Mexican Migration May Be Over

Townhall.com ^ | December 10, 2012 | Michael Barone

[dirtboy]

I think it was as much the arrogance of the Romney campaign as it was any vote theft. One only has to look at how the Romney camp excluded conservatives, ran the most idiotic GOTV campaign in modern history (ORCA) and failed to have any kind of significant swing state voter drive to see they didn’t understand the fight they were in. They thought they just had to sit back and wait for Obama to lose, instead of playing to win.

[Sherman Logan]

Thanks for posting something resembling evidence.

Too many on this thread and elsewhere on FR think such questions should not even be asked.

Is net Mexico/US migration down or even reversing? I have no idea. But improving economy in Mexico and lousy one here has got to reduce the “pressure” leading to migration.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Are these numbers “unexpected”?

[listenhillary]

You mean we can’t burn the witch?

Crud. I brought my new torch.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Mexico is running at about a 6% annual growth rate.
Even with cooked, phony Obama numbers we are struggling to scrape 2%. Were it not for the threat of horrendous violence from drug gangs this might have stopped the flow altogether.

[skeeter]

What I've found is that over the years this country has been peopled in large part by surges of migration that have typically lasted just one or two generations.

The US has never advertised for new social welfare customers in a foreign country before, as I believe the government selling food stamps in Mexico now.

What we have found out recently is some immigrants immigrate to work, while others immigrate for freebies. Surprise surprise. Those that came to work have returned south of the border.

I have no doubt the surge will continue as soon as the economy improves, if it improves.

[bgill]

Duuuh, the harvest season has ended so those have gone back home. All the others who want to be here are already here.

[woodbutcher1963]

NAFTA is finally having the effect it was supposed to have. We sell pine boards to several companies that have manufacturing plants in Mexico. A lot of furniture, kitchen cabinet doors are now made in Mexico. It is cheaper to sell the raw material to there if the finished product(kitchen cabinets) are being shipped back into the U.S. than it would to ship it to China and then back here.

I would think this would also be the case with many other manufactured goods that are then sold in the US and Canada.
Go into any Home Depot or Lowes. Pick up a bathroom faucet. Most of the cheaper models are made in China. However, many of the better quality are now made in Mexico.

[Cronos]

I believe it has ended -- for the reason that Mexico is doing very well economically these days -- growing at 5% GDP growth per annum for the past few years, beating Brazil for the past two

Also, wage hikes in China mean that the cost of labor in Mexico is now just slightly higher than China and there is a much lower transportation cost, so many factories from China are relocating there.

It seems very likely for Mexican immigration to stop

[Cronos]

I have no doubt the surge will continue as soon as the economy improves, if it improves.

I wonder -- Obama is going to drive our economy into the ground. At the same time Mexico's is rising.

Even if we start to recover after 4 years, Mexico will not be that far behind the US in terms of quality of living and considering that Obama wants to reduce our quality of living, they may actually be close to us.

people won't migrate north then...

[dennisw]

Barone is dead wrong here. All you have to do is look at the number of Mexican border apprehensions. It still same as the last few years

The number of illegals here is much larger than the 12 million commonly mentioned and it is growing all the time. Plus we get Hispanic illegal aliens who come here on a tourist visa and never leave. Colombians for example

[Road Glide]

“I just cringe when I read reports like the one posted.”

...Particularly coming from Mr. Barone, who embarrassed himself and discredited his reputation with his predictions for the election last November.

Barone is overlooking other things very important:
- The numbers of illegals “reported to be here” is probably far lower than the number that are actually here.
- The “chain migration” that will occur when illegals already in this country are amnestied.
- The reality that all children born to illegals (even those who may have been here but have now gone home) are American citizens by birthright.

The “big migration” may be over (I don’t believe that) or at least significantly slowing down (more believable), but the damage has been done.

Indeed, the “damages” we are seeing now from this disaster are relatively small, compared to the long-term damage the United States will experience due to our leaders’ refusal to recognize the danger and secure the border for the last thirty years....

[cradle of freedom]

I believe that Michael Barone is an illegal immigration apologist so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. It could be that the cheap labor promoters are trying to keep us from being scared of illegals so that they can pass another amnesty.