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Obama Issues Executive Order...(Title To Long)
Townhall.com ^ | December 30, 2012 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 12/30/2012 12:10:44 AM PST by Kaslin

Congress has done such a beautiful job handling the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling that president Obama felt it mandatory to issue an Executive Order Giving Biden, Congress Pay Raises

President Barack Obama issued an executive order to end the pay freeze on federal employees, in effect giving some federal workers a raise. One federal worker now to receive a pay increase is Vice President Joe Biden.

According to
disclosure forms, Biden made a cool $225,521 last year. After the pay increase, he'll now make $231,900 per year.

Members of Congress, from the House and Senate, also will receive a little bump, as their annual salary will go from $174,000 to 174,900. Leadership in Congress, including the speaker of the House, will likewise get an increase.

Here's the list of new wages,
as attached to President Obama's executive order

"A new executive order has been issued providing for a new pay schedule beginning 'on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning after March 27, 2013,'" reports FedSmith.com. "The pay raise will generally be about 1/2 of 1%."Congress Approval Rating is 18%

The latest Gallup poll taken December 19, 2012, shows Congress Approval Remains at 18% During Fiscal Cliff Debate

Eighteen percent of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, as leaders continue to work toward a solution to the looming fiscal cliff. That approval rating is unchanged from last month, but remains low from a historical perspective.



Republicans' approval of Congress fell slightly to 14% from 16% in November, while Democrats' approval increased slightly to 21% from 19%. The resulting seven-point partisan gap in approval of Congress is the largest measured since June 2011, with the exception of the 16-point gap prior to the election in October of this year.Any Raise is Too Much

I happen to think any raise is too much.

Perhaps Obama thinks 18% approval is a stunningly good achievement following the brilliant Congressional handling of fiscal cliff issues, the smooth handling of healthcare, and the always steady handing of the budget deficit and debt ceiling.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: biden; democrat; democrats; executiveorder; executiveorders; fiscalcliff; nationaldebt; obama; socialism
I fail to see the reason of the Senate's approval rating is higher then the House's with Harry Reid not having had a budget in over 1300 days
1 posted on 12/30/2012 12:10:50 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

He has to give them a raise to make up for the tax increases they will get because of their failure to do their jobs!


2 posted on 12/30/2012 12:41:52 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: All

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-orders-raise-biden-members-congress-federal-workers_692223.html

“Obama Orders Pay Raise for Biden, Members of Congress, Federal Workers”
12:50 PM, DEC 28, 2012
by DANIEL HALPER

SNIPPET: “President Barack Obama issued an executive order to end the pay freeze on federal employees, in effect giving some federal workers a raise. One federal worker now to receive a pay increase is Vice President Joe Biden.”


3 posted on 12/30/2012 12:42:24 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
This stinks of unconstitutionality. Since when do federal employees, and especially members of Congress, look to the President, the Big Cheese-Wannabee-for-Life, for an emolument or increment to their compensation?

Hell, no! Boehner and the GOP caucus ought to get busy at the jump, knocking down this power grab.

4 posted on 12/30/2012 12:59:28 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: boatbums; Kaslin
He has to give them a raise to make up for the tax increases they will get because of their failure to do their jobs!

He's baiting them, baiting them and training them to eat from his hand -- and patronizing them publicly.

Julius Caesar pulled crap like this all the time .... unconstitutionally showing off his liberalitas, offering his amicitia, which of course had a price tag ..... like Vito Corleone's.

"Plata o Plombo" is the way the Colombian subvertors put it. "Take our silver, or eat our lead."

5 posted on 12/30/2012 1:08:32 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Are you kidding? He gave Boehner a raise too


6 posted on 12/30/2012 1:17:24 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: lentulusgracchus

>> He’s baiting them

Hopefully they’re just playing along enjoying the spoils of a regime they know ultimately cannot survive.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 1:22:05 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Kaslin

It’s simple, most of the American people are uninformed.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 1:23:33 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Kaslin

Individually, small or in large groups...hammer your elected to follow the Constitution and STOP the SPENDING....Obama knows this country doesn’t want to give one more dime to Washington Bureaucrats i.e., the elected....they are not doing their jobs so he does it by EO. Government already pays higher salaries than the private sector....like the Drug Cartels paying kids etc. to work for them and make as much in a day more than they can in three months doing honest work. This is economic madness....plus Obama is cutting our Military back - HARD - but giving our senators, congressmen etc. higher pay...for what? For joining the Obama train....it’s called in some circles, PayBack and that is wrong!


9 posted on 12/30/2012 3:56:27 AM PST by yoe
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To: Kaslin

Via an EO? What the hell is that - can he do that? Which one of the Patriots appearing on the Sunday shows will call this out?
Sadly - I think we already know the answer - this is sad.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 4:53:43 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Kaslin
WTH???!!!

Don't give them a pay raise.
Stop their pay altogether until they do their freaking JOB!

If you don't come up with a budget that will cut the defecit, no pay for you!

11 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:17 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

Just heard on Fox and Friends that D.C. just passed Silicon Valley as the area with the highest income per capita.

I’d be disgusted, but I burned through my supply of disgust a long time ago.


12 posted on 12/30/2012 6:04:22 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Kaslin

[He gave Boehner a raise too]

There is a joke in there somewhere.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 6:10:20 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: Kaslin

If my boss had an opinion of me that equated to an 18% approval rating as congress has, it would be unlikely that I would have continued employment.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 6:27:46 AM PST by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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To: Kaslin

Vote buying?


15 posted on 12/30/2012 6:28:19 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Kaslin; Liz; AT7Saluki

16 posted on 12/30/2012 6:47:21 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Federal Employees Pay Comparability Act of 1990.


17 posted on 12/30/2012 6:57:48 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Do some digging amongst the following which may help or confuse you more regarding this entire process. The House passed this legislation back in Sept. 13, 2012 on a vote of 391 - 91 with 9 not voting. The Senate passed a concurring Joint Resolution on Sept 22, 2012 with a 62 - 30 vote.

Continuing Appropriations Resolution, 2013

The EO provides the schedules of increases amongst the government employees in varying departments.

There are multiple EOs from previous Presidents regarding this same subject at this link

18 posted on 12/30/2012 7:39:09 AM PST by deport
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To: Kaslin; Revolting cat!
According to disclosure forms, Biden made a cool $225,521 last year. After the pay increase, he'll now make $231,900 per year.

You mean to say that Joe Biden LIED when he repeatedly told audiences at campaign appearances that he was in the Middle Class?

A lying SOB like that has NO class.

19 posted on 12/30/2012 8:50:45 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: exnavy
It’s simple, most of the American people are uninformed.

Dumb and content.

20 posted on 12/30/2012 11:46:18 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Kaslin
Are you kidding? He gave Boehner a raise too

One of the stickier wickets in the Constitution is Congress voting itself raises, or "emoluments".

Obama is saying to all of them, "Hey, don't worry about the stupid Constitution ..... I will give you a raise. I am all the Constitution you'll ever need! Be my friend and be set for life!"

It's a bribe, amigo. He's bribing congressmen to go around the Constitution.

21 posted on 12/30/2012 1:09:48 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: deport
There are multiple EOs from previous Presidents regarding this same subject at this link

I don't care. It's pernicious,and it's folly, and if other Presidents -- I should say, actual Presidents -- thought they could raise Congress's pay by Executive Order, then I've got a news flash for you: It's unconstitutional as hell!

Presidents raise Congress's pay? HELL NO!!

22 posted on 12/30/2012 1:15:31 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

Well, if there’s no Constitutional consequence to not passing a budget in any year, much less 3-plus, I don’t think Senators should be paid if they refuse to do their jobs. Or... Harry Reid, being the Obstructor in Chief in the Senate, should be obligated to pay the Senators’ salaries.

What else will get their attention?


23 posted on 12/30/2012 1:34:55 PM PST by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: lentulusgracchus

3 USC § 104 - Salary of the Vice President
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/5303

&

5 USC § 5303 - Annual adjustments to pay schedules
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/5303

Good, bad or indifferent that’s the way it is.....


24 posted on 12/30/2012 1:41:02 PM PST by deport
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To: a fool in paradise

Didn’t you know that liberals lie?
It comes easy to them


25 posted on 12/30/2012 2:45:12 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: deport

Correction to previous post.... should be,

3 USC § 104 - Salary of the Vice President
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/104

and

2 USC § 358 - Recommendations of President with respect to pay
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/358


26 posted on 12/30/2012 3:59:33 PM PST by deport
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To: lentulusgracchus
Vito Corleone's.

"Plata o Plombo" is the way the Colombian subvertors put it. "Take our silver, or eat our lead."

Its an offer you can't refuse....

DC

27 posted on 12/30/2012 4:17:23 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: deport
Unconstitutional is ALWAYS bad .... just because someone codified an unconstitutional arrangement for the convenience of the Members, doesn't make it less so, or less pernicious.

Obama is exploiting that perniciousness now, to remind congressmen that they are eating out of his hand themselves -- how dare they deny succor to his supplicants, or as Barky likes to call it on the campaign trail, "GITTIN' the People some HE'P!!!"

Mark of a dictator. Caesar did it, Hitler did it. "Here - -here is something for you. Eat out of my hand. Be my client. Admit your limitations. Submit."

28 posted on 12/31/2012 10:34:59 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Do you know any of the details? Does this EO give them more or less than they would have gotten under the Continuing Appropriations Legislation passed in Sep 2012? I haven’t dug through all the details on this.

Constitutional is one thing and USC is another. So until it is taken into the judicial system for clarification it’s going to go on much as it has in the past through previous Presidents.


29 posted on 12/31/2012 1:26:09 PM PST by deport
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