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Barefoot homeless man not actually homeless
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| 12/4/12
| Mike Krumboltz
Posted on 12/05/2012 6:36:35 AM PST by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows; Jim Robinson; All
I have to ask why these days (especially on this forum) has it become necessary to pick apart every act of kindness reported? Are people deliberately trying to prove that there are no such things as selfless kind acts in this day and age?
Jeffrey Hillman is clearly a disturbed individual who is not taking help he should, but face it if he was taking the help there would be a large contingent complaining about his taking the help.
But my main question is how does the fact that Hillman is not taking advantage of help resources available to him lessen the kind and generous act of Officer DePrimo? Many on this forum complain about the lack of compassion so many Police Officers show toward animals in their killings of family pets and yet heres an Officer that committed a true act of kindness and it is still berated.
The Lord himself told us:
You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me. Matthew 26:11
He also said:
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, In as much as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.Matthew 25:40
I do understand that that it is very hard in todays world to trust and believe the best in people. I myself am very careful to who and what I give to. May times I have brought a meal and handed it to someone, but very few are the times I hand them cash. But when at times I feel my heart harden to the point beyond what it should I like to think on these words:
Hub McCane: Sometimes, the things that may or may not be true are the things that a man needs to believe in the most: that people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power, mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love, true love, never dies. You remember that, boy. Doesnt matter if they are true or not. A man should believe in those things because those are the things worth believing in. From the movie 'Secondhand Lions (2003)
In the end our performance of acts of charity and kindness is not as much for those in need, but for the good of our own souls. And there is no balm made better for a trouble soul than HOPE.
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posted on
12/05/2012 9:09:41 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Slings and Arrows
I don’t like the ones that seem to come out every winter, all dressed in red, laughing, calling everybody a ho and asking for money. Some even have the nerve to ring bells at people!
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posted on
12/05/2012 9:23:22 AM PST
by
stuartcr
("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
To: Kartographer
I don’t remember the chapter and verse but Jesus said something to the effect of “I send you out as lambs among the wolves.” He also ran the money hangers, who were con men, out of the Temple. I think that it’s suspicious that somebody just happens to record this whole scene. There is a term known as “Opportunity Costs”. Basically, it asks you to see if you are getting the best use of your resources. Could this policeman have better used that $100? I encourage people to be compassionate and generous...just not to con men.
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posted on
12/05/2012 9:25:03 AM PST
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: Slings and Arrows
I give to the Church, or, the Salvation Army...THAT’s IT. Otherwise - in today’s world - I assume it’s a scam.
Besides, I already “give” to the “poor” via proxy...the obama administration’s ideology of redistribution.
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posted on
12/05/2012 9:38:10 AM PST
by
FrankR
(They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
To: stuartcr
65
posted on
12/05/2012 9:45:02 AM PST
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: blueunicorn6
I don’t see where your reply has anything to do with this situation as Hillman clearly has mental problems, so he’s not a wolf. As far as the officer’s act being Opportunity Costs, show me the evidence that would prove your claim? And if you are basing your claim on just your ‘suspicions are you not reinforcing the point of my post? And when did we become a nation wherein one persons suspicions where enough to condemn a mans act? Isn’t condemning people without proof a tactic of the ‘Leftist’?
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posted on
12/05/2012 9:47:46 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Slings and Arrows; All
Sherlock Holmes, Man with the Twisted Lip.
Guy wasn’t crazy though, just successful.
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posted on
12/05/2012 9:50:47 AM PST
by
Conan the Librarian
(The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
To: frogjerk
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posted on
12/05/2012 9:52:57 AM PST
by
Lionheartusa1
(-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
To: Kartographer
How do you know he has mental problems? Have you examined and diagnosed him? You want me to prove Opportunity Costs to you? That’s like asking someone to prove the sun is shining. It makes no sense. Would the policeman have done more good by giving his $100 to the Salvation Army? Yes. The stories say this fellow lives in an apartment, so he’s not homeless. It’s hard for people when they realize they have been victims of a Con Game. The Grifters count on that guilt. Many Con Games are never reported because people are ashamed of being taken.
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posted on
12/05/2012 10:12:23 AM PST
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: Conan the Librarian
I’ll have to read that one.
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posted on
12/05/2012 10:24:17 AM PST
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: blueunicorn6
READ the numerous articles and the interview with his brother.
But even that I doubt would sake your thrist for blame, condomnation and ridicule.
Ebenezer: Are there no prisons?
First Collector: Plenty of prisons.
Ebenezer: And the union workhouses - are they still in operation?
First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.
Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I'm very glad to hear it.
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posted on
12/05/2012 11:07:41 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: blueunicorn6
READ the numerous articles and the interview with his brother.
But even that I doubt would sake your thrist for blame, condomnation and ridicule.
Ebenezer: Are there no prisons?
First Collector: Plenty of prisons.
Ebenezer: And the union workhouses - are they still in operation?
First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.
Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I'm very glad to hear it.
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posted on
12/05/2012 11:07:58 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: blueunicorn6
"Would the policeman have done more good by giving his $100 to the Salvation Army?
And so you would dictate to a man how he gives and to what causes? You sully the man's reputation with your 'suspecions' instead of truths? And call it good?
73
posted on
12/05/2012 11:12:09 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Slings and Arrows
My rule is do not feed the pigeons. A couple of quick stories re: “homeless beggars”.
1. San Francisco 9th street off ramp from the Central freeway. A fellow would stand by the traffic light with a cardboard sign “Hungry will work for food. Please help. Bless you.” etc. The message varied but basically the same. One day I saw him getting ready for work. He had the trunk of a Pinto open and was changing into “work” clothes ie: Goodwill instant beggar outfit,ruffling his hair and applying some sort of lotion( Coppertone?) to give him that ruddy outdoor look. I did see him make money from drivers.
2. Anecdotal from ex co-worker, I will call him “Lars”, when he was in the Merchant Marine prior to working with the IT firm I was working at. Lars was on shore leave in San Pedro and walking around with his shipmate when they were aggressively panhandled for money by a street person ostensibly for food.
Lars and his shipmate refused and got the “bum” to admit he just wanted money to drink. They then had the bum wait as they went to a liquor store and bought 4 gallons of the cheapest strongest wine they could find. The “homeless guy” was ecstatic and walked off to a park with his new treasure.
Later that day they were stopped by San Pedro PD and questioned about buying wine for a “homeless” guy. The cop went ballistic and threatened Lars and his shipmate with arrest for the duration of their shore leave if they ever did that again.
It turns out the beggar had several friends show up to help him enjoy his new bounty. End result a small crowd of very intoxicated “homeless” had mini riot in the park fighting and arguing. The local PD had to use several dozen officers to break it up using night sticks, mace and cuffs plus haul them all off for booking.
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posted on
12/05/2012 11:14:30 AM PST
by
Polynikes
(Hakkaa Palle)
To: Slings and Arrows
So last weekend, with a personal vow not to discuss the results of the recent election during a family reunion, I was driving several relatives who had supported the expansion of the welfare state to a regional shopping mall, when I hear one of my more liberal democrat sisters scream, “Stop....roll down your window!”
With amazement, I saw she was pointing to a group of four people standing at the intersection (listening to their I-pods of course) who had their hands out waiting for foolish drivers to hand over their hard-earned money.
I had not said anything political all weekend until that moment, when I blurted out, “You have to be kidding...your guy won vowing to give these scammers more and more free crap, so why would you even think about giving them money?”
I never got a reply and needless to say, the next words she spoke to me was at the end of the weekend when she said “goodbye” at my departure.
I’m afraid there are just too many like my relative who really just don’t have a clue.
BTW - Just in case there was any doubt, I had refused to lower my window!
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posted on
12/05/2012 11:17:26 AM PST
by
Brandonmark
(OWCM is The new American Minority!)
To: kabumpo
You’re right. He lives in Sniffen Court. Sorry, I’ve known him (at a distance!) for almost 20 years and he’s always been nuts.
To: Kartographer
You ignore my points and questions and say that I’m doing things that I’m not doing. Arguing with you is pointless. Have a Merry Christmas.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:14:16 PM PST
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: blueunicorn6
Sure you didn't mean:
"boiled in my own pudding, and buried with a stake of holly through my heart."
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:35:05 PM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Slings and Arrows
Ill give a beggar food, but not money.
When I was young and naive, I decided to buy handkerchiefs for the homeless on the streets of downtown New Orleans where I worked. I thought they would appreciate that someone thought of them at Christmas. Boy was a dummy I was. They most probably said nasty things when I walked off. You can’t spend or drink a handkerchief:-). I have learned.
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posted on
12/06/2012 6:43:05 AM PST
by
Bitsy
To: Amberdawn
Its been said many times that there are homeless people who prefer it that way.
If you think about it, they have no mortgage and insurance premiums to pay, no home to upkeep, car to upkeep no nothing - no responsibility. They eat at soup kitchens and sleep at Salvation Army when it gets cold. Sometimes, it sounds tempting.
Unfortunately, some are mentally ill. When I was young, we used to hospitalize these people now they let them just wander the streets.
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posted on
12/06/2012 6:48:07 AM PST
by
Bitsy
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