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Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’
rt ^ | 9/28 | rt

Posted on 12/28/2012 4:17:05 PM PST by RummyChick

Americans are living in an Orwellian state argue Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick, as they sit down with RT to discuss US foreign policy and the Obama administration’s disregard for the rule of law.

­Both argue that Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and that people have forgiven him a lot because of the “nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him.”

“He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them,” Stone told RT. “It is an Orwellian state. It might not be oppressive on the surface, but there is no place to hide. Some part of you is going to end up in the database somewhere.”

According to Kuznick, American citizens live in a fish tank where their government intercepts more than 1.7 billion messages a day. “That is email, telephone calls, other forms of communication.”

RT’s Abby Martin in the program Breaking the Set discusses the Showtime film series and book titled The Untold History of the United States co-authored by Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick.

­ "Obama was a great hope for change"

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1984; bho44; bigbrother; bigsis; obama; oliverstone; orwell; orwellian
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1 posted on 12/28/2012 4:17:17 PM PST by RummyChick
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That is what is sad. So we are going into the second administration that is living outside the law and does not respect the law and foundations of our system and he is a constitutional lawyer, you know. Without the law, it is the law of the jungle


2 posted on 12/28/2012 4:20:14 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: RummyChick

Hahahahaha. Oliver got what he wanted and now he’s
afraid. Be afraid, very afraid worthless socialist
dupe.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 4:22:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RummyChick

Looks like Mr. Stone is waking up to the real world—at last. Watch and see how he is taken down and put in his place for not following the party line.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 4:22:29 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: RummyChick

No problem with the government having access to all your computerized medical history though.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 4:23:12 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Hugin

And savvy computer folks.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 4:25:01 PM PST by Morris70
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To: RummyChick

Oliver Stone is probably terrified Obama is going to come take his wealth..Hey Oliver, you voted for the Socialist prick, this is what YOU wanted..you wanted Socialism, now you have it..enjoy


7 posted on 12/28/2012 4:27:47 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: RummyChick

I find this very amusing. I can imagine the shocked looks on their faces as they are placed against the wall having been hoisted by their own petard. Priceless!


8 posted on 12/28/2012 4:30:03 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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So a Leftist like Stone now sees the U.S. as a police state, etc.. Well people like him supported those that advocated these polices and now he is shocked that the country has become that which he helped make.
He and his Lefty, Ill-Informed Hollywood friends have given money for years to idiots that have wanted this and now their sort of waking up to the damage they helped make?
The Hypocrisy and Mendacity is dripping here!!!!!!!!!!!
9 posted on 12/28/2012 4:30:33 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It’s never THEM! It’s always the cigar smoking bankers that need money snatched. It’s only when they realize that THEY are the 1% that they move away from California and denounce it.


10 posted on 12/28/2012 4:36:53 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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I agree that it is an Orwellian state.

The book Animal Farm the pig Snowball would be the character to portray George Bush. Everything that went wrong was Snowball's fault. Obama would be one of the pigs. The hogs would be Sorros, bankers... It was a hoot to read. 1984 was fun also.

11 posted on 12/28/2012 4:39:37 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I hope he does and I will save Oliver a place in the rice paddies right next to me.


12 posted on 12/28/2012 4:43:19 PM PST by funfan
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To: autumnraine

Your right..when Obama and the Dems talk about taxing the “Rich” they mean rich Republicans..that is why you have these celebrities who all bent over backwards campaigning for Obama, they know their money won’t be touched..if these celebs had their money taken away from them they would never have voted for Obama


13 posted on 12/28/2012 4:52:17 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: RummyChick

Oliver Stone must be pretty schizophrenic. He was FOR liberalism and abolishing the rule of law before he was AGAINST it!! Sounds as though he has Kerryed!!

Must be those elitist Hollyweird drugs or something . . . .


14 posted on 12/28/2012 4:54:37 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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All thanks to commie d-bags like you, Stone.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 4:55:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: RummyChick

I smell a Leni Riefenstahl “Triumph of the Will” production in the making for Oliver Stone.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 5:02:50 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH
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To: RummyChick

Never too late. I hope Stone makes a movie about the Bastard.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 5:03:37 PM PST by gotribe
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To: tet68

“Hahahahaha. Oliver got what he wanted and now he’s
afraid. Be afraid, very afraid worthless socialist
dupe.”

Stone has worked toward this end his entire life and NOW he doesn’t like it. I think he may be afraid because he thinks he’ll be on the outside, just another subject and not one of the insider elites.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 5:04:31 PM PST by duffee (Newt Gingrich for Speaker)
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anyone watching his series “Oliver.Stones.Untold.History.Of.The.United.States” on the History Channel?

Stones view on our history...he blames virtually all bad on the US....you can download it here www.kickasstorrents.com

very interresting...his take on our history..BS, but interresting.


19 posted on 12/28/2012 5:19:09 PM PST by cd jones (I am HD/ADD - (hardly pay attention, but when I do...it's very very clear))
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To: RummyChick

Liberal socialists like Mr. Stone did not oppose Obama’s candidacy, he’d be calling Romney’s term “Orwellian”.

The Left wanted it both ways, to claim “I didn’t vote for him, the OTHER guy woulda been better”. Their guy won and they still aren’t happy. but they weren’t principled enough to list their grievances during the campaign. In 2008 and 2012, the GOP base agreed that the candidate at the top of the ticket fell short of the conservative ideal candidate, but there was much thought that he’d at least be better than the other guy.

Their complaints against Boosh hold true for Obama’s policies and moreso without the daily protests and television appearances. Hypocritical outrage. He isn’t taking America to hell in a handbasket fast enough for them.


20 posted on 12/28/2012 5:29:44 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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