Posted on 12/29/2012 8:51:23 AM PST by george76
Energy companies behind the oil boom on the Northern Plains are increasingly turning to an industrial-age workhorse - the locomotive - to move their crude to refineries across the U.S., as plans for new pipelines stall and existing lines can't keep up with demand.
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The environmental fears carry an ironic twist: Oil trains are gaining popularity in part because of a shortage of pipeline capacity - a problem that has been worsened by environmental opposition to such projects as TransCanada's stalled Keystone XL pipeline. That project would carry Bakken and Canadian crude to the Gulf of Mexico. Wayde Schafer, a North Dakota spokesman for the Sierra Club, described rail as "the greater of two evils" because trains pass through cities, over waterways and through wetlands that pipelines can be built to avoid.
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What if we crush a caterpiller shuts down gazillions of dollars in good paying jobs, but what if a train capsizes and polutes acres of land or polutes the Mississippi doesn't.
Trains are faster than pipelines? That is a new one for me. Once the pipeline is finished lets see who is faster.
Thanks for the reminder.
The real question is which transports more oil, more cheaply and safer. And of course, more importantly, whether the CEO promotes higher taxes at Obama's direction. < /sarc>
Typical of the crony corruption that’s SOP for the AKSARBEN Abomination of Nature crowd, Allegedly.
Canada Ping!
I see the point but who is dumb enough to believe it.
Interesting.
Let’s say George bush was in office and the Koch brothers owned Burlington Northern.
The media would be fighting with each other to get the scoop.
Can you use a pipeline 7 feet in diameter, 2 miles long, moves at 50MPH, and can go to any major refinery west of the Mississippi? That is what your average UP train can do. I work for the UP, and barring the oil companies being banned from building pipelines, we’re the second choice for moving crude. We despise buffett and his toy train set. Until we can get these pipelines built (which by the way, UP moves a lot of material and supplies to the oil patch), trains are the closest thing to a land based oil freighter.
Can you use a pipeline 7 feet in diameter, 2 miles long, moves at 50MPH, and can go to any major refinery west of the Mississippi? That is what your average UP train can do. I work for the UP, and barring the oil companies being banned from building pipelines, we’re the second choice for moving crude. We despise buffett and his toy train set. Until we can get these pipelines built (which by the way, UP moves a lot of material and supplies to the oil patch), trains are the closest thing to a land based oil freighter.
no doubt about it..especially when you want to get Bakken crude to, say, a refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas. You "freight train" the crude from the Dakotas to Albany, New York..you then pump it onto seagoing barges for a quick trip down the Hudson, so that you can then pump from the seagoing barge to a foreign flag tanker off of Rockaway. The foreign flag tanker probably takes three or four barges coming down from Albany to "fill it up"...then off to Corpus it goes.
This process is going on all day, every day, because of no pipeline.
Cheaper and faster?...riiiigggghhhht...
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&gs_mss=Dick%20Cheney%20Railoard
Yep.
If what John DeCamp(R) alleges about the perversion and homosexuality at the top the RailRoad pyramid is true, it's no surprise at all that Cheney has sired homosexual offspring - it's just normal bidness as usual in the royal RINOcracy.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=Franklin+coverup
http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=9
Pipelines are certainly far better for distribution.
I was waiting for someone to get it. Rand predicted this all the way back in 1957.
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