Posted on 12/15/2012 3:17:01 AM PST by IbJensen
yes him and kerosene billy.
yes him and kerosene billy.
Does The New American still think Eisenhower was a Commie?
He's doing the Confederates a courtesy by assuming that they did not actually want the war that they started. So much for doing favors to those who don't deserve them.
This twisted Goebellesque remark by the Illinois Butcher was typical BS from a hated President.
Hard to tell if you mean Joseph Goebbels or George Gobel in this sentence.
Either way, it's the same illiterate garbage as always.
Actually, any blood is on the hands of the southron slavrocracy that instigated, conspired, and perpetuated war on their own country. A pox upon their miserable memories.
I see the true leftist ancestral blood seeping out from the confed apologists this morning. What a shame. They attempt to rationalize and apologize away The Great Insurrection and cloak it is some twisted and tortured respect of the Constitution when in truth the south crapped on the constitution.
Twelve states allowed absentee voting by soldiers. Lincoln got 119,754 to McClellan's 34,291. This was despite Democratic Party measures to prevent soldiers from voting. (Amazing how things stay the same, isn't it?)
Lincoln won the popular vote by over 500k, so obviously the soldier vote didn't change that result, though it might have made the difference in some states.
In particular, would you like to present something vaguely resembling evidence that Union Army officers counted the absentee votes, or at any rate counted them all? Here is some evidence that sealed ballots were mailed back to the home state and counted by officials there.
http://www.co.washington.ny.us/PDF/His/ABSENTEE%20BALLOTS%20FOR%20SOLDIERS1864.pdf
What do you got, besides a whine?
Do you have any historical knowledge of how the losers in other great civil wars were treated?
In the English Civil Wars the leaders (and many of the followers) were proscribed, their property confiscated and they were often executed.
In the Spanish Civil War somewhere between 100,000 and 500,000 of the losing side were executed after the war was over.
In the Taiping Rebellion, which took place about the same time as our War, 20M to 30M people died, many of them civilians massacred by the Manchu after the end of the fighting.
After the WBTS, the number executed in revenge by the winners was somewhat smaller. Exactly one, in fact.
I was only quoting the professor who presented a lecture on the election of 1864 during a History course I took at George Mason University back in 1998. If you would like to discuss this subject with him, I can provide his name.
And, as for “What do you gots beside a whine,” I don’t exchange insults with those who hide behind anonymity on the internet.
A former Yankee, I’ve lived in the Southwest and the South for most of my life (I prefer the climate).
Everyone I hear down here who writes or speaks of the War calls it the “Civil War.” I am surprised that they don’t call it the “War Between the States,” “The War of Southern Independence,” or the “War of Northern Aggression.”
It could be that most of them are not very deep into American History.
Using Lincoln’s history as a lesson about Obama, we find Obama certainly could do unconstitutional and tyrannical acts just as Lincoln did. In fact, Obama consideres himself to be a modern day lincoln.
The moral high ground of these anti-Lincoln tropes is always undercut by the fact that the south had slaves.
Drives the Lost Cause nuts when you bring that up.”
So did the North.
Drives the yankee nuts when you bring that up.
It would be interesting to know how many South Vietnamese were killed by the Communists after their victory in 1975--again, a civil war from one perspective (the North's)--but there was an unspoken agreement after the fall of South Vietnam not to learn how many were killed by the Communists. Tito killed many of his opponents after winning what was both a civil war and a war against foreign occupation.
Charles II had a few of those most responsible for his father's beheading executed. Later, when Bacon's Rebellion was put down in Virginia, he was upset at the governor of Virginia for killing more people in punishment for that than he had killed for killing his father.
must really suck though, that not one northern senator went to the floor to defend slavery...like the Southern states senators did
yep
lost causers, still trying to justify racism, shooting innocent men at Ft Sumter with no cause...
yep.
Lincoln is the greatest president this country ever had. Southerners got what they deserved for their defense of slavery and their attempt to destroy our country. If any thing they got off easy.
Drives the Lost Cause nuts when you bring that up.
So did the North.
Who ended it?
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