Posted on 12/05/2012 4:25:13 AM PST by Kaslin
I think you are referring to the Gallup polls ~ and this last year they were biased beyond belief ~ possibly inadvertently, but maybe vertently! Anybody who’s been making business decisions based on Gallup data probably ought to reconsider ~ seriously ~ check http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2965660/posts?page=155#155
More important than the reputable pre-election polls is the gap in crowd enthusiasm. The Dems, with their candidates in the room, were acting beaten. The GOPers, with their candidates in the room, were acting energized. There’s probably also a lot of forensic evidence of voter fraud on the district-by-district level, but that would take an investigation with tools that the average freeper does not possess. But the reports of districts going 99 or 100% for Obama tend to support this hypothesis.
The reputable polls showed Obama winning. Polls showing Romney ahead in swing states were unweighted and rats had higher turnout as predicted by the reputable polls. Here in Virginia the rats got their blacks to the polls (Petersburg City) while white coal miners and their families stayed home (Tazewell county). Most of the data is here: http://electionresults.virginia.gov click on President then on local results. Then compare to demographics for each county or city. You will see 50% turnout in Tazewell and 60% in Petersburg.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that the federal voting rights was all that important in enabling the 'Rats fixing of the presidential election. It's my understanding that the act applies mainly to the former Confederate states, which went for Romney, except for the crucial battleground states of Florida and Virginia. Perhaps you can explain to us in more detail how the voting rights act impacted the outcome.
But I agree with you that there was a "poisonous seed sown by the left" which enabled the fraud and cheating. Probably the single most significant aspect of it is early voting, where the connection to fraud should be obvious: the more days the polls are open, the more times the same individuals can be moved around the state to vote again and again. Other poisonous seeds were failure to require proof of citizenship, same day registration, "Motor Voter," and no-excuse absentee voting. Then there also were calculated delays in getting ballots to military personnel abroad, flouting a federal statute that was supposed to make this process more efficient. Then, too, 'Rats have a thing where demented and mentally retarded institutionalized individuals incapable of understanding the voting process vote by "assistants." Clearly the use of "assistants" can and should be mitigated by stricter state laws and administrative policies.
I would agree that instead of going along with the left's mantra of the more votes the merrier, we should emphasize the quality of the voter, not the quantity. I don't see anything wrong with requiring voters to pass an elementary civics test to register to vote, just as we require prospective driver licensees to pass a simple test on the rules of the road.
That's pure observer bias. The dems had enthusiastic crowds.
But the reports of districts going 99 or 100% for Obama tend to support this hypothesis
There's some evidence of fraud in 100% votes. However making then all 93% (the black exit poll result for Obama) would not change the outcome.
That's pure observer bias. The dems had enthusiastic crowds.
But the reports of districts going 99 or 100% for Obama tend to support this hypothesis
There's some evidence of fraud in 100% votes. However making then all 93% (the black exit poll result for Obama) would not change the outcome.
There are no observers that are not biased, including yourself. The crowds that I saw looked beaten. It was written all over their faces. If you saw some enthusiastic crowds, show me the footage along with the dates, not that it matters.
Making the 100% districts 93% in New York would not change the outcome, because that is a hard-core blue state, and if it was fraud, it was overkill, but 100% doesn’t happen except in banana republics. What I would like to know is if there were similar suspicious districts in swing states, with either excessive turnout or near-unanimous voting or both. There voter fraud would be outcome-determinative.
And the other 51% must have gone to government schools.
Nov 2 in Ohio: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/309198-1
Cleveland Ohio had 100% Obama voting in 16 precincts, and more than 93% in at least 100 IIRC. The numbers still don't give Romney a victory, it's about 1200 votes to take from Obama's count and give to Romney. The high 90's votes for Obama are probably more correct than the 93% black exit polling, the latter is probably low since they didn't poll in those 100% Obama ghetto precincts.
As for turnout, generally 60-70% in Obama land, more than Romney territory in many cases.
Kevin Glass or Daniel Doherty?
If all that we needed to be concerned with was the 100% districts, you would be right. But the 100% districts are merely a symptom of voter fraud, manifested in places where there was no need to be cautious, and they overdid it. Voter fraud, however, is not restricted to solidly partisan territory. There are double voters, dead people kept on roles, and lax identification requirements, all of which are a concern everywhere. The 100% districts are an indication of what might be going on statewide. But as I say, nobody on this forum has the resources to thoroughly investigate even Ohio, let alone all of the swing states.
In a landslide victory, such as Obama had in 2008, it’s moot. The voter fraud changes nothing. But in a close election, such as in 1960, it can make a big difference.
Thus, the election might have been stolen.
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I would agree that instead of going along with the left's mantra of the more votes the merrier, we should emphasize the quality of the voter, not the quantity. I don't see anything wrong with requiring voters to pass an elementary civics test to register to vote, just as we require prospective driver licensees to pass a simple test on the rules of the road.
This is exactly what the VRA was intended to prevent -- any impediment to minority voting, and making sure they can form coherent thoughts will be viewed as exactly that.
But we can't continue letting people with no real civic interest dictate the future of our nation.
Buying votes with freebies is the biggest election fix of all.
Oops it was Daniel Doherty. I had not been quite awake when I posted the article this morning
If the election wasn’t stolen, why the hell were most commie ‘RATS even surprised on the night of November 6th. The majority of them actually believed that their race card boy was going to get his clock cleaned. Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! The commies had a plan that no one saw coming. The “election” was stolen.
sadly we still have a few freepers which seem not to care or can;t understand this or are just trolls
Both true, but two types of fraud. The 100% districts are due to some sort of coaching or other system preventing a free vote in unmonitored precincts. The vote also represents lockstep ghetto mentality, I really doubt the actual vote is less than the high 90's. They didn't need to be cautious and didn't overdo some other type of fraud.
The other types of fraud are present almost anywhere and manifest in college students who can vote in their college and home state with almost no way of being caught along, the infirm being coached how to vote, the dead or fictitious voting absentee. That may add up to enough fraud to swing a swing state but I have not seen an analysis of enough extra votes to do that. 1k seems plausible, but not 100k here in Virginia.
Whether it was ACORN or one or several of the ACORN-like organizations under different names, you raise a very important point with digital fraud, which definitely seems to be a major part of the 'Rat cheating scenario, and one which was not so apparent several years ago.
Digital fraud requires a level of technical expertise which seemingly wasn't as apparent in the fraud operation of 2008. It required the integration into the Obama campaign apparatus of a cadre of bright but sinister and corrupt operatives who were capable of hacking into the electronic vote counting and/or tabulating systems. At least some of the optical scanning systems used by county election officials, especially those manufactured by Diebold and its successor corporation, had been pretty well known to be vulnerable to hacking for the past decade or so, with documented incidents in local elections in large south Florida counties. Vulnerable to hacking also are some touch screen voting systems, as reported by voters who voted for Romney in Colorado, yet were informed by the computer that their vote was counted for Obama.
The bottom line is that state legislatures have to get to work to see to it that all electronic voting equipment used anywhere in their states is carefully inspected by computer engineers to assure reliability, accuracy, and security from hacking. If government can inspect other contracted equipment serving other government functions to assure that the product is reliable and safe (e.g., military equipment), it should be forced by Americans willing to protect the integrity of their voting rights into doing the same for electronic voting equipment. And if it can't, we can forget about about electronic equipment altogether and go back to paper ballots visually inspected by reps of all candidates. Integrity in vote counting is more important than speed!
I was referring to Gallup, among others (including Rasmussen and internal GOP polls), which had Romney with a slim lead in the national popular vote the day before the election. Considering that Gallup's bias is usually in favor of the 'Rats, a slim Romney lead even in Gallup might logically be interpreted as a slightly larger lead in real life. Only problem is that Gallup, nor anyone else doing the polling, had any mechanism for accounting for the Dummyfraud seen on a larger basis than in previous presidential elections.
No wonder why the Romney campaign insiders were reported as "shellshocked" when the alleged vote totals came in on election night.
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