Posted on 12/02/2012 1:42:05 PM PST by Orange1998
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuET0kpHoyM
Don’t assume so, because that has little purpose.
Instead, look to the old East Germany as an example of what happens when this is taken to a logical extreme. They had truly vast archives of dossiers about all their citizens, and had compelled almost half their citizens to inform on the other half. But what did this achieve?
East Germany was an utter mess, because the police state was so caught up in minutiae that it neglected the “important stuff”, the very purposes of government. The infrastructure was decrepit; though they were also hyper-militarized, their military was worthless; the level of pollution was such that it will still take centuries to clean up much of it; “luxury items” like shaving razors and toilet paper were rare indeed; and the alcoholism and drug abuse rates were terrible.
100% official employment, but nobody really worked. It finally all collapsed when it was realized that just a small handful of corrupt, old men still wanted things that way. And when it did collapse, nobody did much of anything while waiting for the West Germans to pick up the pieces.
In any event, this is the direction our national intelligence and police agencies want to take us. Their ambition knows no restraint; but in the final analysis, they don’t do anything productive. They just waste resources, until either there are no resources left to waste, or the public gets tired of their antics.
They surveillance and spy and dossier and monitor themselves out of a job. Then they curl up and cry themselves to sleep because there is always more that they can’t peep on. Secrets that they cannot divine. Minds they cannot control. People using quantities of toilet paper that they cannot track by the sheet.
Perhaps America needs to learn its lesson the hard way, like East Germany, that just because you can be that way, you don’t have to be that way. Just because technology can be Big Brother, it doesn’t have to, because no good comes from that.
Actually, this started in 1947 when the United Kingdom countries, America a few others started listening in on telephone messages and other electronic information transmissions.
We can’t legally monitor Americans but England, Australia, Canada and New Zealand can and get info back to us. We inturn return the favors by monitoring those countries.
It is called Project Echelon: Which means any electronically method of transmission voice/data/code is probably monitored.
Go to the link below and read it and learn.
http://www.nsawatch.org/echelonfaq.html
Q - What is Project ECHELON?
ECHELON is the term popularly used for an automated global interception and relay system operated by the intelligence agencies in five nations: the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (it is believed that ECHELON is the code name for the portion of the system that intercepts satellite-based communications). While the United States National Security Agency (NSA) takes the lead, ECHELON works in conjunction with other intelligence agencies, including the Australian Defence Signals Directorate (DSD). It is believed that ECHELON also works with Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the agencies of other allies of the United States, pursuant to various treaties. (1)
These countries coordinate their activities pursuant to the UKUSA agreement, which dates back to 1947. The original ECHELON dates back to 1971. However, its capabilities and priorities have expanded greatly since its formation. According to reports, it is capable of intercepting and processing many types of transmissions, throughout the globe. In fact, it has been suggested that ECHELON may intercept as many as 3 billion communications everyday, including phone calls, e-mail messages, Internet downloads, satellite transmissions, and so on. (2) The ECHELON system gathers all of these transmissions indiscriminately, then distills the information that is most heavily desired through artificial intelligence programs. Some sources have claimed that ECHELON sifts through an estimated 90 percent of all traffic that flows through the Internet. (3)
However, the exact capabilities and goals of ECHELON remain unclear. For example, it is unknown whether ECHELON actually targets domestic communications.
This is just a tiny excerpt. If you are interested, allow at least 30 minutes to go the link and work the sublinks:
http://www.nsawatch.org/echelonfaq.html
Then, on your own search out Echelon. Just remember, you will probably be monitored.
They are too incompetent to probably even find my postings.
Roger your Key 44: Air Mene mene fubo1 fubo1 tekel fubo1 upharsin crafty basket ball golf mooshell: FUBO FUBO FUBO!
See Tails - https://tails.boum.org/
Put it on USB, boot off it, and you are encrypted end-to-end and all access is via Tor. With only Tor your provider still knows, just not the endpoint. With Tails your provider only knows you are accessing Tor.
Yes, the old NSA bait .signature file needs an updating
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NSA CIA BUSH KILL ASSASSIN FBI CRIME HACKER SPOOK RSA PGP DES DSS RDX
How can I moon the NSA?
The issue isn’t the information they keep on you. It is the information they CLAIM to have on you.
Let’s say a corrupt intelligence official decides to assassinate a public official. They find someone who opposes this official politically and create incriminating evidence which gets mixed in with the actual collected intelligence. The deed is done by a professional and the schmuck is framed with the created and real “evidence”. Wouldn’t matter if it was unusable in court, just leak it to the MSM and the damage is done.
Maybe a low level mobster would take out the schmuck before he goes to trial and it all gets wrapped up in a bow.
Naw, couldn’t happen...
“How can I moon the NSA?”
Have someone take a picture of you mooning with a smart phone.
Then, post that picture on any social media and/or send the picture on email with the title: Mooning NSA or Moon for NSA.
I’ve always assumed as much.
I figure it gives us street cred with the people we actually care about, when the time comes to need it.
With the commies/libs/RINOS, who cares if they have what I post. I speak the truth, I write the truth. It is not like I would speak anything different when/if I ever have a forum or questioning.
LOL and I am literally the most mundane normal American outside of this website. I wake up, walk the dog, go to my good corporate job, get home walk the dog, talk with my wife, make dinner, read FR, go to bed. Wait for Sunday, watch football (or what is left of it).
LOL, go ahead waste your time spying on me! Har har har.
I WANT that t-shirt. If you don’t make ‘em I will.
Tell me where and when I can buy one!
When we all get to Heaven, I am really going to enjoy that “every knee shall bow and every mouth will confess” deal. All those haters of all ages, having to fess up.
Priceless.
AMEN! Won’t it be grand!
Will Schadenfreude be appropriate in heaven?
Just a semi-serious thought.
Potentially, I am so screwed because I believe in Freedom. Oh,well...
Meanwhile, no one who works in the government can ever seem to find the emails I send them. And I can't find the emails they send me either. Basically we spend all day on the Beltway blowing up each other's email boxes with stuff we've already sent each other before.
Glad SOMEONE is saving our emails /s
Meanwhile, no one who works in the government can ever seem to find the emails I send them. And I can't find the emails they send me either. Basically we spend all day on the Beltway blowing up each other's email boxes with stuff we've already sent each other before.
Glad SOMEONE is saving our emails /s<<<
Thanks for proving my point. The government's attempt to save every email is bound to be a failure. There's too much there there. One guy wrote back to my post with an algorithm which would supposedly weed out the chaff from the wheat, which would be great if humans could invent an algorithm powerful enough to determine nuance, hint, or idiom. Your emails are somewhere. Finding that email is the problem, though.
Indeed. And the stupid runs deep. Most people around here don't know an algorithm from an al gore.
There's something to be said for hiding in plain sight.
Do you have any idea how much your phone company spends just in maintenence?
No, I never really thought about that.
Well, I guess many people don't. But those billions of miles of wire and all those exchanges... Why just the maintenance on our thousands of offices and buildings... And that's not even to mention our rolling stock -- the cars, trucks, airplanes and satellites. And then all those fine people who are actually on the payroll to take care of all that.
Now, wouldn't it be just grand if we could get rid of all that old-fashioned hardware?
And there's another thing that's going to come as a surprise to you. There are quite a few people who actually dislike "The Phone Company." And because of this irrational dislike of their own publicly-owned company, they often don't pay their bills and sometimes even damage the equipment.
Can you imagine the ease, the fun, with which you can place a call? Why all you have to do is think the number of the person you wish to speak to and you're in instant communication -- anywhere in the world.
... Congress will have to pass a law substituting personal numbers for names as the only legal identification, and requiring a pre-natal insertion of the Cerebrum Communicator. Then a communication tax could be levied and paid directly to "The Phone Company."
Their misfortune is their fault. They had the exact same chance as you and I did. They chose to snub their noses at God and tell Him He was not important, they did not believe, they would do what they wanted to do regardless of what He said, refused the Word of the Bible, etc. Your assessment of what I think and believe does not matter to me. I don’t answer to you. I answer to Him. My remark was that it is going to be grand. I think everyone who wants to be there will enjoy it. If you are not among them, that is your call.
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