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Everyone asks who will be this generation's Reagan.

Perhaps a better question is who will be this generation's Atwater?


1 posted on 11/24/2012 10:47:37 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

I miss Atwater. He was a genius.


2 posted on 11/24/2012 10:49:58 AM PST by Thebaddog (Obama won, we lost)
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To: Bratch

Lots of truth here.

Unless things significantly change within the GOP power structure, they will repeat 2012 with Jeb Bush.


4 posted on 11/24/2012 10:53:31 AM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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My perception could be wrong, but I don’t think Romney ran THAT bad of a campaign.

Obama lost lots of support from 2008, Romney gained some. It was not enough. Obama still had a huge minority vote.

But I didn’t see a terrible Romney campaign. He was pretty aggressive, he didn’t back down, he romped in the first debate, held his own in the others.

If I want to Monday morning quarterback, I’d say that lull before the GOP convention, they needed to go more negative on Obama as Obama was “defining” Romney to many people in the BG states.


5 posted on 11/24/2012 10:54:00 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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They don’t fight back, that’s why they lose

Clinton???

Obama???

Talk about warts....sheesh, what targets to go after and GOP wants to play nice


6 posted on 11/24/2012 10:54:30 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: Bratch
Interesting that this is exactly what Rush Limbaugh has been saying for some time now-- That "the consultants" not only have no real take on the electorate and give crummy advice, they have no stake in who wins or loses because they get paid either way.

As for mechanics, I repeat from another thread, the largest radio station in Cleveland was unable to secure a morning drive-time interview with even one republican spokesperson, much less Ryan or Romney, with the largest listening audience in the key state of Ohio waiting to hear. By contrast, the DNC was calling them every day with a new person available to be interviewed.

7 posted on 11/24/2012 10:55:40 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Karl Rove wanted Romney as the nominee. Then Rove stuttered and stammered his boring statistics all over TV until even Republicans could not stand to listen to him. Rove sure did not help Romney.


8 posted on 11/24/2012 10:55:40 AM PST by abclily
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To: Bratch

Bill Whittle had a very excellent observation about the culture.
Combine it with the culture involved in http://vimeo.com/52009124
and you probably have the complete answer.

People need to be aware! We spent years fighting communism and then America unwittingly elects one!

It will take years to unwind the GLOBAL damage of the marxo muslim who slithered his way (with the aid of the knowing democrats) into OUR white house .


9 posted on 11/24/2012 10:56:10 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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As I look back, I think the major problem was that ALL REPUBLICANS thought that Barry Benghazi was toast so they didn’t need to campaign. Here in Arizona, ‘RAT ads were at least 100 to one. The ads were nothing but solid mud and feces and the goobers in the GOP put up no response or defense against these “ads”. With the exception of Flake’s senatorial campaign, nobody responded to the mudslinging against them. I would not have even known who was running to be my representative had not Ann Kirkpatrick spent a small fortune on mudslinging ads against him. One after another, 24/7.


11 posted on 11/24/2012 10:57:29 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Criminal defense lawyers won't have the Twinkie to kick around anymore.)
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12 posted on 11/24/2012 10:58:26 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Bratch

The incredibly dense electorate and the propaganda from the MSM is the reason republicans lost.


13 posted on 11/24/2012 10:58:26 AM PST by cruise_missile
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I agree. The Washington insiders are blind to America. They sit in Washington Bars after hours and read the Washington Post daily. They have lost reality.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 10:59:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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Sorry , acknowledging the communism/marxism will allow you to identify and solve maybe almost half of the problem, another large component is his islamic heritage and capacity to lie.

Marxo-muslim.

Everything that is antithetical to America sits in the White House today.

Take the time, watch the vid.


15 posted on 11/24/2012 11:01:08 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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We got beat. The Democrats had something to do with it, just as the Yankees had something to do with Lee’s defeat at Gettysburg. Our consultants weren’t the problem.

To the extent there was something significantly wrong with our side, it was the candidates. Romney was the only major figure in the race once Perry fizzled, and Romney simply could not exploit the No. 1 issue of Obamacare because of his support of an almost identical single-payer medical insurance plan in Massachusetts.

If our nominee has to run away from our best issue, we gotta problem.


16 posted on 11/24/2012 11:01:49 AM PST by Thud
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To: okie01

ping


18 posted on 11/24/2012 11:03:31 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Bratch; newgeezer

Are the cheaters in swing states the fault of the “Republican Establishment”?


26 posted on 11/24/2012 11:12:18 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Not voting against multiple ObamaPhoneWoman votes anymore.)
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Right on. Worse than the Undocumented victor.

And Extortion-Care continued as “Replacers”

Life stealers, thiefs.


28 posted on 11/24/2012 11:17:11 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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I wish there were a rule that said whenever a campaign consultant loses, they are barred from getting any new contracts for X number of years. This bs of allowing two and three times losers to continue to feed at the campaign cash trough has to end.


29 posted on 11/24/2012 11:17:11 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Bratch
While I think voter fraud and media support for Obama were the two major factors in the campaign, Caddell makes some excellent points here.

Since Ronald Reagan(who was disliked and used by the Republican establishment by the way) the Republicans have refused to nominate a single candidate who cared about average Americans or could relate to average Americans. Republicans have let the media and the Washington elites destroy any good candidates and have run one bad wishy washy establishment type after another. GHW Bush, Dole, GW Bush, McCain and Romney have all cared only about the Washington establishment and have neglected Reagan Democrats and the others who provided the landslides of the 1980’s. Pat Buchanan, Sarah Palin and others who related to average Americans were back-stabbed and thrown out of the party.

Pat Caddell managed to get Jimmy Carter the Democrat nomination and the presidency. Though Pat might regret it today he got an incompetent elected. It took four years for people to figure it out. Pat Caddell understands how to win elections.

His point about Republicans treating donors as dupes is particularly insightful. The Republican establishment tries to get money from people they don't like and have no intention helping in any way. And still people are dumb enough to donate.

32 posted on 11/24/2012 11:20:41 AM PST by detective
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I’ve voted exclusively my entire voting life for GOP candidates, never deviating a single time. But it’s clear to me that the Party, which I was drawn to during the Reagan era, is just downright defective in all areas. It makes me nauseated, what’s become of the Republican Party.

I’m left champing at the bit for a conservative third-party option. Preferably a “Tea Party” spearheaded by Palin.


33 posted on 11/24/2012 11:22:55 AM PST by greene66
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I predict Caddell will love this:
www.gone2012book.com


38 posted on 11/24/2012 11:31:13 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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