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From Man Who Insulted Muhammad, No Regret
New York Times ^ | 11/26/2012 | SERGE F. KOVALESKI and BROOKS BARNES

Posted on 11/26/2012 7:51:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind

LOS ANGELES — Fuming for two months in a jail cell here, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula has had plenty of time to reconsider the wisdom of making “Innocence of Muslims,” his crude YouTube movie trailer depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a bloodthirsty, philandering thug.

Does Mr. Nakoula now regret the footage? After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world and led the unlikely filmmaker to his own arrest for violating his supervised release on a fraud conviction.

Not at all. In his first public comments since his incarceration soon after the video gained international attention in September, Mr. Nakoula told The New York Times that he would go to great lengths to convey what he called “the actual truth” about Muhammad. “I thought, before I wrote this script,” he said, “that I should burn myself in a public square to let the American people and the people of the world know this message that I believe in.”

In explaining his reasons for the film, Mr. Nakoula, 55, a Coptic Christian born in Egypt, cited the 2009 massacre at Fort Hood, Tex., as a prime example of the violence committed “under the sign of Allah.” His anger seemed so intense over the years that even from a federal prison in 2010, he followed the protests against the building of an Islamic center and mosque near ground zero in New York as he continued to work on his movie script.

Until now, only the barest details were known about the making of the film that inspired international outrage. Initial reports made it seem as if the film had been thrown together in about a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
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1 posted on 11/26/2012 7:51:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Until now, only the barest details were known about the making of the film that inspired international outrage.

The NY Slimes still continues pushing the big lie. Even the regime has sort of moved past this lie.

2 posted on 11/26/2012 7:55:00 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: SeekAndFind

After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world

OUT and OUT LIE and they know it, no need to read any further, just more propaganda.


3 posted on 11/26/2012 7:57:06 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: SeekAndFind
. . . has had plenty of time to reconsider the wisdom of making “Innocence of Muslims,” his crude YouTube movie trailer depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a bloodthirsty, philandering thug.

IOW, spot on accurately.

4 posted on 11/26/2012 7:59:41 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

If his film instigated ANY violence then certainly “Zero Dark Thirty” MUST be shut down immediately! Just think of the worldwide outage that will happen when America proudly displays on film the murder of one of Islam’s superheroes.


5 posted on 11/26/2012 8:01:29 AM PST by ne1410s ("We will not tolerate your intolerance!!!" ...huh?)
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To: SeekAndFind

They never arrested the maker of the film Batman that caused the death of many in Colorado.


6 posted on 11/26/2012 8:02:38 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The guy is in jail ostensibly for a probation violation, but the NYT headline convicts the guy of a sharia-crime.


7 posted on 11/26/2012 8:03:25 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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To: SeekAndFind
The "Prophet" Muhammad was a bloodthirsty, philandering thug.
8 posted on 11/26/2012 8:05:13 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world...”

And there, ladies and gentlemen, is proof positive (as if we needed it) of the total sleeze of the NYT.

A more blatant stinking pile of bull Obama does not exist.

Oh wait, I forgot about the White House press releases and the Hillabeast vocal emissions.


9 posted on 11/26/2012 8:07:09 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: eyeamok; All
OUT and OUT LIE and they know it, no need
to read any further, just more propaganda.
Yhea..read no more; NYT(slimes), the official..(the moronic)..
stenographer to the White Hut Marxist and the Establishment.

10 posted on 11/26/2012 8:09:31 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: Da Coyote

Our press demonizes a person who points out the inconsistencies of Islamic fundamentalism as hateful, but promotes anti-Israeli militant activity and decapitation of Christians who simply share their knowledge of God with others.

Reads as though the worldly press tends to be more demonically influenced than those they observe.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 8:11:26 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Da Coyote

There are many things in this world that I dislike, despise and have a wish to have removed, But unlike the irrational and all to common response of isalamic peoples I ague my case and make attemtps to educate or sway by reason not blood shed. The islamic nations that support an and encourage this behavior would be well served to always hope that the peoples of the West continue to act as I do, and not as they do.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 8:13:19 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: eyeamok

“After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world”

Obviously it didn’t, but if it did it would only be an indication of how crazy the Islamic world is.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 8:19:40 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: YankeeReb
NYT needs to understand this......

1400 years – 270 MILLION innocents murdered by “the prophet" followers!!!

Why Should We Fear Islam? Dr. Bill Warner

The whole administration is stocked with islamic sympatizers!!!

14 posted on 11/26/2012 8:19:54 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: ne1410s

An islam ‘superhero’ is one who enjoys lying down with children, sodomy, sex with animals and murdering innocents.

Quite a religion the grizzled old pedophile founded.


15 posted on 11/26/2012 8:21:21 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does Mr. Nakoula now regret the footage? After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world and led the unlikely filmmaker to his own arrest for violating his supervised release on a fraud conviction.

GAH! Even when Obama ADMITTING IT WAS NOT THE MOVIE, the NY Slimes still cannot stop pushing that lie.

Idiots, the lot of them!


16 posted on 11/26/2012 8:22:30 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: SeekAndFind
After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world and led the unlikely filmmaker to his own arrest for violating his supervised release on a fraud conviction.

Still pushing that Slimes? Really. And good for him for not backing down.

17 posted on 11/26/2012 8:29:32 AM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: wesagain

Thanks for posting link to that video. Anybody who hasn’t seen it should take the time to watch it. Also Warner’s other videos.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 8:35:02 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“it fueled deadly protests”
A sneaky way of saying that the film CAUSED the deaths.
Normal people know what the word CAUSE means. For the left, there is no such thing as a cause and effect relationship, unless it’s something they can use against a Republican.


19 posted on 11/26/2012 8:37:27 AM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism comes from an incurable mental illness.)
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To: wesagain

The British foreign office and its clone, the American state Department have always been pro-Arab. It’s those “dirty Jews,” you know. /s. Despite the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate administration sought to prevent Jewish immigration into Palestiine, even as Arabs flooded into the Mandate from every direction.


20 posted on 11/26/2012 8:42:29 AM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hear people insult the name of Jesus Christ every single day of my life. What’s the big deal with Mohammed?


21 posted on 11/26/2012 8:43:22 AM PST by cookcounty ("For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of my country.")
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To: SeekAndFind
"His anger seemed so intense over the years that even from a federal prison in 2010, he followed the protests against the building of an Islamic center and mosque near ground zero in New York as he continued to work on his movie script. "

Imagine that! Anger SO INTENSE that he actually FOLLOWED the protests against the 9-11 mosque!

22 posted on 11/26/2012 8:46:41 AM PST by cookcounty ("For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of my country.")
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To: SeekAndFind

The New York Times is without doubt the biggest POS newpaper in the country.

They are Obama’s personal mouthpiece.

Any journalist worthy of the name should quit there and find a real job, however there are no journalists working there. Only propagandists.

Obama’s administration jailed this man for no other reason other than to perpetrate their lie.This man is a living martyr.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 8:55:03 AM PST by Venturer
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To: cookcounty

“I hear people insult the name of Jesus Christ every single day of my life. What’s the big deal with Mohammed?”

Yep, when’s the last time someone dunked a koran in a jar of urine and called it art?


24 posted on 11/26/2012 9:01:34 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: cookcounty

They don’t want fatwas issued against them by the peaceful Muslims.

Christians just turn the other cheek. So fair game.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 9:10:38 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m somewhat surprised to see this article in the Times. I’m glad the guy is at least being allowed interviews while serving his trumped-up First Amendment-violating prison sentence.

I initially thought he had been put in place by the Obama regime, since the original video was about the activities of the “Terrorist George” or the “Terrorist B” (B for Bush, presumably), both of which are forms used by the Muslims in reference to GW Bush. In addition, there were questionable things about his financial background (not just the fraud charges) and the people or groups with whom he seems to have had some involvement; at the same time, he may not have known who their actual identity.

But if this article is true, then maybe he really was just trying to produce a video telling the truth about Mohammed.

It’s very obvious in any case that the Federal Government has been watching him for some time and knew exactly how to use him and his video.

I wonder how long they had the “offensive video” story backed up.

Incidentally, to add another layer to the conspiracy theory, Jill Kelley was apparently the person who got the generals involved in pressuring Terry Jones and also got them and local government and law enforcement to dissuade a radio jock named Bubba the Love Sponge from deep-fat frying a Koran.

As Mark Steyn said, Jill Kelley for Secretary of State, because she seems to be the international power broker - on the side of the Muslims (she’s an Arabic speaker, theoretically Maronite, but Maronites are very dhimmified).

It always struck me as completely disproportionate and wierd that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff would call a small town, independent fundamentalist church preacher in Gainesville, Florida, and make it sound like the preacher was causing an international incident with national security considerations if he didn’t give up his First Amendment rights and not show the video.

I notice that most people have forgotten about this incident, because apparently the stunt looked a little ridiculous even to the press so the administration has airbrushed it out of the narrative.

I think you really can trace a very complicated web out from Nakoulah. He and Terry Jones were somewhat marginal, quasi-flaky people who would be easy to ridicule and discredit and who didn’t have any important backers. Thus they were perfect fall guys whenever the Obama regime wanted to use them.


26 posted on 11/26/2012 9:16:12 AM PST by livius
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To: SeekAndFind
I find it pretty interesting that this guy, who admittedly is hardly an upright citizen, gets a year in jail for a probation violation that involves no more than making a movie and posting a trailer on YouTube. He may have violated a strict interpretation of his probation terms, but he did not commit another crime (except in the eyes of Hillary and the Mufti-in-Chief).

I constantly hear the wailing and moaning about the lack of jail space, about how dangerous criminals are released because there's nowhere to put them. If that's the case, why is this guy still in jail? Unless the Mufti wants to send a signal to his Muslim buddies that on his watch Sharia will be enforced.

27 posted on 11/26/2012 9:19:20 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: SeekAndFind
His anger seemed so intense over the years blah blah blah. Anger = bad, killing Americans = non-issue. Sure NYT. Is there any reason other than Satanic blindness that people can buy into this line of BS?
28 posted on 11/26/2012 9:38:24 AM PST by RKM
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To: mojito

Let this serve as a lesson to anyone who tries to exercise freedom of speech against Mohammed while Obama is in power


29 posted on 11/26/2012 9:40:19 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: YankeeReb

Latest news from the Ministry of Truth. Stand-by, film at 11.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 9:49:45 AM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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To: YankeeReb

Latest news from the Ministry of Truth. Stand-by, film at 11.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 9:49:56 AM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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To: ne1410s

I don’t think they will fuss too much about Bin Ladin. They don’t show too many movies in that part of the world.

I know that Saudi Arabia has no movie theaters and their internet is heavily censored. The same may be true of the anal retentive islamic countries. They may not know the movie is out for a few months yet.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 10:33:55 AM PST by USAF80
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To: all the best
Thank you, please pass it along. Every American should watch it. Now check these also.

Soldier tries to warn of the dangers of Islam!

Muslim Influence in the Pentagon

Three Star General - Muslim Influence has penetrated Pentagon

CIA Hosting Muslim Terrorists!

Remember what Eric Nordstrom said in a Congressional hearing Oct 10, 2012 …."The Taliban is on the inside of the building"

33 posted on 11/26/2012 11:33:37 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If we are going to incarcerate people for writings, I think a good place to start would be with the people who print the Koran.


34 posted on 11/26/2012 1:13:30 PM PST by Gertie
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To Hell with the 1st Amendment — ain’t that so, you Leftwing scumbags?

No one from ACLU, Leftwing Media, Hollywood, nor largely Congress stood up for the 1st Amendment.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 2:10:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it a crime to offend people?

Or just Muslims?


36 posted on 11/26/2012 3:49:14 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: BenLurkin

>>>The “Prophet” Muhammad was a bloodthirsty, philandering thug.<<<

I beg your pardon but I find that comment deeply offensive!

(You left out calling him a pedophile, rapist, thief, and liar.)


37 posted on 11/26/2012 4:27:30 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: autumnraine
Isn't the NY Times the paper whose deceitful article on the Koran-in-toilet fueled mayhem and murder in the Islamic world?

How about the abu Ghraibh reporting? A lot of riots, destruction and deaths attributable to that, many of the dead westerners as well as the usual muslim-on-muslim violence, and to make sure more got killed, the press reported it every day for months.

38 posted on 11/26/2012 5:13:26 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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39 posted on 11/26/2012 5:14:56 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: BenLurkin
The "Prophet" Muhammad was a bloodthirsty, philandering thug.

And a pedophile.

40 posted on 11/26/2012 7:18:23 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: SeekAndFind

I think people are getting confused.

9/11 in Libya had nothing to do with the video, but, the film did inspire international outrage. Especially, in Egypt, but also around the world.

Yes, people are idiots for getting upset and protesting a film, but you just can’t pretend the protests never happened.


41 posted on 11/26/2012 7:35:51 PM PST by turn_to
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To: turn_to
I think people are getting confused.

9/11 in Libya had nothing to do with the video, but, the film did inspire international outrage. Especially, in Egypt, but also around the world.

Yes, people are idiots for getting upset and protesting a film, but you just can’t pretend the protests never happened.

I think you are confused. No one pretends that the idiots do not riot -we simply give the riots no legitimacy. There is NO excuse to perpetrate such evil as that which the Islamists do in the name of their perverted religion.

42 posted on 11/26/2012 11:13:29 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: turn_to

This is correct. Especially after U.S. Government served as the enabler to make sure the world knew about it.


43 posted on 11/27/2012 6:42:36 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: YankeeReb

Yankee Reb, we live in a world of fiction which the Nazis
and Communists, Alice in Wonderland (”whatever I say three times is true”) and the great George Orwell could only dream about. The objective truth about ANYTHING has receded into the mists deep within the forest, and gets harder and harder to locate, and the world is full of even MORE people who don’t have the tools or inclination to venture into the forest.The reason the NYT continues to push the lie of the video is clear to me—they are pushing the same lie they helped “validate” 10 weeks ago precisely BECAUSE the Administration has moved past it.In a sense the Old Gray Lady
considers herself to have more “face” to lose even than the Administration if she can’t fess us to the “changing realities” of this Bemghazi affair.


44 posted on 11/27/2012 8:03:14 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: YankeeReb

Yankee Reb, we live in a world of fiction which the Nazis
and Communists, Alice in Wonderland (”whatever I say three times is true”) and the great George Orwell could only dream about. The objective truth about ANYTHING has receded into the mists deep within the forest, and gets harder and harder to locate, and the world is full of even MORE people who don’t have the tools or inclination to venture into the forest.The reason the NYT continues to push the lie of the video is clear to me—they are pushing the same lie they helped “validate” 10 weeks ago precisely BECAUSE the Administration has moved past it.In a sense the Old Gray Lady
considers herself to have more “face” to lose even than the Administration if she can’t fess us to the “changing realities” of this Bemghazi affair.


45 posted on 11/27/2012 8:04:53 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: SeekAndFind
...arrest for violating his supervised release on a fraud conviction

Is practicing his freedom of speech a violation of that supervised release?

46 posted on 11/27/2012 8:35:54 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: MestaMachine
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula speaks --- odd article we missed ping

BTW: (no thread yet for the following article)--- [Mark Basseley Youssef]

Egypt court sentences 8 to death over prophet film

your thoughts?

47 posted on 11/28/2012 9:10:20 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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