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To: allendale

I own a small business in an Hispanic neighborhood in Santa Ana, Ca. Starting in 2008 the population of people on the streets bacame noticably smaller. There were still young mothers with baby strollers, but a lot less. The number of day laborers in front of Home Depot dropped from, in my estimation, 150 to about 50. In about 2010 I asked the manager of the 7-11 how much business had contracted since the peak. Answer, 25% contraction. Ditto for a neighborhood market/liquor store where I was told the drop was 25%-40%. The population of Santa Ana dropped from a high of 347,000 to 326,000 in the 2010 census. It is probably less today. Anecdotal information about some of the people who have gone back to Mexico indicates that they are finding jobs there and won’t be back. I believe that Barone’s report is correct as far as what is happening now. The book is still open on whether the northward migration will ever resume.


23 posted on 12/10/2012 4:57:05 AM PST by Sam Clements
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To: Sam Clements

Thanks for posting something resembling evidence.

Too many on this thread and elsewhere on FR think such questions should not even be asked.

Is net Mexico/US migration down or even reversing? I have no idea. But improving economy in Mexico and lousy one here has got to reduce the “pressure” leading to migration.


42 posted on 12/10/2012 6:13:38 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sam Clements

You mean we can’t burn the witch?

Crud. I brought my new torch.


44 posted on 12/10/2012 6:26:13 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Sam Clements

NAFTA is finally having the effect it was supposed to have. We sell pine boards to several companies that have manufacturing plants in Mexico. A lot of furniture, kitchen cabinet doors are now made in Mexico. It is cheaper to sell the raw material to there if the finished product(kitchen cabinets) are being shipped back into the U.S. than it would to ship it to China and then back here.

I would think this would also be the case with many other manufactured goods that are then sold in the US and Canada.
Go into any Home Depot or Lowes. Pick up a bathroom faucet. Most of the cheaper models are made in China. However, many of the better quality are now made in Mexico.


48 posted on 12/10/2012 6:58:11 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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