Posted on 12/06/2012 5:34:30 AM PST by Strategy
The USS Eisenhower, an American aircraft carrier that holds eight fighter bomber squadrons and 8,000 men, arrived at the Syrian coast yesterday in the midst of a heavy storm, indicating US preparation for a potential ground intervention.
While the Obama administration has not announced any sort of American-led military intervention in the war-torn country, the US is now ready to launch such action "within days" if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad decides to use chemical weapons against the opposition, the Times reports.
(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...
8,000 men on a carrier?
Really?
Typical crew of a Nimitz-class carrier. No reports of Marine amphibious landing ships, so no indications of a landing force, just air ops.
Consider the source: Russia Today (the propaganda arm of the Russian government).
Excuse me, but if Assad violates no borders, why is it our business ?? Yes, it will suck to be the Syrian Rebels, but it is NOT OUR FIGHT. . .
Bama gonna start another unauhorized congressional war in the middle east........hmmmmmmmmm
And, gee, December 21 is not far away. I’m starting to get a VERY bad feeling. . .
I can’t believe Assad would be dumb enough to give us a pretext to “intervene” (not that we have any reason to do so, but Obama is supporting the jihadis...excuse me, “freedom fighters”) but clearly we’re hoping he will.
I suspect there will be a chemical weapons attack, since we’re setting this up as an excuse, but it will probably be launched by jihadis who have managed to get their hands on something. I read in an earlier press report that some of the supposed army bombings of Islamist strongholds in Syria were actually attacks carried out by the “rebels” themselves on their own areas, particularly, as usual, schools or public buildings, blaming the Assad forces in order to stir up hysteria and build up support. Sound familiar?
Obama wants every country in the ME to fall to Islamists.
A few sources list the Nimitz class as having a ship’s complement of 3,200 plus a little over 2,600 for the embarked squadrons.
The Marines should be on board the ships of an amphibious squadron, usually and LHA or LHD plus several LSDs and LPDs.
Assad knows he’s a dead man.... So he is going to try to take as many as he can with him..
I say let’s stay out of this and let them kill eachother. If we enter this with forces, it will bite us in the as$ like always.
having served on board two carriers, the number 8,000 seems pretty exagerated.
Assad knows he’s a dead man.... So he is going to try to take as many as he can with him..
I say let’s stay out of this and let them kill eachother. If we enter this with forces, it will bite us in the as$ like always.
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YOu are so right here. This is not our issue.
I agree with your theory that Assad is being set up.
The recent reports in the news about chemical weapons in Assad’s control are merely laying the groundwork for a REBEL chemical weapons attack on the Syrian people, only to be blamed on Assad. How would we, the American public, know any differently? Who, in the colluding media, will report the truth? The chemical attack will precipitate the full involvement of the US military.
Obama wants Assad out NOW!
>>The recent reports in the news about chemical weapons in Assad’s control are merely laying the groundwork for a REBEL chemical weapons attack on the Syrian people, only to be blamed on Assad. How would we, the American public, know any differently? Who, in the colluding media, will report the truth? The chemical attack will precipitate the full involvement of the US military.<<
I love the way you think.
Exactly. If they attack Israel, the rules change... but if they're hosing down terrorists from the muslim brotherhood, al-Qaida and Ansar al-(fill-in-the-blank)... why again does that matter to us?
Unfortunately, we're having to look at foreign media sources, because the propaganda arm of the American government can't be trusted to report anything factually.
See, I told George Noory old Marvin the Mayan knew his stuff! KYAG!
Russia Today is an incompetent and worthless news source, regardless of what you think of the US news media. They have no subject matter knowledge of what they report on.
They couldn’t tell the difference between an unmanned surface vessel and an unmanned underwater vessel last week (in a RT story that Newsmax stupidly quoted.)
Pray for these soldiers.
I hear that a lot: “I can’t trust American media, so I rely on Russian media I cannot trust.” LOL
I am reminded of the story, I think it was on Johnny Carson maybe To Tell a Lie, years back about two brothers in the Navy who went home for Christmas and dicovered they were stationed on the same aircraft carrier.
I thought Obama tried to make Romney out as the war hungry monster while only he was serenely aware of the fatigue America had over endless and needless wars.
It’s starting to look like we should take a force and “storm” that mountain top in France that has been ruled off-limits on 21 Dec 12.
Well if it’s posted on the Internet it must be true! [/sarc]
I didn’t say I didn’t trust the Russian media.
“I love the way you think.”
I’m just catching on to the way this administration uses the media to misinform the public and form their narrative, or “truth.”
The next thing up for the administration is to nationalize the 401k’s. Have you noticed the recent attention in the media this topic has gotten, most recently from TIME? Simply paving the way for the government by running a story asking if it’s a good idea, since only the rich have 401ks, etc...
Ah... so THEY were the sources for those errant military aircraft pics shown on the screen at the DNC.
Agreed. It’s not our job. If they gas their own people, take it to the UN and let them write a very stern letter.
Unless, the purpose is to keep the two sides equal so that the war goes on for a decade or so. Maybe two.
For whatever reasons, Iran is supporting Syria and Saudi Arabia is supporting the Syrian rebels. Saudi Arabia. Iran. Libya. Oil. Soros. Obama. Hillary.
I'm not familiar with them per se, but I would probably rate them as truthful as the 0bama Regime's Chief Propaganda Minister Jay Carney, maybe more so. After all, another Russian publication, Pravda was about the only one to point out that US capitalism had been killed by socialism.
And maybe a few Marines, but as you pointed out no troops or soldiers.
It's understandable that the foreign press does not understand the terms. Sadly neither does the domestic press.
but it is NOT OUR FIGHT. . .
100% correct! But since when does reason and law mean anything to obama? Congress has no balls to stop him so he will continue to act as a dictator. Libya was not our fight either.
I refer you to my comment #24.
Not ONE American life should be given up for the Syrians.... NOT ONE SINGLE life!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russian propaganda that’s paving the way for the Russians to intervene on Assad’s side?
The only believable articles I’ve seen in a while came from CanadaFreePress. It reminds me of Radio Free Europe back during the Cold War, broadcasting the truth into socialist occupied Amerika.
I wonder if that’s the whole CVBG. It still seems high unless there’s a MEU involved.
Of course, it could just be a made up number from a lazy reporter . . .
LPDs?
I agree that we should stay out of it...except that I strongly suspect we (or at any rate, Obama and the gang) were behind the jihadi “rebels” in the first place. He has been toppling one country after another to the Islamists.
Many of these reports have come from rather vague sources. Mind you, I'm not saying Assad was a great guy, but he was more or less under control and while he ran a police state, people had more freedom under it than they will have under the Islamist police state that replaces it. The Egyptians are just realizing this...
This link below takes us to the USN official Ike link.
The Ike carries a compliment of 6,287 sailors including the air jocks and their crew.
There would probably be at least an additional few dozen civilians on board monitoring their products/services in use and helping to maintain them.
A similiar amount of tad naval personnel monitoring and learning.
For the Clancy fans/writers, there will be a half dozen Guys from the farm and that many from No Such Agency.
http://www.public.navy.mil/airfor/cvn69/Pages/FactsStats.aspx
Miscellaneous
Builder - Newport News Shipbuilding, Newport News, VA
Keel laid - Aug. 15, 1970
Launched - Oct. 11, 1975
Planned crew sized - 6,287 (includes Air Wing)
Number of anchors - 2
Weight of anchors - 60,000 lbs each
Anchor chain - 1,082 feet on each anchor (365 lbs per link)
Total anchor weight - 735,000 lbs each (includes chain)
Distillation plant capacity - 400,000 gallons
Number of light fixtures - approximately 29,000
It would be just like Obamugabe to put a huge number of our brave fighting men in harm’s way. After he gets them killed, he will have them replaced with his AmeriCorps thugs.
“Mind you, I’m not saying Assad was a great guy, but he was more or less under control and while he ran a police state, people had more freedom under it than they will have under the Islamist police state that replaces it. The Egyptians are just realizing this...”
I agree. I wonder if it’s truly the “people of Syria” who are trying to oust Assad, or outside factions such as the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda?
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