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WSJ: Obama threatened Boehner that he’ll use Inauguration & SOTU speches to blame GOP
WSJ via The Washington Examiner ^ | 12/22/12 | Philip Klein

Posted on 12/22/2012 3:15:52 PM PST by chiller

President Obama has threatened House Speaker John Boehner that if no deal is struck on the “fiscal cliff,” he will use his Inaugural address and State of the Union speech next month to blame Republicans, according to the Wall Street Journal.

In the Journal’s behind the scenes account of how fiscal cliff talks between Obama and Boehner hit a wall, what comes across is that the president is emboldened by his reelection and eager to extract more concessions from Boehner than he was willing to accept during last summer’s debt limit talks.

This excerpt from the piece is revealing:

Mr. Obama repeatedly lost patience with the speaker as negotiations faltered. In an Oval Office meeting last week, he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn’t reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.

At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?”

“You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.”

The whole article is well worth the read (subscription is required).


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bewarethefff; boehner; bushtaxcuts; fiscalcliff; johnboehner; misshimyet; obama; obamacare; zerocare
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To: Kozak

Nope they should chant in unison YOU LIE until that disgusting troll takes his ball and goes home.


61 posted on 12/22/2012 4:25:54 PM PST by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: Orange1998
"...raises taxes and cutting spending (taxes)"

Assuming you meant cutting spending; that was the great debate wasn't it? I was tempted too at first, but only if spending cuts were stone cold and immediate. I soon came to realize that would never be the case. Taxes go up right now. Cuts are left up to future years and, congresses, and Presidents and never happen.

Baseline budgeting is the problem, which means cuts aren't cuts at all, but simply reductions in the rate of growth (an automatic 10% annually, iirc) The Penny plan would solve this also. Scrap baseline budgeting, and reduce everything by 1%.

62 posted on 12/22/2012 4:26:04 PM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Boehner should take the debate to the House floor while Obama is in Hawaii, and not take the bill to Obama until it is finished. Do all the debating and negotiating out in the open.


63 posted on 12/22/2012 4:28:23 PM PST by Eva
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To: chiller

“he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn’t reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.”

Let the Commie say whatever he wants. In a way it is the Republican’s fault. They agreed to this POS fiscal cliff deal last year. It does not matter what the GOP does they will still get blamed so why not just do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may.

If the US House of Representatives had simply brought the Bush tax cuts to the floor and voted to extend them for a year or better yet make them permanent and then adjourned and gone home the Dems would just have had to stew in their own juice during the holidays. Now if we go off the cliff Obama will immediately start calling for tax cuts for the middle class and strong arm the pubbies into going along with it and hiking taxes on the rich.

The one thing the Republicans never learn is just to argue for the conservative small govt point of view and vote accordingly.


64 posted on 12/22/2012 4:36:04 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: chiller

Boner is a jerk.

There wouldn’t even be a fiscal cliff if he hadn’t helped Obama and Reid set it up.


65 posted on 12/22/2012 4:36:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: chiller
Everything is always threats and REVENGE coming from this evil monster !!!!!


66 posted on 12/22/2012 4:38:31 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: Kozak

In unison. ;-)


67 posted on 12/22/2012 4:56:37 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: chiller
Yes only a politician can say it with a straight face. Raising taxes now and cut spending years in the future is accounting trick. If we want something (ie: man cave) and told our spouses that theory we would be in the dog house.
68 posted on 12/22/2012 4:59:11 PM PST by Orange1998 (DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: prisoner6
Yep,

I'd rather be damned for a ram than damned for a lamb.

Mr. Speaker, if your image is more important to you than the salvation of our nation then we don't want you either.

69 posted on 12/22/2012 5:01:55 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: Orange1998
Like the old saw goes:

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

Unless you are twelve or less years old, you have no business believing that the DemonRats will honor their end of the bargain.

I hate to tell you this - Santa Claus isn't real, either.

70 posted on 12/22/2012 5:10:14 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: chiller

This is hilarious! Day by Day comic strip on Boner!

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/


71 posted on 12/22/2012 5:19:44 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Kozak

I’d prefer they stay, stand up and boo


72 posted on 12/22/2012 5:29:40 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Aevery_Freeman
I hate to tell you this - Santa Claus isn't real, either.

Could have waited until after Christmas to spill the beans. Boner finds out he will start crying again.

73 posted on 12/22/2012 5:35:43 PM PST by Orange1998 (DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: chiller; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; ..
WSJ?DC Examiner :” In an Oval Office meeting last week, Obama told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn’t reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault. At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?” “You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free

Thats an even better excerpt of this article than the other post.
Compare the last part with the Godfather II, Michael Corleone’s answer to Senator Pat Geary:
You can have my answer now Senator, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing. Not even the fee for to the gaming license, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally

Obama goes in the fight with a tank, bomber and army and Republicans get lured in time and again with pea-shooter

74 posted on 12/22/2012 5:39:19 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: prisoner6

Yep. Maybe it’s time to throw decorum out the window and every time Barry tells one of his lies during a speech, the conservatives shout out in unison “you lie”!


75 posted on 12/22/2012 5:41:58 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Kozak

That’s exactly what they should do. They should get up and leave noisily. Let the last one out pull the power supply to the building. Don’t pay the electric bill either.


76 posted on 12/22/2012 5:44:56 PM PST by virgil
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To: chiller

“WSJ: Obama threatened Boehner that he’ll use Inauguration & SOTU speches to blame GOP”

Anyone with any gumption would have told Barry “Bite me, Commie” and walked out.

From Boehner it would just be another crying episode.

I am so sick of these losers, poseurs, and charlatans.


77 posted on 12/22/2012 5:55:53 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: berdie
Worried about reelection, Pubs? That may or not happen anyway.

You see it the same way I do. Going to be blamed, but God you might as well earn the blame and in the process try, just try, to save the Republic.
78 posted on 12/22/2012 5:58:24 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: sickoflibs

Obama is a fool.

the republicans have the nuclear option - it is the debt ceiling

without an increase, the DC gov’t will go to an instant balanced budget with all the adjustment on the spending side.


79 posted on 12/22/2012 5:58:49 PM PST by Reverend Wright (1990 Budget Agreement: learn from other's mistakes)
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To: Gene Eric

Republicans do not have to fear what B-HO tells the nation. Let him go for it. Every adult in this country knows B-HO is a liar. Even those who voted for him know he is a liar - they just think he lies to everyone but them. Lies from the mouth of B-HO are just more evil words from a servant of Satan.


80 posted on 12/22/2012 6:02:54 PM PST by abclily
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