

There is plenty of misinformation, disinformation, propaganda and bullshit out there. It takes time and patience to wade through it.

31 posted on 01/09/2013 1:44:18 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Sherman Logan

You said”
But extrapolating from it to show there aren’t really a bunch of dead kids in CT is even weirder.”

Well yeah, I agree. It’s a really strange leap. It was such a mess within a couple of days, I don’t see how anyone would be comfortable speculating about it. But it’s the internet & that seems to just be something that people on the internet do.

I was only addressing this Mr Parker’s behavior. I’m not getting mixed up in the speculation. Something’s fishy. I have no idea what.


32 posted on 01/09/2013 1:45:19 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: KGeorge

Sorry, didn’t mean to imply you were making that extrapolation.

Others have, however.


33 posted on 01/09/2013 1:56:32 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Nachum

Not just preposterous, but unworthy of a response.


34 posted on 01/09/2013 2:08:04 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: muawiyah

I see. Wow. I would have never connected it to the sociopath thing (& I really wasn’t suggesting he is, either. It was more hyperbole to express the oddness of his apparent detachment. Like “unless he’s an alien...”)

That’s fascinating. And complicated. The concept of blood money, I understand, & Judas. Wow. I never give money that much thought, although I do have a (just me, personally) thing about not writing off donations. (I’m afraid it is removes the spirit of it, I guess)

As I said, I just didn’t think much about the appeal for donations because it’s so commonplace. Or they’re very common where I live.


35 posted on 01/09/2013 2:11:16 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: Sherman Logan

So what’s the explanation? Does it take 3 days to search the entire internet (that was my first guess but it doesn’t appear to be true)


36 posted on 01/09/2013 2:13:53 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Sherman Logan

That’s okay. Lots of different aspects being discussed. It gets kinda wild trying to keep up, at least for me.


37 posted on 01/09/2013 2:13:53 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: coloradan; max americana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV3KYBS64R8

now for the medical examiner...


38 posted on 01/09/2013 2:16:47 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: coloradan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVQCJymXdw

DR H WAYNE CARVER


39 posted on 01/09/2013 2:27:20 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: scrabblehack

I don’t have an explanation. I do not even vaguely resemble a computer/internet expert.

I do know that the least likely explanation is a conspiracy involving hundreds or thousand of people. Such a conspiracy is unlikely, not because people aren’t wicked enough, but because three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Hundreds or thousands of people (including, for some obscure reason, the United Way?!), not so much.


40 posted on 01/09/2013 2:29:08 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Fred Nerks

first time I’ve seen these videos.
creeepy


41 posted on 01/09/2013 2:32:34 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: scrabblehack

The story doesn’t even make any sense.

Why would a conspirator post an appeal for funds days before the attack took place? Wouldn’t those it was appealing to wonder what attack they were referencing?


42 posted on 01/09/2013 2:35:41 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Madhattan

Tell that to someone who hasn’t burried a child. If that guy actually lost a child, he is some sort of psychopath.


43 posted on 01/09/2013 3:27:05 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: Sherman Logan
The media has posted election results on their web sites a few days before the election takes place. This usually happens because they are "testing their software". Oddly enough, the posted election results usually map pretty closely with the actual results. Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

I suppose United Way may have been "testing their software" on Dec 11. [shrug] It could happen to anyone.

44 posted on 01/09/2013 3:29:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m really curious what you think about this.

The group involved is the United Way of Western CT. IOW, a pretty small potatoes group, not some international group of mysterious “banksters.”

Do you seriously think this group and its no doubt less than highly paid and powerful employees were involved in planning and executing the mass murder of schoolchildren?

If not, what is your rationale for believing that those who were involved in the conspiracy would alert the UW of WCT in advance?


45 posted on 01/09/2013 3:35:31 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: ClearCase_guy
The media has posted election results on their web sites a few days before the election takes place. This usually happens because they are "testing their software". Oddly enough, the posted election results usually map pretty closely with the actual results. Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

Occam's Razor explanation: When the media posts these pre-election results, they tend to use the numbers provided by recent polls. Elections results, oddly enough, also tend to closely correspond to the polls.

46 posted on 01/09/2013 3:38:17 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Nachum
$6 million? That's over %200,000 per family......

I don't know about anyone else but I'd feel pretty darn embarrassed and disgusted if someone walked up to me and handed me a check for that amount if my child had been one of the victims.

But then again, I wouldn't be standing around on my front lawn giving interviews to the press .......or participating in a public candlelight vigil either.

There are some things where common decency should take precedence, not camera whoring.......

47 posted on 01/09/2013 3:43:09 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Sherman Logan

I used to make the same argument. Then global warming busted wide open. . Now the razor is “they are lying”.


48 posted on 01/09/2013 4:04:44 AM PST by nixonsnose (you never know how much pee splatters until you are standing at the urinal in flip flops.)
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To: coloradan

WOW! That is the little girl AFTER the shooting. Have you tried to debunk this?


49 posted on 01/09/2013 4:15:18 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: Sherman Logan

Clarification. I don’t think Google or anyone else knew in advance, but the first accounts were way different than the current line. We are not being told the truth and a lot of people are in on it ..


50 posted on 01/09/2013 4:15:47 AM PST by nixonsnose (you never know how much pee splatters until you are standing at the urinal in flip flops.)
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