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Bozell: 'Time for Conservatives to Start Looking for a New Home'
CNSNews ^ | Tuesday December 4, 2012

Posted on 12/04/2012 1:29:55 PM PST by Bigtigermike

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1 posted on 12/04/2012 1:30:08 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Duh....


2 posted on 12/04/2012 1:32:09 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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How about the Conservatives in the House mobilize to vote out Boehner from his leadership position?


3 posted on 12/04/2012 1:32:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Indeed.

The GOP does not represent me or America in any way, shape or form.


4 posted on 12/04/2012 1:33:19 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Bigtigermike

20% of the people are liberal and 40% are conservative. A new political party the Tea Party will fix them just fine.


5 posted on 12/04/2012 1:33:58 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Gene Eric

I recommend not holding your breath.


6 posted on 12/04/2012 1:34:24 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Bigtigermike
No not find a new home, build it. Sarah and Col West, are you listening?

We are ready and we will work our @$$es off to do it.

I and so many others are so done with the E-GOP...

7 posted on 12/04/2012 1:35:00 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: chris37

The vote for new leadership can’t happen until the next congress is convened.


8 posted on 12/04/2012 1:35:45 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bigtigermike

If the two party dance is over, the next best thing is a one party dance. Don’t confuse people with party choices.


9 posted on 12/04/2012 1:36:35 PM PST by pallis
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To: mountainlion
20% of the people are liberal and 40% are conservative. A new political party the Tea Party will fix them just fine.

47% (or more) of the nation's population are dependent on the labor of others for their next meal.That figure trumps any other figure you can cite.Remember..."when robbing Peter to pay Paul,one can *always* count on Paul's cooperation".

10 posted on 12/04/2012 1:38:03 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: massgopguy

Oh yes, I know, but the gutless GOP isn’t going to grow any guts.

Boner is actually the perfect speaker for the GOP IMO.


11 posted on 12/04/2012 1:38:56 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Has anyone told Boner that 800 billion was exactly what Obama asked for during the election? Geithner doubled everything ( top 2%, 160 billion tax hike, etc) on Sunday. Does Boner have ANY negotiation skills???


12 posted on 12/04/2012 1:39:13 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Gene Eric

I think Bonehead just sent a message to conservatives. Get in line with
the ways of DC or get removed from committees.

I agree that he needs to go. Looks like only a scandal will take him out.
Maybe Hillary will loan us Boneheads FBI file.


13 posted on 12/04/2012 1:43:08 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Gay State Conservative

My Dad would have responded with: If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you wind up with a sore Peter. Everyone knows you can’t do anything with a sore Peter.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 1:44:44 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Bigtigermike

When the dems got too left, what did Reagan do? He left and pointed out that his former party had left HIM.

And that’s exactly what the Repubicans have done with ME.

SCREW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY —NOT my party, no way. NO MORE>


15 posted on 12/04/2012 1:47:10 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Bigtigermike

Ruh roh.


16 posted on 12/04/2012 1:48:03 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: taildragger

As Ross Perot showed, with essentially unlimited money and a ton of MSM publicity, a third party can pull in a solid 19% and lock in Dems solidly.


17 posted on 12/04/2012 1:48:02 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Bigtigermike
How bout no potty at all!

Politician is plural; they're all in bed together!!!!!


18 posted on 12/04/2012 1:49:10 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: nascarnation

Then good send more $ and time to that rat hole called the GOP, I am done, have a nice day.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 1:50:05 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Gene Eric
How about the Conservatives in the House mobilize to vote out Boehner from his leadership position?

Because the no-spined moderate Republicans in the House would vote for Pelosi in a second rather than risk a conservative being elected Speaker.

20 posted on 12/04/2012 1:50:25 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Gadsden1st
My Dad would have responded with: If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you wind up with a sore Peter. Everyone knows you can’t do anything with a sore Peter.

Sounds like your father had a pretty irreverent sense of humor!

21 posted on 12/04/2012 1:51:07 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: pallis
If the two party dance is over, the next best thing is a one party dance. Don’t confuse people with party choices.

Exactly right. Every conservative needs to re-register as a Democrat and work to elect conservative candidates in Democrat primaries.

22 posted on 12/04/2012 1:51:07 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Bigtigermike

If I go tomorrow to change my voter registration, what are my choices besides independent?

I would like to register as Tea Party... but it is not formed.
Is there a conservative party? or constitution party?


23 posted on 12/04/2012 1:54:01 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: taildragger
“No not find a new home, build it. Sarah and Col West, are you listening?”

I want to echo your statement if I may.

And to borrow a phrase from the movie ‘Field of Dreams’: Ms. Palin and Col West, “Build it and he (they) will come.” - MILLIONS of red-blooded Americans will follow and support you...and their money too.

Like it or not, this is where the rubber meets the road, and it behooves us to ask both West and Palin a Patrick Henry question: “Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!”

24 posted on 12/04/2012 1:54:47 PM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: KarlInOhio

>> Because the no-spined moderate Republicans in the House would vote for Pelosi

Then force their hands and expose them so the constituents can see the true nature of their representation.


25 posted on 12/04/2012 1:57:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: chris37
The GOP does not represent me or America in any way, shape or form.

I realized this back when George W Bush had both Housess of Congress and the GOP did not do one thing to reduce government, stop[ deficit spending, revise the tax code, halt illegal immigration , etc. I recall commenting, upon hearing of yet another government beauracracy, Homeland Security, that I do not have a party anymore...and I probably never did.

So, this is just an echo of old news. Oh, and Obamacare will never be repealed. Have a nice day Chris.

26 posted on 12/04/2012 2:00:43 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: nascarnation
As Ross Perot showed, with essentially unlimited money and a ton of MSM publicity, a third party can pull in a solid 19% and lock in Dems solidly.

B$, if he hadn't withdrawn and then went totally bananas who knows what he might have garnered.

27 posted on 12/04/2012 2:02:49 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Bigtigermike

You either make the republican party more conservative or nothing. A third party won’t do anything. And while our house leader isn’t good, I don’t think ANYONE will like the debt deal or lack thereof. This divide and conquer tactic on us is working apparently...because some folks on here think you can just make a conservative party and naturally win all elected office....dream on. We have to find a way to gather a majority conservative party and republican lite party together or we’re just a losing party all the way.


28 posted on 12/04/2012 2:03:21 PM PST by Rick_Michael (We are becoming a Mediocracy: By and For the mediocre. The flock of the wise must gather.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
The core Conservative principles and elective success are there for those who dare.
And the failing GOP, as evidenced by Mr.Boehner purging any conservative dissent, is sending people to the New Party.
If 20% of the conservatives that were financed by Sarah Palin would go New Party, the Republican Party would be dust in the wind in the next election.
The Republican Party symbol should be a chicken.
TWB
29 posted on 12/04/2012 2:03:53 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: Bigtigermike
Conservatives must seek a separation from the GOP itself if liberty is to survive in any fashion.

The GOP is the Judenrat to the MarxoFascists in power. Anyone who doesn't see and understand that is hopelessly lost to a virulent form of cognitive dissonance - the one that holds on and deliberately ignores the truth because it's too painful to accept.

Conservatives must think beyond just Third Party. We're under enemy occupation folks. We better wake up and recognize that.

The GOP are the Judenrat for the enemy.

They' are already helping the MarxoFascists annihilate Conservative voices and rendering us extinct in national politics. If history repeats - those same Collaborators will help criminalize Obama's political enemies and stand there pretending to be shocked when the very people they helped the enemy war against, are rounded up and disposed of.


30 posted on 12/04/2012 2:06:04 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Safrguns

Yes to both of your questions, unfortunately the leadership in both these parties is a little strange. I checked them both out when I wanted to re-register and their appeal is pretty limited. Of course I am some where to the right of Attila the Hun. Ronald Reagan has been the only President I have ever taken pride in voting for in the last 50 years.


31 posted on 12/04/2012 2:06:22 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

He’s right.

We need a third political party. If the GOP fields a real conservative candidate, we endorse him/her. Otherwise we run our own.

Its time for tough love and time to take down the RINOs. They gave us Romney and Romney gave us 4 more years of Obama and now Boner and McConnell are going to give us four more years of Boner and McConnell.

Its got to stop. NOW.


32 posted on 12/04/2012 2:08:43 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Bigtigermike

If the R-conservatives were smart, they would coalesce and tell Boehner — hey, you wanna be speaker next year? Then reappoint those you just dumped. Otherwise, WE are helping the Dems re-seat Pelosi.

R-conservatives need to take a stand or Boehner and the GOPe’s will continue to depose them.


33 posted on 12/04/2012 2:11:11 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TWhiteBear
"The Republican Party symbol should be a chicken."

We need the bumper sticker to mail to our congress!!!

34 posted on 12/04/2012 2:12:56 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: Bigtigermike

Long past time. I have very little in common with the thinking of those who are generally known as leaders of the Republican Party.


35 posted on 12/04/2012 2:15:19 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Bigtigermike

If more conservatives had refused to vote for Romney, the GOP might be less likely to nominate another liberal in 2016. The fact that Romney got so many votes probably pushed the conservative movement back four years.


36 posted on 12/04/2012 2:16:45 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: nascarnation

As Ross Perot showed, with essentially unlimited money and a ton of MSM publicity, a third party can pull in a solid 19% and lock in Dems solidly.

 

I suggest you need a different perspective.  The republicans and a new conservative party SHOULD fight for dominance in our two-party system.  Will that enable a democrat president in 2016?  Obviously it will.  But the last time the republicans had power, they pissed it away trying to buy votes and expanded the govt at a then, unheard of pace.  With the exception of the judicial branch, I fail to see the downside in having this fight.  Screw the republicans:  They obviously don't care that much about smaller government so adios.  I was willing to go along with them, and yet another lame candidate, one more time because I was of the belief of anyone but Barrack Obama.  Well, that fight is over and we lost.  In fact republicans have lost five out of the last six popular votes for president.  They don't just insult conservatives, but when it comes right down to it, they (moderate republicans) are lousy politicians.

Is there any reason to suspect things won't continue as they have?  Last I read, Bohner has cemented his cronies in the house and has punished some conservatives for not bending over when he told them to cave.  When my values are treated with contempt more than the opposition party, I think its time to move on.  I will support with money and time a new conservative party dedicated to smaller govenment, liberty, adherence to the original intent of the US constition and of returning power to the states.  And assuming such a party forms, I will by necessity, oppose the Republican party as strongly as I know how.  

We need to dominate the republican party in such a fight and make them go the way of the Whigs.  Then, and only then, can we start to try to implement our agenda. 

37 posted on 12/04/2012 2:21:46 PM PST by BJ1
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To: Bigtigermike
We done got us a name.

We call ourselves The T.E.A. Party!

38 posted on 12/04/2012 2:22:56 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: nascarnation

How convenient of you to blame Perot voters for George “read my lips,
no new taxes” Bush loss. Bush lied to conservatives. As a result, left a huge
opening for another candidate.

And 19 percent went, elsewhere.

In addition, the Tea Party is a lot stronger today, than the 19 percent
That voted for Perot.
I did not leave the GOP, they have left me.


39 posted on 12/04/2012 2:23:32 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: TWhiteBear

Republican symbol the chicken is OK, but what about a “cave”, for they alway cave, don’t they? Every time one sees the name “Boehner”, he knows the word “cave” can’t be far behind.


40 posted on 12/04/2012 2:31:31 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Gene Eric
How about the Conservatives in the House mobilize to vote out Boehner from his leadership position?

Conservatives may get elected as such, but once they get to D.C., something happens to them.

I think there's something in the air there. It's like the Zombie Apocalypse.

41 posted on 12/04/2012 2:36:06 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Bigtigermike

The parties have continued to march left...the democrats are now communists, and the republicans are now what dems used to be...we need a party for conservatives. I still like the platform of the Constitution Party.


42 posted on 12/04/2012 2:36:06 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: sirchtruth

Why now? Nothing has changed in the last 4 years, or 20 years for that matter.


43 posted on 12/04/2012 2:37:25 PM PST by nomobs
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To: elkfersupper

Well, I imagine there are others that wouldn’t mind representing the constituents.

I guess it boils down to how much pressure is applied by the district. If people are as pissed as I’m led to believe, then the reps should be more responsive.

We need a more vibrant, connected constituency.


44 posted on 12/04/2012 2:41:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: tennmountainman
the Tea Party is a lot stronger today, than the 19 percent

OK I'll accept your premise even though I think you are wildly optimistic because Perot had essentially unlimited financing which the TP won't come close to.

The R party does about 50% nationally on the popular vote. So the election would split 50/25/25.

45 posted on 12/04/2012 2:42:10 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: mountainlion
20% of the people are liberal and 40% are conservative. A new political party the Tea Party will fix them just fine.

And the GOP still found a way to lose. Clearly, the GOP needs to go away.

46 posted on 12/04/2012 2:43:53 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

As I look back through my life, it becomes apparent to me that the only time I ever had a leader, a magnificent, good, decent and honest man whom I admired then and now was when I was a boy and Ronald Reagan was president.

Outside of him, nothing.

Indeed you are right when you describe GWB and the GOP holding of both houses. They demonstrated precisely what they stand for at that time, and that is ever expanding government.

VRW Conspirator, you have a nice day too, and God Bless.


47 posted on 12/04/2012 2:44:05 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: nascarnation

The bottom line for a GOP Presidental candidate is don’t lie to your base
and u won’t have to worry about a third party candidate picking off enough
to cost the GOP an election.

Perot got his opening from Bush’s lie about not raising taxes.


48 posted on 12/04/2012 2:52:51 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: nascarnation
OK I'll accept your premise even though I think you are wildly optimistic because Perot had essentially unlimited financing which the TP won't come close to.

Not sure how you can call Perot's financing "unlimited". He spent less than his opponents.

The R party does about 50% nationally on the popular vote. So the election would split 50/25/25.

I disagree. I think the Tea Party message, if it gets out and takes on the media spin firmly, would draw a LARGE portion of the 30% of registered who do NOT vote, AND a decent proportion of the 35% of eligible voters who do not even register to vote.

LESS government intervention, LOWER taxes for all, fiscal responsibility, and Equal Liberty for all... ALL of those resonate very well with those on the Left and Right and moderates AND non-voters. I think it gets back to a dead heat with the Taker Party within a single election.

49 posted on 12/04/2012 2:55:37 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Bigtigermike

So how about Sarah Palin taking Armey’s spot at FreedomWorks and leading the gradual development of the GOP’s replacement?

For 2014, I’d suggest getting the tea party on the ballot in states like CT and NY that allow candidates to be listed on multiple party lines. By 2016 I’d like to see the tea party with a nationwide structure and a pre-primary national convention by which the party selects its GOP candidate to back through the primaries—this is the GOP’s absolutely last chance!. If that process ends up working (and I’d hope Palin would be the candidate they’d end up supporting), then fine. If not, I want to see the party on the ballot in all 50 states by 2018, and winning the presidency in 2020.


50 posted on 12/04/2012 2:55:54 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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