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Thousands Of US Troops Arrive Near Syrian Shore On USS Eisenhower
Russia Today ^ | December 6, 2012

Posted on 12/06/2012 5:34:30 AM PST by Strategy

The USS Eisenhower, an American aircraft carrier that holds eight fighter bomber squadrons and 8,000 men, arrived at the Syrian coast yesterday in the midst of a heavy storm, indicating US preparation for a potential ground intervention.

While the Obama administration has not announced any sort of American-led military intervention in the war-torn country, the US is now ready to launch such action "within days" if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad decides to use chemical weapons against the opposition, the Times reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabspring; bho44; bhomiddleeast; cvn69; eisenhower; islam; israel; middleeast; muslimworld; shipmovement; syria; usseisenhower; ustroops
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1 posted on 12/06/2012 5:34:45 AM PST by Strategy
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To: Strategy

8,000 men on a carrier?

Really?


2 posted on 12/06/2012 5:38:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: AppyPappy

Typical crew of a Nimitz-class carrier. No reports of Marine amphibious landing ships, so no indications of a landing force, just air ops.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 5:40:32 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: AppyPappy

Consider the source: Russia Today (the propaganda arm of the Russian government).


4 posted on 12/06/2012 5:41:16 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Strategy

Excuse me, but if Assad violates no borders, why is it our business ?? Yes, it will suck to be the Syrian Rebels, but it is NOT OUR FIGHT. . .


5 posted on 12/06/2012 5:43:07 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Strategy

Bama gonna start another unauhorized congressional war in the middle east........hmmmmmmmmm


6 posted on 12/06/2012 5:43:40 AM PST by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: Safetgiver

And, gee, December 21 is not far away. I’m starting to get a VERY bad feeling. . .


8 posted on 12/06/2012 5:50:20 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Strategy
Let's determine what our national interests are here, and there may be some, but I wouldn't sacrifice any US blood or money to save anyone in Syria.
9 posted on 12/06/2012 5:51:44 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Salgak; sniper63

I can’t believe Assad would be dumb enough to give us a pretext to “intervene” (not that we have any reason to do so, but Obama is supporting the jihadis...excuse me, “freedom fighters”) but clearly we’re hoping he will.

I suspect there will be a chemical weapons attack, since we’re setting this up as an excuse, but it will probably be launched by jihadis who have managed to get their hands on something. I read in an earlier press report that some of the supposed army bombings of Islamist strongholds in Syria were actually attacks carried out by the “rebels” themselves on their own areas, particularly, as usual, schools or public buildings, blaming the Assad forces in order to stir up hysteria and build up support. Sound familiar?

Obama wants every country in the ME to fall to Islamists.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 5:52:37 AM PST by livius
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To: rstrahan

A few sources list the Nimitz class as having a ship’s complement of 3,200 plus a little over 2,600 for the embarked squadrons.

The Marines should be on board the ships of an amphibious squadron, usually and LHA or LHD plus several LSDs and LPDs.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 5:53:07 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: livius

Assad knows he’s a dead man.... So he is going to try to take as many as he can with him..
I say let’s stay out of this and let them kill eachother. If we enter this with forces, it will bite us in the as$ like always.


12 posted on 12/06/2012 6:01:56 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: rstrahan

having served on board two carriers, the number 8,000 seems pretty exagerated.


13 posted on 12/06/2012 6:03:42 AM PST by brivette
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To: baddog 219

Assad knows he’s a dead man.... So he is going to try to take as many as he can with him..
I say let’s stay out of this and let them kill eachother. If we enter this with forces, it will bite us in the as$ like always.

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YOu are so right here. This is not our issue.


14 posted on 12/06/2012 6:03:42 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Russia Today quoting Debka.
Yeah, that's a good source for news...
15 posted on 12/06/2012 6:04:37 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: livius

I agree with your theory that Assad is being set up.

The recent reports in the news about chemical weapons in Assad’s control are merely laying the groundwork for a REBEL chemical weapons attack on the Syrian people, only to be blamed on Assad. How would we, the American public, know any differently? Who, in the colluding media, will report the truth? The chemical attack will precipitate the full involvement of the US military.

Obama wants Assad out NOW!


16 posted on 12/06/2012 6:05:38 AM PST by MNGal
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To: MNGal

>>The recent reports in the news about chemical weapons in Assad’s control are merely laying the groundwork for a REBEL chemical weapons attack on the Syrian people, only to be blamed on Assad. How would we, the American public, know any differently? Who, in the colluding media, will report the truth? The chemical attack will precipitate the full involvement of the US military.<<

I love the way you think.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 6:10:22 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: Salgak
Excuse me, but if Assad violates no borders, why is it our business ?? Yes, it will suck to be the Syrian Rebels, but it is NOT OUR FIGHT. . .

Exactly. If they attack Israel, the rules change... but if they're hosing down terrorists from the muslim brotherhood, al-Qaida and Ansar al-(fill-in-the-blank)... why again does that matter to us?

18 posted on 12/06/2012 6:10:29 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Consider the source: Russia Today (the propaganda arm of the Russian government).

Unfortunately, we're having to look at foreign media sources, because the propaganda arm of the American government can't be trusted to report anything factually.

19 posted on 12/06/2012 6:13:06 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Salgak

See, I told George Noory old Marvin the Mayan knew his stuff! KYAG!


20 posted on 12/06/2012 6:13:32 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: ScottinVA

Russia Today is an incompetent and worthless news source, regardless of what you think of the US news media. They have no subject matter knowledge of what they report on.

They couldn’t tell the difference between an unmanned surface vessel and an unmanned underwater vessel last week (in a RT story that Newsmax stupidly quoted.)


21 posted on 12/06/2012 6:15:53 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: sniper63

Pray for these soldiers.


22 posted on 12/06/2012 6:16:57 AM PST by Josephat
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To: Strategy
Thousands of troops? The personnel on aircraft carriers are usually sailors and pilots, not troops. The story makes it sound like thousands of ground combat troops are on the Eisenhower.
23 posted on 12/06/2012 6:17:51 AM PST by Will88
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To: ScottinVA

I hear that a lot: “I can’t trust American media, so I rely on Russian media I cannot trust.” LOL


24 posted on 12/06/2012 6:18:51 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Consider the source: Russia Today (the propaganda arm of the Russian government).

Correction: One of the many, many, many propaganda arms.
25 posted on 12/06/2012 6:20:37 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: rstrahan

I am reminded of the story, I think it was on Johnny Carson maybe To Tell a Lie, years back about two brothers in the Navy who went home for Christmas and dicovered they were stationed on the same aircraft carrier.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 6:21:28 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Strategy; All

I thought Obama tried to make Romney out as the war hungry monster while only he was serenely aware of the fatigue America had over endless and needless wars.


27 posted on 12/06/2012 6:22:09 AM PST by newzjunkey (grr)
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To: Salgak

It’s starting to look like we should take a force and “storm” that mountain top in France that has been ruled off-limits on 21 Dec 12.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 6:22:22 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Well if it’s posted on the Internet it must be true! [/sarc]


29 posted on 12/06/2012 6:23:20 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: 1rudeboy

I didn’t say I didn’t trust the Russian media.


30 posted on 12/06/2012 6:27:07 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: ILS21R

“I love the way you think.”

I’m just catching on to the way this administration uses the media to misinform the public and form their narrative, or “truth.”

The next thing up for the administration is to nationalize the 401k’s. Have you noticed the recent attention in the media this topic has gotten, most recently from TIME? Simply paving the way for the government by running a story asking if it’s a good idea, since only the rich have 401ks, etc...


31 posted on 12/06/2012 6:28:46 AM PST by MNGal
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To: Strategerist
They couldn’t tell the difference between an unmanned surface vessel and an unmanned underwater vessel last week

Ah... so THEY were the sources for those errant military aircraft pics shown on the screen at the DNC.

32 posted on 12/06/2012 6:30:21 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: ScottinVA
Making your previous comment somewhat of a non sequitur, I'm afraid.
33 posted on 12/06/2012 6:35:20 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Salgak

Agreed. It’s not our job. If they gas their own people, take it to the UN and let them write a very stern letter.

Unless, the purpose is to keep the two sides equal so that the war goes on for a decade or so. Maybe two.


34 posted on 12/06/2012 6:45:50 AM PST by super7man
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To: Salgak
And, gee, December 21 is not far away. I’m starting to get a VERY bad feeling. . .

Dems declare Obama their Lord and savior.....weed becomes legal here in Wa State. Fiscal cliff approaching.....oh yeah, did I mention the weed part?
Seriously, Barry has to make more noise to cover up his mistakes but has forgotten the first rule of holes...
35 posted on 12/06/2012 6:53:54 AM PST by freebird5850 (The only good thing about Barry getting re-elected is now we get to see him fall from a higher place)
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To: Strategy

For whatever reasons, Iran is supporting Syria and Saudi Arabia is supporting the Syrian rebels. Saudi Arabia. Iran. Libya. Oil. Soros. Obama. Hillary.


36 posted on 12/06/2012 6:55:29 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 1rudeboy
Consider the source: Russia Today (the propaganda arm of the Russian government).

I'm not familiar with them per se, but I would probably rate them as truthful as the 0bama Regime's Chief Propaganda Minister Jay Carney, maybe more so. After all, another Russian publication, Pravda was about the only one to point out that US capitalism had been killed by socialism.

37 posted on 12/06/2012 7:01:38 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( What have you heard about Fast and Furious or Benghazi lately?)
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To: Will88
The personnel on aircraft carriers are usually sailors and pilots,

And maybe a few Marines, but as you pointed out no troops or soldiers.

It's understandable that the foreign press does not understand the terms. Sadly neither does the domestic press.

38 posted on 12/06/2012 7:02:44 AM PST by ASA Vet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Salgak

but it is NOT OUR FIGHT. . .

100% correct! But since when does reason and law mean anything to obama? Congress has no balls to stop him so he will continue to act as a dictator. Libya was not our fight either.


39 posted on 12/06/2012 7:03:02 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I refer you to my comment #24.


40 posted on 12/06/2012 7:04:32 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Strategy

Not ONE American life should be given up for the Syrians.... NOT ONE SINGLE life!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 12/06/2012 7:06:39 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Strategy

Russian propaganda that’s paving the way for the Russians to intervene on Assad’s side?


42 posted on 12/06/2012 7:10:21 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: 1rudeboy

The only believable articles I’ve seen in a while came from CanadaFreePress. It reminds me of Radio Free Europe back during the Cold War, broadcasting the truth into socialist occupied Amerika.


43 posted on 12/06/2012 7:11:09 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( What have you heard about Fast and Furious or Benghazi lately?)
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To: brivette; rstrahan

I wonder if that’s the whole CVBG. It still seems high unless there’s a MEU involved.

Of course, it could just be a made up number from a lazy reporter . . .


44 posted on 12/06/2012 7:12:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Strategy; stylecouncilor

LPDs?


45 posted on 12/06/2012 7:27:07 AM PST by onedoug
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To: baddog 219

I agree that we should stay out of it...except that I strongly suspect we (or at any rate, Obama and the gang) were behind the jihadi “rebels” in the first place. He has been toppling one country after another to the Islamists.


46 posted on 12/06/2012 7:34:16 AM PST by livius
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To: MNGal
The recent reports in the news about chemical weapons in Assad’s control are merely laying the groundwork for a REBEL chemical weapons attack on the Syrian people, only to be blamed on Assad.

Many of these reports have come from rather vague sources. Mind you, I'm not saying Assad was a great guy, but he was more or less under control and while he ran a police state, people had more freedom under it than they will have under the Islamist police state that replaces it. The Egyptians are just realizing this...

47 posted on 12/06/2012 7:36:42 AM PST by livius
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To: Strategy; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet

This link below takes us to the USN official Ike link.

The Ike carries a compliment of 6,287 sailors including the air jocks and their crew.

There would probably be at least an additional few dozen civilians on board monitoring their products/services in use and helping to maintain them.

A similiar amount of tad naval personnel monitoring and learning.

For the Clancy fans/writers, there will be a half dozen Guys from the farm and that many from No Such Agency.

http://www.public.navy.mil/airfor/cvn69/Pages/FactsStats.aspx

Miscellaneous

Builder - Newport News Shipbuilding, Newport News, VA
Keel laid - Aug. 15, 1970
Launched - Oct. 11, 1975
Planned crew sized - 6,287 (includes Air Wing)
Number of anchors - 2
Weight of anchors - 60,000 lbs each
Anchor chain - 1,082 feet on each anchor (365 lbs per link)
Total anchor weight - 735,000 lbs each (includes chain)
Distillation plant capacity - 400,000 gallons
Number of light fixtures - approximately 29,000


48 posted on 12/06/2012 7:39:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: Strategy

It would be just like Obamugabe to put a huge number of our brave fighting men in harm’s way. After he gets them killed, he will have them replaced with his AmeriCorps thugs.


49 posted on 12/06/2012 7:46:19 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: livius

“Mind you, I’m not saying Assad was a great guy, but he was more or less under control and while he ran a police state, people had more freedom under it than they will have under the Islamist police state that replaces it. The Egyptians are just realizing this...”

I agree. I wonder if it’s truly the “people of Syria” who are trying to oust Assad, or outside factions such as the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Quaeda?


50 posted on 12/06/2012 7:48:12 AM PST by MNGal
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