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MP says Bloody Sunday murder inquiry is “misguided” (Northern Ireland)
BBC News ^ | 21 December 2012 | Last updated at 05:10 ET

Posted on 12/22/2012 3:41:35 AM PST by Olog-hai

A Conservative MP who served as a soldier in Northern Ireland has questioned the need for prosecutions in the Bloody Sunday killings.

On Thursday, it was revealed that a team of 15 detectives will head up a murder investigation into the 1972 shootings. They will be led by a senior investigating officer who will be based in Londonderry.

Patrick Mercer said he is “confused” by this latest development and does not know what prosecutions will achieve. …

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bloodysunday; goodfridayagreement; ira; northernireland
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To: OldNewYork

I’ll believe the facts, and the facts support absolutely nothing of what you claim. Except that I never said that the people who were killed were not innocent; in fact, I never said a word about the people who were killed, and I will hold fast to the matter of their having been used as human shields because that is what the facts point toward.

But by all means, keep quoting Wikipedia with its leftist slant (not that your new quote disavows leftism, mind you, but reinforces it). Madge Davison, assistant organizer for the NICRA (yes, as in community organizer), was a member of the Communist Youth League and the Youth Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, and later part of the Executive of the Communist Party of Ireland. Kinda makes the NICRA sound a lot like the ACLU, does it not?


21 posted on 12/22/2012 6:36:58 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’m limiting this to Bloody Sunday, because I don’t disagree with what else you’re saying about the IRA and leftism in Ireland. But you’ve ignored the facts, including in your own link, and you’re persisting in error and in offense, slurring innocent dead. Shame on you.

This is the same kind of guilt by association used against the tea partiers to this day, where a random kook that showed up at a rally is taken as the ‘real’ identity of the movement.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 6:43:57 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: Amberdawn
In case you want to know most of what needs to be known about the Northern Irish Civil Rights Association, take a look at the praise the Communist Party of Ireland lavishes upon Madge Davison, one of its biggest organizers and a former executive member of the CPI. Completely parallels the beginnings of the ACLU with communist “community organizers” and suchlike. The notion that the events that led to Bloody Sunday were utterly independent of the IRA is specious at best.

The NICRA’s current home page bespeaks a highly-leftist platform notwithstanding. Leopards do not change their spots.
23 posted on 12/22/2012 6:49:16 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: OldNewYork

I have ignored no facts. In fact, I’ve brought a number of facts up and you’ve ignored them, rather, such as the true origin(s) of the NICRA. And there is no shame in saying that the victims of Bloody Sunday were the victims of the IRA ultimately. What is shameful is ignoring the truth and comparing the NICRA with the Tea Party (they are more like the ACLU).


24 posted on 12/22/2012 6:52:56 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Granted, solving the problems of Ireland 40 years ago with a keyboard on an American site is difficult, as is arguing with someone who has chosen a name from a race of fantasy trolls. Those killed on Bloody Sunday were innocent victims of the British Army, and no other army. The British Prime Minister, ultimate commander of the British Army, has stated so. If we’re not starting with that fact, it makes little difference what else you’re bringing up, regardless of the size of the grain of truth in it or how relevant or irrelevant it is to Bloody Sunday.


25 posted on 12/22/2012 7:05:09 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

I see you’re still in with the whitewash. Leftist groups in the North are associated with the IRA; there is no dissociation from them. How many communists were involved with the Tea Party?

There are many things that the British Prime Minister has said. He has also described himself as a “liberal conservative” and is a big supporter of things like gay marriage and other leftist causes. No need to crack open this Pandora’s box, really.


26 posted on 12/22/2012 7:11:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“These are shocking conclusions to read and shocking words to have to say. But you do not defend the British Army by defending the indefensible.” - David Cameron

Go on trying to defend the indefensible, if you like. Fourteen innocent people were killed. I hope their families don’t read what you’re writing.


27 posted on 12/22/2012 7:18:45 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

What am I writing? That the IRA used them as human shields? You’re parroting the IRA’s position as is Cameron. Never mind mischaracterizing the NICRA while I expose the truth about them, a truth that a lot of their members may not know to this day.

By all means, compare the NICRA to the Tea Party again. How many Tea Party events broke laws? None. Can’t say the same about the NICRA and their communist leadership (Betty Sinclair of the Communist Party being their first chairperson). The IRA was almost crushed until useful-idiot “civil rights/civil liberties” front groups like them came along; then the IRA got a second wind. Back to the “one struggle” mural: the IRA are the same as Hamas.


28 posted on 12/22/2012 7:29:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: OldNewYork

Like I’ve pointed out, I don’t argue about your presently equating the IRA with Hamas. You are wrong about including Bloody Sunday, January 30th, 1972, in this. And it’s offensive, as has also already been brought to your attention.


29 posted on 12/22/2012 7:36:31 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

The Irish War by Tony Geraghty.


30 posted on 12/22/2012 8:30:43 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Thanks.


31 posted on 12/22/2012 8:36:56 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

I have never criticized the IRA (even in cases where it is probably merited); until people are in their shoes they should reserve judgment.

Brits out!


32 posted on 12/24/2012 5:36:35 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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