Skip to comments.Happy Clinton Impeachment Day 2012! Impeachment is Forever!
Posted on 12/19/2012 5:33:26 AM PST by kristinn
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Every form of communication has its pros and cons. However, it is a matter of historical fact that Free Republic not only helped get Clinton impeached but also managed to destroy the efforts of 60 Minutes to destroy George W. Bush. If that isn't positive proof of the power of “crowdsourcing,” I don't know what is.
Let me give an example of how I promote the effectiveness of Free Republic in places where it's not known.
In my ecclesiastical world, there are still significant numbers of important people who think internet discussions are wastes of time that accomplish very little and reach very few people. Those statements tend to come people in their fifties or sixties or older who are in two categories:
1) pastors of large churches who aren't very computer-literate, who still write in longhand or use secretaries for dictation, and who have staff members doing research for them rather than using the internet regularly, or
2) professors in colleges or seminaries with major reputations as well-known authors but who don't like the personal bitterness and lack of factual accuracy in lots of things posted online.
Despite their aversion to the internet, these people are generally solid conservatives both theologically and politically. When I hear people saying such things, I cite Free Republic and several other conservative and liberal websites as examples of how internet discussions make a major difference.
It's pretty hard to argue that Free Republic was not a key factor in the Clinton impeachment and exposing 60 Minutes’ effort based on forged documents to claim Bush had gone AWOL. That's serious impact, in my view.
Free Republic changed history twice on major issues. It's done so in many other lesser-known ways as well.
No means of communication is perfect, but let's be thankful the internet has made it possible for “little guys” to take on the big dogs.
our current potus must not be impeached.
That would lend credibility to him.
he must be found ineligible and arrested for fraud so all of his works can be flushed down the pipe where they belong.
the new potus must immediately fire and remove all czars, regulations, new departments, healthcare abominations, tax regulations among all of the other things I cannot remember right now.
If he is found ineligible would McCain be found the potus since he was first deprived?
Nope, Biden would move up
I'll bet he actually did utter that curse many times. FR really was a big thorn in his side and I credit it (and Jim Rob) with having more to do with his impeachment than any other single entity in the entire country, including Drudge.
Clinton — what a piece of work.
if he is ineligible the entire ticket is invalid so biden would go to.
Congress set the rules of successions...last done in 1947.
Those rules don’t address a ticket being ineligible, only the President (or VP or Speaker or President pro tem of the Senate, etc down the line)
If you have a source that says otherwise, please post it. I don’t mind being corrected.
WOW 14 years already, time flies when you’re having fun!
Impeachment may be “forever”, but it was rejected by what is now known a “low-information voters”. And there are more low-information voters now than there probably was back in 1998.
The rule passed in 1947 only applied to the circumstance where both the sitting president and the sitting vice president were disabled. Then the rules of succession were like this (abbreviated);
The Presidential Succession Law of 1947 addressed the simultaneous disability of both the president and vice president. Under this law, here are the offices and current office holders who would become president should both the president and vice president be disabled. Remember, to assume the presidency, a person must also meet all the legal requirements to serve as president.
1. Vice President of the United States
2. Speaker of the House of Representatives
3. President pro Tempore of the Senate
The secretaries of the president’s Cabinet now fill out the balance of the order of presidential succession:
4. Secretary of State
5. Secretary of the Treasury
6. Secretary of Defense
7. Attorney General
8. Secretary of the Interior
9. Secretary of Agriculture
The 20th amendment addressed the eligibility question thus and seems to cover the bases;
(section 1 and 2 skipped;
Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
So it looks like you are basically correct for the short term.
I notice it says ‘... or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;...’.
It does not say the vice president elect becomes president for the remainder of the term. I guess congress could decide Biden was eligible and should be moved up (the D congress would have for sure).
It gets even screwier when you think about the second term before discovery.
Who would the R congress choose?
I have not been able to find a rule on whether all on a ticket can be ineligible if the head of the ticket is found ineligible due to fraud or other high crime and /or misdemeanor.
It would be difficult to argue successfully that the VP side of the ticket had no knowledge of the fraud.
Therefore add conspiracy to the list of high crimes etc.
I’m scaring myself now ... that might turn out to be Pelosi ... brrrbrrr
I guess if they decided to ignore the past and deal with current then Boehner if he is eligible by the rules.
Nightmare if it rolled all the way down to attorney general ...
May it be! From your mouth to the ears of you know Who.
May it be! From your mouth to the ears of you know Who.
If my memory serves me right, after President Reagan, ALL Democrat Chief Execs. have been impeached except for Arrogant Communist, Benghazi-Coward B. Hussein Obama.