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New York Post piles on the horror with front-page photo of man about to be killed by subway train
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Posted on 12/04/2012 3:57:28 PM PST by Arthurio

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1 posted on 12/04/2012 3:57:33 PM PST by Arthurio
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Video clip of the subway pusher suspect: http://youtu.be/ZYHS03F7W4Y

Appears to be Amish.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 3:59:17 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

And now, we can thank Arturio of FR for doing the same.


3 posted on 12/04/2012 4:00:28 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Nobody forced you to go there and look at the picture, Rudey.


4 posted on 12/04/2012 4:03:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: 1rudeboy
And now, we can thank Arturio of FR for doing the same.

That's not really fair. It's not like the Post is some fringe media outlet. This cover, disturbing as it is, was seen by millions of people. It is legitimate news.

5 posted on 12/04/2012 4:05:20 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Arthurio

Maybe this is off topic but at many subway stations in Beijing and Shanghai this could not possibly happen because the tracks are separated from the platform by plexiglass windows. Who is the third world and who is the first?


6 posted on 12/04/2012 4:06:13 PM PST by DManA
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To: Arthurio

That’s it! We must ban subway trains now that someone has used it as a weapon.


7 posted on 12/04/2012 4:06:14 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Arthurio

Maybe this is off topic but at many subway stations in Beijing and Shanghai this could not possibly happen because the tracks are separated from the platform by plexiglass windows. Who is the third world and who is the first?


8 posted on 12/04/2012 4:06:34 PM PST by DManA
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To: HiTech RedNeck

And now, we know that the perp is black (or Muslim, depending on the FR meme). Where should I direct my outrage?


9 posted on 12/04/2012 4:06:39 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Arthurio

NYC is full of deranged people whom Bloomberg has prevented the police from going after. They all need to be in involuntary committal in hospitals. Giuliani fought very hard to get some of the worst of them put away, but the judges kept letting them out...even after they had killed people.

A lot of the worst and most aggressive ones are black, and they often attack Asians or white women because they perceive them as weak. They used to attack Hispanics, but a few knife-carrying Dominicans made them drop that plan and seek “safer” victims.

When they catch this guy, I guarantee he’ll be out in no time at all. Caught by the police and released by the judicial system.


10 posted on 12/04/2012 4:09:38 PM PST by livius
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To: 1rudeboy

And...?

The Korean cared, and for his trouble got shoved onto the tracks. That’s bad even if it was a green Martian that shoved him.


11 posted on 12/04/2012 4:10:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: freeangel
That’s it! We must ban subway trains now that someone has used it as a weapon.

Call Bob Costas!

12 posted on 12/04/2012 4:10:55 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Drew68

And anyhow this presumably isn’t a video of the pushee, but of the pusher.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 4:11:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Arthurio

The poor man. I have always stayed well back from the edge of the platform. Call me paranoid, but there are too many nuts out there.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 4:12:02 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DManA
Beijing and Shanghai... Who is the third world and who is the first?

Perhaps a better question would be who is the communist and who is the capitalist?

15 posted on 12/04/2012 4:13:04 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I was simply wondering if I should direct my outrage at the publication, or a particular racial or ethnic group. /s


16 posted on 12/04/2012 4:13:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Arthurio

Leave it to NYC to make a bigger deal about a picture of the crime than the POS filthy animal that pushed him onto the tracks.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 4:14:16 PM PST by soycd
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To: trisham

Not to mention kids that charge around blindly.


18 posted on 12/04/2012 4:14:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: 1rudeboy

Maybe here, at the city which lets such nuts roam like that.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 4:15:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: 1rudeboy

Btw, my sister and I were attacked by a black loony on a subway train....and the passengers who came to our aid were black. I especially remember one older couple who came forward even though it looked to me like they would have been no physical match for the attacker. But that’s what bravery is about, and they bought us enough time to get to the next station.

So the racial aspect is in the mind of the loony because crazy people are always looking for so,etching to “justify” their madness.

Put them away (with review procedures) and give them treatment. This man’s death was unnecessary.


20 posted on 12/04/2012 4:16:01 PM PST by livius
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To: SeeSharp

Subways in Manhattan are government programs. Look at them. Look at these pieces of crap. You don’t think we can do better?

(I know you do).


21 posted on 12/04/2012 4:16:31 PM PST by DManA
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To: Arthurio

No good deed goes unpunished.


22 posted on 12/04/2012 4:16:31 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: livius

If I were a New Yorker, I’d be campaigning to get Giuliani to run again. He may be far from a viable presidential candidate, but he was an effective Mayor. Bloomberg is a farshtinkener.


23 posted on 12/04/2012 4:22:53 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I hate public transportation.


24 posted on 12/04/2012 4:25:02 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Arthurio
This reminds me of a photo about 45-50 years ago from the NY Daily Mirror. The pic showed a man's decapitated body on the tracks. The head was on one side of the rail, the body on the other.

Don't remember if it was on front page or inside.

25 posted on 12/04/2012 4:25:41 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: trisham

I wish he would. I’ve heard he might, or may be supporting some other candidate.


26 posted on 12/04/2012 4:27:48 PM PST by livius
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To: soycd

The photo will prove a blessing if it gets the City to put those haters where they can’t hurt people.


27 posted on 12/04/2012 4:28:45 PM PST by kenavi (Lost the country? Win your state.)
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To: Arthurio

In Florida we have the Baker Act which permits a person to be detained if “He poses a danger to himself or others”. I would presume that this is the case in almost every other jurisdiction under different names. Our problem is that history has shown the ‘institutionalizing’ of the afflicted in a very poor light especially when the government uses a very liberal policy of commitment. From this policy comes the cases exposed in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. Yet, those extremes still leave the acute psychotics and paranoiacs who have no support structures and ARE A DANGER to the innocent public.

Obviously, a method and separation must be found but in the real world, the advocates for extreme rights for these deranged persons and the costs of incarceration weigh heavily against anything being done. God bless this man for his efforts and my prayers for his family and friends.


28 posted on 12/04/2012 4:29:15 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: kenavi

And who was the person taking the picture instead of trying to help the guy to get out?


29 posted on 12/04/2012 4:31:32 PM PST by Nella
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To: Arthurio

They should publish pics of the perp!

His name and address and his hangouts


30 posted on 12/04/2012 4:32:23 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: livius

I love New York/New York City. I plan to visit again one of these days.


31 posted on 12/04/2012 4:33:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GeronL

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_nypd_suspect_train_kb_121204_wg.jpg


32 posted on 12/04/2012 4:34:07 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

People wonder how spectacles like the Roman colosseum could have happened in a supposedly “civilized” society... People being fed to lions... Gladiators fighting to the death... And such.

I would stipulate that we’re merely -—> <-— this far away from that. Any time now.


33 posted on 12/04/2012 4:35:46 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: DManA
The Third World is the jurisdiction that builds subway stations with the assumption that so many people will naturally be shoved onto the tracks that they have to be built shove-proof.
34 posted on 12/04/2012 4:36:55 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Arthurio

Gangbanger thug probably


35 posted on 12/04/2012 4:38:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Nella

The guy taking the picture was a NY Post reporter who said he was waving and trying to use the flash to signal the train operator to stop.

Question is, where were all the other witnesses? Wasn’t anyone close enough to try to pull him out or had the altercation with the “homeless guy” sent them all scattering?


36 posted on 12/04/2012 4:40:55 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Arthurio

Rush showed traces of the ‘old’ Rush today, using absurdity to point out the absurd (Costas)- he used this one saying we can’t blame the pusher, we have to blame the train cause if it wasn’t running etc etc etc...

Rush kind of ‘attacked’ everything that had a remote chance of being involved in a violent crime, always shifting the ‘blame’ from the doer to an object that was there — and suggesting that Costas run a commentary on the evils of the innate object.


37 posted on 12/04/2012 4:44:25 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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Many here are trying to get him to run for mayor again


38 posted on 12/04/2012 4:45:54 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: trisham
The poor man. I have always stayed well back from the edge of the platform. Call me paranoid, but there are too many nuts out there.

Yeah, me too. I don't take trains/subways very often. Recently I was in Britain taking a train from Portsmouth to London and back and there were "Wanted" signs posted everywhere asking for help in solving a similar crime where some unlucky commuter was pushed to their death onto the tracks.

39 posted on 12/04/2012 4:51:07 PM PST by Drew68
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And anyhow this presumably isn’t a video of the pushee, but of the pusher.

Well, the cover photo is clearly of the victim in the last seconds of his life trying unsuccessfully to save himself.

This is what people find so disturbing.

40 posted on 12/04/2012 4:54:58 PM PST by Drew68
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To: livius
They all need to be in involuntary committal in hospitals.

I doubt there's enough hospitals in New York City to commit all of Gotham's crazy residents, much less the staff to care for them.

41 posted on 12/04/2012 4:58:02 PM PST by Drew68
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If the Food Stamp President had a son, he would be just like him .... pushing people onto train tracks!


42 posted on 12/04/2012 5:21:35 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: DManA
Maybe this is off topic but at many subway stations in Beijing and Shanghai this could not possibly happen because the tracks are separated from the platform by plexiglass windows. Who is the third world and who is the first?

NY City could add plexiglass windows, but it would need a $2 billion grant from the Federal Gov't. Its not excessive when you have the most expensive Gov't in the world.

43 posted on 12/04/2012 5:29:49 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Focault's Pendulum

That was (ahem) questionable editorial judgement. But not unique. Many moons ago — I’d guess late 1970’s, because I was visiting my parents back home — our intrepid southern Indiana beacon of journalism ran a front page pic of a man, still in the car, who had burned to death in an auto accident. Toasted to a crisp. From the posture and the scream seared on his face, he had died in the fire, trying to escape, not from impact. He had a wife and two kids, who must have seen the photo. There was some grumbling in town that the editor should have thought twice.

A quick and tidy decapitation would have been far preferable.


44 posted on 12/04/2012 5:33:25 PM PST by sphinx ([)
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To: DManA

Willie? Is that you?


45 posted on 12/04/2012 6:04:33 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Arthurio

When it comes down to it, the guy who pushed the man onto the subway tracks is no different than a drunk who kills someone while DUI.


46 posted on 12/04/2012 6:11:55 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: Tailback

I think Willie LIKED government run transit. Didn’t he?


47 posted on 12/04/2012 6:15:59 PM PST by DManA
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To: trisham

I live in the sticks and have never been near a subway or a platform, and I mean no disrespect to the victim here.

But it appears to me that he is standing next to the chest-high platform. Am I seeing it wrong—is it possible that he is not standing but rather dangling?—or is it really the case that he is unable to pull himself up over a four-and-a-half-foot ledge?

Is the surface possibly very slippery? Or perhaps it happened in a split-second? The still photo makes it look like he is standing and contemplating his fate.


48 posted on 12/04/2012 6:26:56 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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“and suggesting that Costas run a commentary on the evils of the innate object.”

He also said Costas wasn’t responsible for his comment, it was the microphones’ fault. Same reasoning that Costas and Whitlock used


49 posted on 12/04/2012 6:27:42 PM PST by Figment
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To: livius
When I was a teenager, the first time I ever traveled on the NYC subway system unaccompanied by adults was December 22, 1984. I think most New Yorkers who have been around a long time and travel the subway system regularly have that date etched in their memories.

I haven't been on the subway in several years now. I hate everything about it.

50 posted on 12/04/2012 6:36:28 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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