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1 posted on 11/24/2012 3:57:19 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Liberals always like to think of themselves as noble
Only if they are looking down at the masses.


2 posted on 11/24/2012 3:59:47 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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Actually Bill, it was the success of the Roman Army and Roman Law in making Rome incredibly rich in terms of loot being brought back from foreign lands as well as slaves swamping the Empire's core area ~ that left EVERYONE unemployed!

Rather than give up loot and slaves, the Roman elites undertook a massive social welfare system for Roman citizens.

The poor would have been happier to have had things as they had been before the slaves and the loot ~ living on the farm, raising grapes, vegetables, pigs and chickens ~ almost every man having had a jab at being part of the local constabulary ~ and maybe even qualifying for voting.

Alas, bringing in slaves destroyed every incentive.

Rome had a dilemma ~ much like our own which is caused by automation, computerization, robotics and improved work methods ~ we can give these things up and have a stable neo-iron age social order, or we can continue to build the machinery for a more secure, and different, future. But along the way everybody's gotta' get fed.

I'm never sure if bill o'reilly thinks eating is a good practice for those who earn less money than him.

3 posted on 11/24/2012 4:16:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

The geographics of the vote can't be dismissed from this conversation.

Cities voted for Obama
Rural America for Romney

It is the Cities imposing their politics on rural America.

The Cities that can't administrate them selves responsibly are in charge of rural America also.

4 posted on 11/24/2012 4:25:51 AM PST by jcon40
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The problem has been defined down to the molecule. SO what is the solution? How do those of us that understand the inevitable end of this trajectory change it?


6 posted on 11/24/2012 4:39:09 AM PST by Makana
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But what about motivation? How can you assign entitlements as a voting factor?

Take a (well armed) drive... you know where to go, and just look. Oh, don't bother going before noon, they are mostly nocturnal...

7 posted on 11/24/2012 4:50:18 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Kaslin

The other part of this problem is the stifling of innovation. Build a better mousetrap today, and those who will beat a path to your door are likely to be serving you papers on behalf of the mice, or a grievance form on behalf of the exterminators’ union. The so called progressives do more to protect the status quo than any so called ‘stodgy’ businessman ever did


8 posted on 11/24/2012 5:17:04 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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9 posted on 11/24/2012 6:36:23 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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Some people say there’ll never be a breakup, but I don’t know. I can’t see almost fifty percent of the population, conservatives, compliantly agreeing to a fully socialist state...which is where we’re heading. Something has to give.


13 posted on 11/24/2012 7:49:48 AM PST by driftless2
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We can't let the elderly and children suffer because they don't have resources.

Are the elderly suffering because they "don't have resources," or because of a lifetime of feckless decision-making? Are children suffering because of a lack of "resources," or because they have ignorant, self-centered biological progenitors instead of responsible parents?

If bad choices don't have the consequence of personal suffering, you get a proliferation of people repeatedly making bad choices.

16 posted on 11/25/2012 4:15:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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