Posted on 12/10/2012 3:32:21 AM PST by Kaslin
To me it’s an indication that after waves of immigration (legal and otherwise)the US has become enough like Mexico to make the trip north not worth much.
Your reply is straight from the pages of my most favorite book....1984. Thanks
I own a small business in an Hispanic neighborhood in Santa Ana, Ca. Starting in 2008 the population of people on the streets bacame noticably smaller. There were still young mothers with baby strollers, but a lot less. The number of day laborers in front of Home Depot dropped from, in my estimation, 150 to about 50. In about 2010 I asked the manager of the 7-11 how much business had contracted since the peak. Answer, 25% contraction. Ditto for a neighborhood market/liquor store where I was told the drop was 25%-40%. The population of Santa Ana dropped from a high of 347,000 to 326,000 in the 2010 census. It is probably less today. Anecdotal information about some of the people who have gone back to Mexico indicates that they are finding jobs there and won’t be back. I believe that Barone’s report is correct as far as what is happening now. The book is still open on whether the northward migration will ever resume.
HERE'S HOW THE SAP-HAPPY CRIMINAL LIBERAL MIND WORKS HObama sued lenders to force them to give out toxic loans, and now, as President, he is suing them for complying, and actually lending the money.
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FYI---under the new HObam'ed "non-existent mtge standards," lenders could no longer turn down a loan from someone who received welfare, unemployment compensation, child support as their "primary income." One couple receiving only SSI---applied for a mtge w/ a fraudulent app prepared by a greedy latino realty agent.
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REFERENCE Clinton appointee Andrew Cuomo's Social Engineering as HUD Chief Contributed to Subprime Crisis / originally published on Examiner.com
New Yorkers voted Andrew Cuomo as governor---but Cuomo's gargantuan political ambitions know no bounds.
As Americans continue to struggle with the loss of their homes, savings and retirement resources, thieving/opportunistic politicans that were complicit in deregulating govt sponsored enterprises (GSEs) in the secondary market----namely Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac---that caused the subprime loan bomb to detonate---are still jockeying for power.
BACKSTORY In 1993 President Bill Clinton appointed Andrew Cuomo to the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) as Assistant Secretary.In 1997 Cuomo took over as HUD chief replacing Clinton appointee Henry Cisneros. Latino Cisneros tenure championed Clinton's goal of social engineering via the housing market forcing lenders to issue loans to those that would not financially qualify for standard-laden lending.
Cisneros left office in a scandal involving lying to the FBI over payouts to a mistress, Cisneros subsequently pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and though never sent to prison received a pardon from Bill Clinton in 2001.
Andrew Cuomo took the HUD reins and not only furthered Cisneros and Clinton's policies but greatly expanded them.
Henry Cisneros moved the GSEs toward a requirement that 42 percent of their mortgages serve low and moderate income families. Andrew Cuomo raised that number to 50 percent and dramatically hiked GSE mandates to buy mortgages for the "very- low-income."
These bad loans were purchased and sold throughout the secondary market and the pyramid grew and the bottom collapsed resulting in the subprime crisis we are still reeling from today.c
In 2008, the Village Voice published a compelling report detailing Andrew Cuomo's policy decisions "that gave birth to the country's current crisis."
The report touched on how Cuomo's 187-page rules "opened the door to abuse." The rules explicitly rejected the idea of imposing any new reporting requirements on the GSEs. In other words, HUD wanted Fannie and Freddie to buy risky loans, but the department didn't want to hear just how risky they were.
Many New York voters are failing to see the actual harm to the minority community directly caused by Cuomo's policies...matter.
Cuomo's top HUD aide said, "We believe that there are a lot of loans to black Americans that could be safely purchased by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac if these companies were more flexible."
Andrew Cuomo doubled down and had this to say about his HUD standards, "GSE presence in the subprime market could be of significant benefit to lower-income families, minorities, and families living in underserved areas."
How's that working out for the minority community, where foreclosures and unemployment rates have hit the hardest as a result of such failed policies and blatant social engineering? ///2012 Obama talks a lot about the economy, but says only things that make him look good. The whoppers keep on coming-—now seeking reelection he says taxpayers got back every dime used for TARP to rescue the financial system, and also passed a “historic law” to end taxpayer-funded Wall Street bailouts for good.He keeps forgetting to say US taxpayers are still owed big bucks for the billion dollar bailout of the financial industry. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac together owe taxpayers over $140 billion.
The author answered his own question with a statement.
Statements do not end with a question mark
True. Statements end with a period.
Statements do not end with a question mark
Anyone even asking the question has to be absolutely brainwashed or naive beyond repair.
True, it’s a question but a statement when determining the “real world” intelligence of the individual asking it.
Obama’s immigration reform. As soon as he gets our economy on a level with that of Zimbabwe, Mexicans will go home to Mexico in droves. Looks like some Americans have already taken their money and gone there to avoid the obvious decline here.
And, most of the Mexicans that were going to come are already here.
America is closed for business. Sad commentary!
It also pays better to do nothing but wait for a government check on the north side of the border than the south side, at least until TSHTF.
We’re full! Close the door.
seems I read an FR article that Mexican unemployment rates are around 5% - or essentially there is no unemployment problem south of the border. True??
Only if all Mexicans who are unsklled with no job prospects in Mexico have already moved to the USA.
Illegal entries into the US won’t end as long as wages are several times higher in the US, regardless of comparative unemployment stats and economic growth. All these articles about how the problem is over just seem like attempts to justify amnesty for the millions of illegals already in the US.
And now more conservative commentators are joining in the effort.
Just anecdotal here, but there has been a VERY noticeable reduction in the amount of ‘Mexicans’ around here where I live, compared to 2007/08. The ones that are left here are likely members of the FSA, as they no longer have to work ‘official’ jobs, and have the .gov handouts rolling in.
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I teach in inner-city Los Angeles and it does indeed look like the Hispanic population is receding. In 2004, our schools were on year-round shift schedules because we had so many kids (95% Latino) that we couldn’t accommodate them all. Then the numbers started dropping. We were able to go to traditional school schedule. Then we started seeing newly opened schools close again. It became really noticeable around 2009.
Since when is lack of employment being cited when illegals will become legal in 2013 and live quite well when they band together in communal lodgings, pooling their government welfare checks and enjoying health care benefits, to boot. They don't have to work at all.
All this, of course, will be enjoyed by the newly-legal thanks to the concern and generosity of Obama and his magical "stash".
Illegals will still come here, despite no jobs....who needs jobs as long as there's well fare?
Leni
Things not said:
1) Mexico has reached the economic-demographic plateau, and its birthrate has plummeted to about 2.3 to 2.5. Thus, in short order, there will not be enough “excess population” to sustain mass emigration, outside of a major war or natural disaster.
2) Much of the huge migration wave was caused by Mexican President Vincente Fox, who persuaded the government to implement the “Plan Puebla Panama”, turning southern Mexico into a gigantic sea/rail/air transportation hub. W. Bush was a big supporter of this as well.
This first part of the PPP was to *depopulate* much of southern Mexico, sending the people who live there North, hopefully to the US. But having accomplished that goal, there are no more teeming masses to send North in a batch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Puebla_Panama
3) Mexicans tend to believe what they are told about coming North. If they are told crossing is easy, and jobs are available, they will come. But if they are told times are hard, the border is fierce, the drug war is violent, etc., most will take a pass and not try.
No migration lasts forever. It can’t.
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