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U.S. may remove all troops from Afghanistan after 2014
CNN ^ | January 8th, 2013 | Mike Mount

Posted on 01/08/2013 8:54:28 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

The Obama administration is considering the possibility of removing all U.S. troops in Afghanistan after the NATO combat mission officially finishes at the end of 2014, White House officials said Tuesday.

The comments by Ben Rhodes, the White House's deputy national security adviser, come as the Pentagon and White House mull over the number of troops that could be left in Afghanistan after 2014 to fight insurgents and train Afghan security forces.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai and President Obama are scheduled to meet on Friday in Washington.

Rhodes said the administration is considering a range of options, with one scenario having no U.S. troops there. The range, according to defense officials, had until recently been between 6,000 to 15,000 U.S. troops possibly remaining in the country, based on an assessment by the U.S. top commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen.

"We have an objective of making sure there's no safe haven for al Qaeda within Afghanistan and making sure that the Afghan government has a security force that is sufficient, again, to assure the stability of the Afghan government and the denial of that safe haven," Rhodes said.

"That's what causes us to look for different potential troop numbers or not having potential troops in the country," he continued.

Rhodes said there were no expectations on any deal on post-2014 troop levels during the Karzai visit, and he said it could be months before any decision was made.

The White House remains committed to ensuring Afghanistan does not return to its status as a safe haven for Al Qaeda, Rhodes said

(Excerpt) Read more at security.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bhogwot; exitstrategy; nato

1 posted on 01/08/2013 8:54:36 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

This seems to be good news. If the US military can’t defeat the terrorists in Afghanistan, how can they defeat gun owners here?


2 posted on 01/08/2013 8:58:12 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why wait? Exit that hellhole ASAP


3 posted on 01/08/2013 8:59:55 PM PST by plain talk
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To: MinorityRepublican

Good. Its not worth the lives of our soldiers and the treasure of our country.


4 posted on 01/08/2013 9:00:20 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: MinorityRepublican

Too much to hope for —I heard these reports are a simple PR smokescreen.

Heard from very credible sources Uncle Sugar will be soaking the acid-throwing heroin farmers for a good 30, 40 years.

Modest drawdown from the CURRENT LEVEL...? Yeah, maybe.

But anything WE here want? NNnnnnope...!!


5 posted on 01/08/2013 9:06:03 PM PST by gaijin
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To: MinorityRepublican

...”may” reduce...


6 posted on 01/08/2013 9:09:03 PM PST by capecodder
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To: plain talk
WINNER!!!
7 posted on 01/08/2013 9:32:39 PM PST by stylin19a (Obama - Fredo smart)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sure hope so! Any arguments about this is long past.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 9:33:09 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: MinorityRepublican

how about now.


9 posted on 01/08/2013 9:41:10 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why wait? Since “Americans” have decided not to go for the win, let’s get the heck out now!


10 posted on 01/08/2013 9:56:02 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: MinorityRepublican
As one defense official told CNN on Monday about the Afghan president, "It's Karzai; who knows what he will want on any given day."

The problem is Karzai, who is simply too drugged-up to lead the country.

11 posted on 01/08/2013 10:42:07 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Who Cares? I got my OBAMAPHONE!
12 posted on 01/08/2013 10:45:35 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The comments here are so discouraging.
I begged for help here back n 2008-09 to show my home front effort to discourage enemy soldiers.
Trying to come back on, but I keep reading I am not back long enough to send mail here.
Anyway, please if anyone is reading this who wants to help our soldiers on the ground by showing the enemy Americans never abandoned our soldiers, but instead were blocked from helping them win through home front efforts due to the campaigns for the 2006 elections, help me. I am an expert on the matter. No one will stand against those despicable campaigns. Everyone caved and assumed associating with efforts to help win the war meant more election defeats.
I cannot send private mail yet. But hopefully someone sees this article, and my comment, and wants to discourage enemy morale. I just need a little help to show what I have done trying to counter the effects of the 2005-06 campaigns. Someone please who reads this, who wants to discourage enemy soldiers, help those like me who have tried to use efforts like in World War II against the enemy. Enemy soldiers have fought with the highest morale possible since those sick campaigns. Please help me counter it, finally.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 11:07:29 PM PST by NotIdaho5
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wait. What? We’re still in Afghanistan??!! I guess it’s not in the news because none of our fine boys are dieing over there anymore. Bush sure killed a lot of our troops though - front page every day.

(Sarcasm - and not in a funny way. I wonder how much of the sheeple DO think that we aren’t fighting over there any more?)


14 posted on 01/08/2013 11:20:47 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why don’t we build them some more roads, schools, and bridges, while our roads, schools, and bridges are falling apart?


15 posted on 01/09/2013 12:50:44 AM PST by Veggie Todd (All politicians are liars, thieves, and whores!!!!)
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To: plain talk

Why wait? Exit that hellhole ASAP

My sentiment exactly.


16 posted on 01/09/2013 3:14:55 AM PST by MountainYankee
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yay!


17 posted on 01/09/2013 3:18:53 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: plain talk
Why wait? Exit that hellhole ASAP

The same could be said of just about any blue state here too.

Head to red states a.s.a.p. and let the blue state socialists reap what they sow.

18 posted on 01/09/2013 4:04:36 AM PST by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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To: NotIdaho5

Are you doing it through radio? Most Afghans can’t read and there is little electricity. The Taliban supporters do have cell phones though. Obamaphones?


19 posted on 01/09/2013 4:36:20 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: MinorityRepublican

GET THEM OUT NOW!!!

zer0bama does not back the military...wont let them protect themselves...zer0 had Osama bin Laden killed after Bush set the spies and intelligence into motion...then took full credit.

so...WE WON! Get the h3!! OUT! NOW!


20 posted on 01/09/2013 5:03:38 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Leave now and MOAB to Hell for miles around any place there where a terrorists shows his stupid face on any of our surveillance resources...oh, and be sure to make sure the Afghans know we will.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 5:39:23 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Banning guns over Adam Lanza would be like banning speech over Bill Maher.")
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To: MinorityRepublican
Gutless leftist policies strike again. So much for always being ready for war, as Washington admonished we should be, never mind actually fighting instead of being ordered not to criticize the Taliban blah blah blah.

So where are the generals that will fight for the USA instead of worrying about fawning before the weak leaders of this country?
If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it; if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not fight even at the ruler’s bidding.

— Sun Tzu, The Art Of War 10:23
The current POTUS is the same one that criticized the surge in Iraq back when a senator and had no reply when the success of same was thrown in his face. Agreeing with him over withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan is shaming the success of that surge, AFAIAC.
22 posted on 01/09/2013 5:39:35 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: MinorityRepublican

In retrospect, we should’ve helped — not hindered — the Soviets efforts to usurp that hellhole in the ‘80s. But who knew... we were convinced the mohammedans were the “good guys.”


23 posted on 01/09/2013 6:04:11 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: ScottinVA

Soviets=Soviets’


24 posted on 01/09/2013 6:04:50 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

why wait? Today looks good.

Tommorow is ok too.


25 posted on 01/09/2013 6:10:19 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Olog-hai
Gutless leftist policies strike again. So much for always being ready for war, as Washington admonished we should be, never mind actually fighting instead of being ordered not to criticize the Taliban blah blah blah.

Remember when we went in guns a-blazing back in 2001, with hopes of a resounding victory against the Taliban and al-Qaida? My, how things have changed in 11+ years...

26 posted on 01/09/2013 6:13:12 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: plain talk

Exactly. I have no confidence in the CiC so bring them home before he gets more of them hurt.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 6:15:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m sure Obama will pull out troops but continue sending Karzai Billions. Afghanistan will fall to the Taliban soon after and my guess is Barry will still send the Cash and military aid.


28 posted on 01/09/2013 6:18:53 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: ScottinVA
Yes, and then the liberalism kicked in, thanks to the GOP-e mentality that has existed for decades. Now we have to worry about stuff like enriched uranium in Syria on top of many other problems . . .
29 posted on 01/09/2013 6:20:24 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: MinorityRepublican
considering the possibility

IOW: Not

If he's serious, get them out this year.

30 posted on 01/09/2013 6:40:33 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

There is one solution for Afghanistan. Pull out the troops and civilians and let the Taliban flood into Kabul and Kandahar. Then nuke both cities.


31 posted on 01/09/2013 7:02:24 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: MinorityRepublican

About time!


32 posted on 01/09/2013 9:21:39 AM PST by Brightitude
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To: Vaquero

It’s high time we got out of the sandbox, especially since our ROEs are putting our troops in a no-win situation.

that being said, I’m highly suspicious of the O’bastard’s motive in needing to “get the troops home” right now.


33 posted on 01/09/2013 2:39:54 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Segovia
that being said, I’m highly suspicious of the O’basttard’s motive in needing to “get the troops home” right now.

So they can go door to door taking the peasants guns away.

34 posted on 01/09/2013 5:46:16 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The sooner the better!

What's the point? We overthrow blood thirsty savages, just to turn it over to blood thirsty savages?

Scorched and Salted Earth!!!!!

35 posted on 01/10/2013 6:09:39 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: plain talk

“Why wait? Exit that hellhole ASAP”

Megabump!!


36 posted on 01/10/2013 2:51:04 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke
A lot of people have spent years calling for a total war or a total withdraw. Only one of those choices is possibly, and even those who wanted to believe the other choice could happen have come to the realization it can't by this point.
37 posted on 01/10/2013 8:54:26 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: KantianBurke
A lot of people have spent years calling for a total war or a total withdraw. Only one of those choices is possibly, and even those who wanted to believe the other choice could happen have come to the realization it can't by this point.
38 posted on 01/10/2013 8:54:34 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: huldah1776

Yes radio. Not allowed on. People still fear triggering a replay of the campaigns for the 2006 elections. In World War II, if you had a way to help win the war by doing something in the home front, a way to discourage enemy soldiers, I assume you had a hundred places to take it and help get it implemented. Since 2006 there is literally nowhere to go in America for this. You are only allowed to comfort the soldiers and thank them. Those efforts don’t challenge the campaigns for the 2006 elections. They don’t say the war should have been fought. I can go to at least fifty places easily if I want to send the troops care packages. I can go nowhere to help them win.
But if I get to show what I did, I open the door for everyone like me. No one has opened that door for me since 2006. I assume I have to do it myself.
Meanwhile, enemy soldiers are ecstatic to take the battlefield, since they see zero efforts from the American home front to defeat them. I want them demoralized. I want American soldiers facing enemy soldiers who question why they are fighting, rather than certain they will soon win. I want enemy soldiers driven to desert. I am barred from trying to bring this about, all due to fear the 2006 elections might occur again and sweep in more candidates who oppose the war.


39 posted on 01/11/2013 4:49:04 AM PST by NotIdaho5
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To: bigdaddy45

YOu might recall Obama signed an agreement where they get 2 Billion of our treasure every year now in aid.

Both should be pulled.


40 posted on 01/11/2013 11:13:20 AM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"U.S. may remove all troops from Afghanistan after 2014"

They might be released in 2015?

It doesn't say during or in 2014 but after 2014.

41 posted on 01/11/2013 4:32:06 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: MinorityRepublican

Just like Obama closed Guantanamo in 2009.......oh wait....


42 posted on 01/11/2013 4:37:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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“The White House remains committed to ensuring Afghanistan does not return to its status as a safe haven for Al Qaeda, Rhodes said”

It’s going to return to that the minute our troops are gone, so what’s the difference whether it’s now or two years from now? Bring our troops home! Now!


43 posted on 01/11/2013 11:40:25 PM PST by CatDancer (Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty. 2 Cor.3:17)
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44 posted on 01/13/2013 5:23:45 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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