Skip to comments.Um: 49% of Republicans Think the 2012 Election Was Stolen? (It was)
Posted on 12/05/2012 4:25:13 AM PST by Kaslin
>Yes, we lost. But I dont think its necessarily fair to say that ACORN stole the election, do you?
PPP's first post election national poll finds that Republicans are taking the results pretty hard...and also declining in numbers.
49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn't exist anymore.
Some GOP voters are so unhappy with the outcome that they no longer care to be a part of the United States. 25% of Republicans say they would like their state to secede from the union compared to 56% who want to stay and 19% who aren't sure.
One reason that such a high percentage of Republicans are holding what could be seen as extreme views is that their numbers are declining. Our final poll before the election, which hit the final outcome almost on the head, found 39% of voters identifying themselves as Democrats and 37% as Republicans. Since the election we've seen a 5 point increase in Democratic identification to 44%, and a 5 point decrease in Republican identification to 32%.
It seems theres been quite a lot of talk of secession lately. Retiring Texas Congressman Ron Paul even released a short video about how the act of secession is a deeply American principle passed on from our Founding Fathers, or something. But for those who actually believe allowing certain states to secede from the Union is a good idea, I would respectfully recommend re-reading the first five or so Federalist Papers, in which Publius explicitly warns about the inherent dangers of (a) disunion and (b) the creation of multiple confederacies.
Furthermore, I would also be the first to admit that the results from the 2012 presidential election were utterly devastating, and took me completely by surprise. But call me crazy -- I dont think the election was outright stolen, let alone by a political organization that reportedly doesnt even exist anymore! The fact is that Team Romney made a number of costly mistakes, not the least of which was spending precious time and resources in battleground states that werent really competitive -- before locking up Florida, Virginia, and Ohio.
The best thing Republicans can do right now is look forward to (and prepare for) 2014 -- when the GOP has a real shot at retaking control of the Senate -- instead of dwelling on the past.
ACORN doesn’t exist any more? BULLCRAP!
ACORN renamed, still claiming tax exemptions
ACORN still exists. Under 20 other names. Morons.
Count me in on this one.
Summary of Party Affiliation
October 31, 2012
Republican Democrat Other R - D Quarterly
Oct 39.1% 33.3% 27.5% 5.8%
Sep 36.8% 34.2% 29.0% 2.6% 2.6%
Aug 37.6% 33.3% 29.2% 4.3%
Jul 34.9% 34.0% 31.1% 0.9%
Jun 35.4% 34.0% 30.5% 1.4% 1.8%
May 35.7% 33.8% 30.5% 1.9%
Apr 35.1% 33.1% 31.8% 2.0%
Mar 36.4% 33.4% 30.2% 3.0% 3.3%
Feb 36.0% 32.4% 31.6% 3.6%
Jan 35.9% 32.5% 31.6% 3.4%
Dec 35.4% 32.7% 32.0% 2.7% 1.1%
Nov 34.3% 34.9% 30.8% -0.6%
Oct 34.3% 33.1% 32.6% 1.2%
Sep 33.9% 33.7% 32.4% 0.2% -0.3%
Aug 33.5% 33.0% 33.5% 0.5%
July 33.1% 34.8% 32.1% -1.7%
Jun 34.4% 34.7% 31.0% -0.3% 0.9%
May 35.6% 34.0% 30.4% 1.6%
Apr 34.8% 33.5% 31.7% 1.3%
Mar 34.0% 35.3% 30.7% -1.3% 0.0%
Feb 35.1% 34.3% 30.6% 0.8%
Jan 35.4% 35.0% 29.6% 0.4%
That is correct, ACORN changed it’s name, it’s still exists
I am in the process of making a decision of whether or not to Secede from the Republican party.
We lost because the party picked our candidate.
We lost because the party allows New Hampshire and Iowa to pick the candidate in their first primary.
We lost because our candidate said he would rid us of Obamacare, when he friggin invented it.
We lost because our candidate did not fight.
We lost because not one Republican in Congress REALLY stood behind our candidate, not one came out strong attacking the system or the administration.
With more than 50% of the voters cashing federal checks and our politicians feeding the free stuff mindset, what is the option to secession?
Hard to see that in Virginia. We were outgunned by Planned Parenthood (using our own tax money). We stayed home in rural areas and conservative parts of rural areas and turned out elsewhere. We have easy registration (supermarkets, flea market, park and ride, etc) and both sides were relatively motivated here. But we didn’t get the votes and even assuming some fraud would not make up the difference. At least we had no 100% Obama precincts like Philly and Cleveland, although we had a 99.
I find it a little obscene that the election was decided by legions of voters in large urban areas, who don’t function above a 6th grade level, scoff at the notion of holding a job, and couldn’t have a policy discussion with a piece of meatloaf.
Drive through the major cities...you see those guys hanging out on the corner? They are our masters. We are their slaves.
That’s the aspect of how it was ‘stolen’...requirements to own property, pay taxes, or be literate to vote have been dismissed from our society as mean and racists. Its onlt logical that we are now in this situation.
That is correct, ACORN changed it’s name, it’s still exists
The days of law-abiding elections are fargone. It will be a long time if the USA can recover......if ever.
“But call me crazy — I dont think the election was outright stolen, let alone by a political organization that reportedly doesnt even exist anymore! “
Some said the TEA PARTY doesn’t exist anymore either. Hear us roar in 2014. Of course, we will still be thrown out of polls as watchers, and there’s little we can do to fix the voting machines that automatically default to democratic candidates.
If all these things about Republicans are true, then that means that the default position is socialism, abortion, gay marriage, lies, as who faults the RATS for their personally demonizing every opponent? No one, that is accepted as normal.
Compare the classy Republican convention to the depravity of the Democrat convention which glorified abortion and, oh, yes, by all mean, contraception is a legitimate campaign issue.
I saw the Republican party as being the party of sane, moral people while the Democrat party is the party of liars and perverts.
I’d bet the one-term only presidents were honest men and didn’t want to cheat. The rest do for sure.
Or the numerous times when he said after I am reelected, or when I am reelected. These were signs that he had from the beginning planned to steal the election.
You know darn well that a third party would have no chance at all. I think what we need to do is unite and not divide ourselves as those who want to join a third party do
People who do not grasp this fundamental issue will never succeed. Funny that Romney actually voiced it. But we need to do something about it. And it is going to have to happen at the state level. First, the states need to go to war against the voting rights act.
The poisonous seed sown by the left is now bearing fruit for them. One of those is the voting rights act that keeps getting renewed. It was originally only supposed to last five years, now it has had two 25-year extensions in a row. It basically nullifies a states ability to regulate their own election.
Exactly, those who stayed at home or voted for a third party which is a waste in the first place as they have zero chances.
Communism is dead!
A chicken in every pot!
Peace in our Time!
This will only hurt for a little while!
Honesh, occifer, I only had two beer.
(Just some of the greatest lies in the world)
Another bogus pol... because WAY more than 49% believe the ‘re election’ is not legitimate. (Neither was the first ‘election’).
And I’m certain that the DNC would gladly fund ANY third party Conservative candidate!
The GOP rebranded and calls itself “the lobbyist Party “.
All of Bonehead ex aides run it from
There blush K Street offices !
Romney didn’t win Iowa, he stole it.
You can thank Ron Paul for bringing that to light. Funny how it dropped off the radar so quickly.
Why stop the voter Id laws from going into effect in Pa and WI unless you an to steal those states ?
Why keep early voting alive in Ohio and illegally do early voting in all the Dem Fl counties if you are not stuffing the electronic voting machine there ?
The Daley machine was called in 2000 to steal Fl but they lost .
They studied the laws and the flaws in all key states and set up the machine to steal the Pres elections in 2008 and its was active for 2012 .
It’s very obvious .
Why kick out polls watchers in 90 precincts unless your stuffing the machines !
We are getting the “birtherized “ for demanding answers to this blatant voter fraud .
I knew that would happen !
This village idiot Glass tells bold faced luesuke Accorn went away and no one calls him out !
Possible but not likely that fraud accounted for the margin of victory.
A poor campaign by Willard was a bigger factor.
I have nothing against a third party, if it had any chances, but all they do is help the rats and to this I say, thanks, but no thanks
Well said and on the mark.
You beat me to it.
O ran a real re-election campaign in the swing states while Romney's was incompetent. A number of his frustrated volunteers have come out and admitted how inept it was, and they were posted here in threads. Alternative the O campaign has been bragging exactly how their 'get out the vote ' campaign worked and was planned to work.,
Once we descend into ‘All the polls and the election was rigged to make it look like Romney lost when he really won ‘ its JIm Jones cult time.
Nothing else to do but sip the poison Koolaid.
Mr. Glass is stupid or deceiving his readers. ACORN was disbanded so that its leaders did not go to jail. They simply renamed the organization and have reorganized across the country.
When 91 precincts in NYC recorded NO Republican votes, and more voters voted Democrat than there were registered in various counties in PA and OH, there was rampant corruption in this illegitimate re-election of BO.
Self-delusion and poppycock are normal mental states for liberal RINOs.
49% of Republicans Think the 2012 Election Was Stolen?
The other 51% know it was.
“Or the numerous times when he said after I am reelected, or when I am reelected. “
Exactly. zero walked through this election cycle confident in his re-election. Very confident. I have never, ever seen anyone as confident in the inevitability of the outcome as he was. He knew it was his before the first results were called. All the rest of us were the idiots to think the fraud/handout regime wouldn’t be able to prevail.
Who are you calling RINOs? Perhaps you need to have a look in your own mirror
There were no presidential choices on my Colorado primary ballot - Mitt was already annointed before we voted. I have not had a primary choice since 2000.
You know it’s bad when even Canada is looking like a good option
Wouldn’t it have been nice if our original documents had limited all politicians to only one term?
Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger Speaker, there were a lot of us in that boat.
Kaslin I know that a third party would take a while to build.
The fact is that Republican leadership will not allow significant changes in the Repubican party it would be a great loss of power to them.
Personally I do not want to Unite with the Moderate Democrats in disguise that are running the Republican party at this time.
Either they go or I go , and they are not going anywhere.Why should they, haven’t they sold us down the river in the last two elections?
The biggest problem in America today are career politicians.
NO ONE should stay in politics for 30 plus years without finding another job. They hang on to that Government teat as a lifeline to power, and prosperity.. Certainly not what was meant by the Founders.
Well, then, that begs the question - who's doing the "reporting"? Oh, yeah, the MSM, in the bag for the communist left.
Well; the GOP-e keeps giving Conservative worse and worse candidates; so maybe in the future a third party WOULD flip the balance over...
We lost because of massive voter fraud & there isn’t one single Republican doing a single thing about it. One voting district in rural St Lucie County, Fla, has 7 REGISTERED voters & they had 900 votes cast there. You want me to believe that there is no voter fraud & that I can trust the inaction of the Republican party over this issue?
Double Bull crap!!!!!
I am in the process of making a decision of whether or not to Secede from the Republican party.””
Me, too. After being a registered Republican for over 51 years, I am done.
Exactly -- Alinskyites have been doing this for 50 years, and the Communists for years before that. Remember reading about the "dissolution" of COMINTERN? Yeah, right, they "went out of business" -- ask the Czechs and Vietnamese.
The fast shuffle, and creating a cloud of "concerned citizen organizations" to badger the majority is a standard feature of Communist "frontal" politics.
Can't you just imagine this was the scene with Obama and his Commie staff after stealing the election through voter fraud- while Conservatives blame Romney, argue, point fingers, blather on about who to run in four years, 'starting a new party', and try to figure out how to suck up to minorities the 'next time'?
Map from Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012
What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about who to run in 2016 and how to suck up to the minorities.
>Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election.
>The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office.
>Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.
>Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.
>Mitt knew it too, when he was met by several thousand in that parking garage cheering him when he arrived unannounced at that airport, and he put his hand over his heart and said, 'This is how you know you've won'.
So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?
Massive voter fraud.
That and no other reason
Almost every major Conservative website has put out an article charging voter fraud- Breitbart, American Thinker, Atlas Shrugs, WND, The Blaze, Front Page Magazine, Fox News, The Daily Caller, Town Hall, Human Events..
We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.
We must act NOW.
Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.
We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....
Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people dont trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".
Col West has opened the door.
We must fight election fraud.
It falls on We the People.
Silence is consent
These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it wont do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...
Read the rest- Here
CANADA FREE PRESS: Here
The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
Sign this petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email- Here
Sign the We The People petition. It has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here
Click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-
< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here
Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here
'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here
Must watch videos!
VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here
VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here
VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here
VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here
VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here
Voter fraud from Tea Party: Here
The American Dream- 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham: Here
Town Hall : Obama Likely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud: Here
American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen:? Here
WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse: Here
Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts: Here
Natural News.com: 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election: Here
Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012? Here
WND: Here's How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes: Here
The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs: Here
WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports: Here
Nachum's List of Voter Fraud: Here
Newt Gingrich 360: Here
Appalachian Forums: Here
Before It's News: Here
Political Outcast: Here
True The Vote: Here
Fox News Insider: Here
Human Events; Here
The Will County News: Here
Fox News: Here
Accuracy In Media The Left's national voter fraud strategy exposed: Here
Thousands of military votes uncounted or missing: Here
Human Events: Here
Front Page Magazine: Here
The Blaze Here
The Daily Caller: Here
Front Page Magazine Here
Military Voter Protection Project: Here
Fox News Here
The Blaze Here
The best Obama Exposure site on the net, The Obama File: Here
The United StatesLibrary of Congress has selected TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection of Internet materials Here
Check for the thread that discusses the RiNO capitulation 20 years ago to a pair of Rat lawsuits whining that Republican efforts to counter vote fraud were "suppressing" the rights of po' little peoples. The GOP signed two consent decrees (I never heard about them at all, they "should" have been Page One news), when they should have gone to the mat and given the Democrats a brick in the teeth.
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