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A red state-blue state divorce plan: Secessionists, here's how some of us want to divide the country
The Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune ^ | November 23, 2012 | Paul Vandevelder

Posted on 11/23/2012 6:42:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

We in the blue states hear from the talking heads on Fox News and MSNBC that many of you in the red states are so distressed about the outcome of the elections that you would like to secede from the Union. Now, it seems that at least six of you -- Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and North Carolina -- have submitted enough signatures (25,000) on petitions to the White House website to merit a formal response, with more petitions on the way.

We wish you the best of luck with this. We feel your pain. If we can speak frankly, it's been coming for a long, long time. The question now is: What's next?

First, we're happy to report that most people here in Oregon, Washington and California think you're really on to something. This marriage has run its course. Too many niggling little things built up over time, driving us all crazy. So let's just stop. It's time to divvy up the china and draft a property settlement. In the spirit of fairness and goodwill, we propose the following as a starting point.

We'll keep the West Coast, Nevada and Hawaii, New York, the rest of the Northeast and all the other states that turned blue on election night. You guys get Texas, Mississippi, the rest of the Confederacy and all the other states that turned red on election night. Alaska can do whatever it wants. It does what it wants anyway.

One caveat here. We've been asked by the citizens of Austin, Texas, to give them sanctuary, so we'll keep Austin as a territorial protectorate, along with Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and Samoa, and you can have Key West...

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KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; secede; secession
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Key West is gayer than a Maypole, no thanks.
1 posted on 11/23/2012 6:42:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even though this one is a spoof, the idea has a lot of merit. The country is on the verge of collapse anyhow, and it might be best to break it up before the Chinese lay claim to the ruins of the whole place.


2 posted on 11/23/2012 6:45:12 PM PST by madprof98
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blue states my butt. Most of those are red too.


3 posted on 11/23/2012 6:46:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: madprof98

You’re sure it’s a spoof?


4 posted on 11/23/2012 6:48:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The joker author thinks he’s being so funny and sarcastic, but does he realize just how many tens of millions of us would take a separate country that consists of the former Confederate states, Texas, and the red states of the Midwest and Upper Midwest?? This blue state prisoner says please bring it on! I’ll relocate in a heartbeat, and I’m one of those pesky “makers” instead of a “taker”.


5 posted on 11/23/2012 6:48:53 PM PST by rockvillem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually all we need to do is respect the tenth amendment. then red states and blue states can live the way they want. But if we must split up, the only fair way would be by county. The red counties would take almost everything, and the democrats can have the various blue city states engulfed in a sea of red states.


6 posted on 11/23/2012 6:51:14 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To the Commie Prick who wrote this POS!: Just refer to yourself as the Communist States,...you’ve forever destroyed the idea of the color blue as comforting! As for the red states, Just refer to us as the Freedom and Liberty States! And by the way, Minnesota can shove its Obama bumper stickers right up it’s filthy fag Commie ass!


7 posted on 11/23/2012 6:52:46 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: cripplecreek
Blue states my butt. Most of those are red too.

Exactly. Look at the county-by-county electoral map. Most of IL will be ours, for example.

8 posted on 11/23/2012 6:53:19 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Haughty Yankee SOB can kiss my Rebel Ass. Is it any wonder why the South tried to depart this “glorious” union the first time? Who wants to be in the same country as these jerks.


9 posted on 11/23/2012 6:57:16 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rockvillem

Separation into autonomous regions is no joke, of which the author has not a clue. Autonomous governance need not be geographic. In the 21st century, technology can enable separations that need not be organized around existing, old state boundaries. It oculd be done, literally, at the level of each person. Even more importantly, I reject secession 100 percent and unequivocably. Americans already have a governing system unmatched in excellence. It is only the left that has, since the 1920s, wanted to depart from the American way. Let them sequester themselves in their urban enclaves and run their government the way they want. Then, maybe, they can stop trying to run my life and live off the great accomplishments of Americans.


10 posted on 11/23/2012 6:58:39 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: rockvillem

Separation into autonomous regions is no joke, of which the author has not a clue. Autonomous governance need not be geographic. In the 21st century, technology can enable separations that need not be organized around existing, old state boundaries. It oculd be done, literally, at the level of each person. Even more importantly, I reject secession 100 percent and unequivocably. Americans already have a governing system unmatched in excellence. It is only the left that has, since the 1920s, wanted to depart from the American way. Let them sequester themselves in their urban enclaves and run their government the way they want. Then, maybe, they can stop trying to run my life and live off the great accomplishments of Americans.


11 posted on 11/23/2012 6:58:39 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The county thing ain’t going to work. It is state by state, sorry but if you live in a blue state you will have to vote with your feet.


12 posted on 11/23/2012 6:59:12 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think that folks who want secession need to get real. That's just not in the cards. When secession didn't work in the 1860's, some of the folks who wanted out moved to Southern Brazil and became Confederados.

To this day, the Confederados proudly celebrate their heritage.

Isn't that better than sitting around whining about the United States and talking secession nonsense?

13 posted on 11/23/2012 6:59:18 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

80% of the counties in the US are Red. Without San Francicaco,LA and NYC, this is a red country.


14 posted on 11/23/2012 6:59:24 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah we need to give them Monroe, Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties


15 posted on 11/23/2012 7:00:51 PM PST by scottteng (Tax government employees til they quit and find something useful to do)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am confused, am I supposed to get divorced in a red state or a blue state?


16 posted on 11/23/2012 7:01:49 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: iacovatx

IMHO, if you’ve got dirty people living with you, you don’t cut the house in half, you clean house.


17 posted on 11/23/2012 7:03:00 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

That’s why I refuse to buy the red state blue state game. Its a liberal lie to hide their fear of what they know is true.

In fact when you get right down to the nitty gritty, even the large “blue” districts in places like Minnesota are more sparsely populated than liberal.


18 posted on 11/23/2012 7:03:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tau Food
When secession didn't work in the 1860's

Today is a brand new world, and the power structure has changed. What proof do you have that 'it's just not in the cards'?

People were saying that about rumblings in the CCCP in the late 70's.

/johnny

19 posted on 11/23/2012 7:04:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Revolution is Duty of the People

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5KJ2aD8F0


20 posted on 11/23/2012 7:06:35 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Gluteus Maximus

He who controls the Watersheds controls the Cities - - - .


21 posted on 11/23/2012 7:06:46 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
am I supposed to get divorced in a red state or a blue state?

Doesn't matter. If you are from Arkansas, she's still your sister. Old joke...

/johnny

22 posted on 11/23/2012 7:06:58 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about they keep blue counties.


23 posted on 11/23/2012 7:06:58 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New Jersey has areas that are very different from each other - most if it’s nice.

Aside from the political / union / crime / left wing / education / islamic / etc. / corruption machine it’s got great potential.


24 posted on 11/23/2012 7:10:15 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

>>Actually all we need to do is respect the tenth amendment. then red states and blue states can live the way they want.

Ding ding. We have a winner! That is exactly what we need to do. It wouldn’t take long before all the white guilt is drained from the blue states and then they’d start voting with their heads.


25 posted on 11/23/2012 7:10:22 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“most of it’s nice.”


26 posted on 11/23/2012 7:10:53 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Problem is it isn’t state vs state, it’s urban vs rural.

For example, NY is really quite “red”, except for concentrated pockets of “blue” which outvote them.


27 posted on 11/23/2012 7:11:33 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...think we’ll draw up the dividing lines thank you, and if you don’t like it, kiss the end of my pump 12 gauge... by the way, we keep the center right of all military, you keep center left, including code pink, all pacifists, gays, Michael Moore, the Obamas and the educational system...


28 posted on 11/23/2012 7:12:45 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Gluteus Maximus
Yup. The northern blue district on this map is deceptive because the upper half of it would be red if it weren't for the need of numbers to make a district. If not for Flint it would be a red district.
Photobucket

29 posted on 11/23/2012 7:13:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.
— Matthew 12:25

Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
— Luke 11:17
The scripture cannot be broken. (That’s John 10:35.)
30 posted on 11/23/2012 7:14:43 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

50% witty.


31 posted on 11/23/2012 7:16:05 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: WriteOn
How about they keep blue counties.

Let the blue counties form states and the red counties form states.

32 posted on 11/23/2012 7:19:19 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The secessionist thing is absurd.


33 posted on 11/23/2012 7:22:05 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Vince Ferrer

I like that. I live in the blue state of Washington, but my county is red.


34 posted on 11/23/2012 7:24:10 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nah, we'll go county by county red versus blue, and we'll control nearly all the water, mineral, raw material and energy resources, which we'll sell ya, at a slight markup, or ya can buy from Russia or China, your choice.

Then, we'll OK prisoner exchanges, we'll swap the entitled non producers trapped in our counties for your producers that you thought ya had trapped like rats.

You can have all the union bosses, and we'll keep what we earn AND our jobs.

But just to prove we have a heart, we won't imprison any of our murderers, rapists, pedophiles and violent thieves. We'll deport 'em to your side where they'll get the care they need. (That is, if they survive apprehension by our law abiding citizens who will be required to possess and carry arms.)

Yeah, I think this'll work out.

35 posted on 11/23/2012 7:25:58 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Today is a brand new world, and the power structure has changed. What proof do you have that 'it's just not in the cards'?

Yes, certainly the power structure has changed, especially as regards the federal government vis-a-vis the states, but I'm not sure that that power differential has shifted in favor of the states since the 1860's. Beyond that, there isn't a state in this country in which a majority want to quit the United States.

A Faint Sound of Dixie

I had never heard of these brave folks who went to Brazil. I have a lot of respect for them.

36 posted on 11/23/2012 7:26:06 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Old but updated.

Dear Blue States:

Well, imagine our relief that you’ve decided to allow US to secede so you can form some sort of bathing-optional commune headquartered in California. The money we’ll save in aspirin, now that we won’t have headaches from listening to your interminable whining, will be worth it to us alone.

We’ll finally be rid of you lazy, moping, latte-sucking Streisand fans.

But not so fast. You don’t get to take all the Blue States with you—just the Blue parts.

We hate to break it to you, but your Blue States aren’t actually “blue.” Mostly, they’re states full of Red counties with pockets of Blue urban blight in them, who vote Democratic in such numbers that if the same results came out of a Third World country—which, come to think of it, many of the “Blue” counties pretty much are—we’d think it was fraud and send some election observers from the UN.

The bottom line is that you don’t get all the Blue States. Those states have lots of towns and counties that would rather blow their dams and flood themselves out of existence rather than go with you. No, instead, you get the Blue Cities.

But wait…we really feel we owe you full disclosure on this exchange. This might come as an unpleasant surprise, but you don’t actually get the lower divorce and single-motherhood rates and all that other good stuff you think you’re going to snag. Those are the conditions that are actually found out in the Red counties—not in the Blue cities, and you can’t have them.

Instead you get the urban single moms, not the soccer moms; the drug addicts, not the doctors; the waiters, not the chefs. You get the fine service you’ve come to expect from the brutal and corrupt inner-city police departments. You get the abysmal literacy rates and schools that are more dangerous than most prisons. All in all, you get to take with you a public sector in most cities so unmanageable they make Mogadishu seem like a tidily run little municipality by comparison. (HE-LLO, DETROIT)

You get the labor union shakedown artists, “teachers” who can’t pass tests in their own subject, and city government leaders for whom graft, racial spoils systems, and outright theft are a way of life. They’re all very enthusiastic Blue voters, as you know, and we’re sure they’ll stampede their way to New California to start draining your wallets, wrecking your schools, and in general making a mess of your lives.

(And don’t come complaining back to us when socialist central planning does for “The New and Improved US of A” what it did for garden spots like East Berlin and Pyongyang. We’re putting a strict visa system into place once you all go.)

We, on the other hand, get those Red city suburbs and rural districts. You know, the ones with the good schools, the high property values, the quiet streets and the sheriffs and cops who don’t need to walk around armored up like they’re about to storm the Sunni Triangle.

Oh and don’t concern yourself with our agricultural capacity after all, they don’t call it “the breadbasket” for nothin’. We’ll keep right on producing the vast majority of wheat, corn, oats, rye, potatoes, soybeans, beef, chicken and pork.

We’ve always preferred a nice, unpretentious, frosty mug of brew anyway and hey, maybe you can make a salad with those pineapples, stem cells, and lettuce.

And don’t even think about keeping the National Parks, the wide open spaces, all those water resources, and all the rest of America’s natural splendor, since those are all pretty much located in Red counties.

Hell, we even get most of Oregon and Washington ...ain’t it ironic? You get the urban liberals in Portland and Seattle and their friends in important social organizations (like, say, drug-running street gangs) and we get the rest of the Northwest.

Ok by us; we’d be fools not to take you up on it.

Here’s how it will work; all of you Blue whiners, please feel free to look at a map of the electoral results county by county in each state, and take the people with you who’ve made it clear they’d like to go.

That means you get places like downtown Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, and we get to keep the rest of beautiful Pennsylvania, thanks.

You get to administer bloated public services to the violent, drug-addled, gunslinging populations of delightful inner-city sinkholes of poverty and corruption such as Miami, St. Louis,Atlanta and the ever-popular District of Columbia—which has been governed by liberals (and the occasional crackhead) for so long and so incompetently that any semblance of order has broken down (beyond the carefully guarded borders of your Georgetown bistros, natch) to the point where even the mayor once asked the President to have the city patrolled by National Guardsmen.

Lucky you, it’s all yours—enjoy it in good health, and don’t forget to wear your Kevlar...Blue “voters” up there in Northeast DC tend to be jumpy on the ol’ trigger finger.

In fact, all around our great nation, you get to keep all the Blue voters who’ve made urban war zones like downtown Detroit—a Blue bastion, of course—the proud showplaces they are today.

We get the rest of Blue states like Michigan and Wisconsin and Illinois and...well, frankly, just about every state in the Union with the exception of Hawaii and New England—and even there, we’ll just hang on to a couple of chunks of New Hampshire and Connecticut.

You’re especially more than welcome to Rhode Island, which will immediately set up some sort of money-laundering scheme and bilk the rest of you once it has been incorporated into whatever sort of muddle-headed utopia you’re trying to create.

The former mayor of Providence should be out of Federal prison in time to join your Politburo and help you get things set up—for a small consulting fee, of course

If you would please, take another look at the list of best beaches and notice what color states they are in. We’ll miss the Hawaiian beaches, but since long stretches of coastline from New Jersey down to Florida and yes, even in Southern California (including San Diego, thanks) are actually in Red counties, we’ll be fine.

Sure, we get the rednecks and holy rollers. But since you’re apparently willing to trade them for the gangs and psychopaths terrorizing your Blue cities, what can we say? You want the Crips and the Bloods in low riders raking your streets with automatic gunfire, and you’re offering us Bubba heading off to church in his pickup?

Hey, a deal’s a deal. Done.

True, you also get Manhattan, but darn the luck, you have to take the rest of the city, including the Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn too, as well as Long Island, which is enough to almost make us feel sorry for you (Almost.)

For our part, we’ll take most of the rest of gorgeous New York State, although you get the scam artists who infest the legislature in Albany.

So that’s the deal. You get the cities, with all the crime, crack mommies, and corruption you can stand.

And sure, you get many of the elite colleges too, with the professors who think that terrorists in Fallujah are freedom fighters and that the people who worked in the Twin Towers on 9/11 were no better than Nazis—forgive us for not lamenting over this loss.

We get the suburbs, the countryside, and all the other beautiful places that remain unspoiled by liberal hypocrisy and addle-brained social experimentation.

We’ll do an even split on the debt: We’ll live within our governmental means and wisely budget paying off ours in 7-10 years. You’ll have quadrupled yours by then.

And we’d like a favor, too: please keep your sky-high tax and crime rates, since we’re happy to have the corporations and jobs that continue to flee your Blue cities into our Red counties. It’s much appreciated, since our unemployment rates, to say nothing of our crime, single-parenting, and illiteracy rates, are far lower than yours.

Oh, and one last thing. We get the U.S. military, too. Did we mention that part? (You may have forgotten that they’re volunteers, and most are happy Red state voters.)

Not to worry, though, since we’re sure that Islamic fundamentalist terrorists will be more than happy to reach an accommodation with a society that embraces radical feminism, gay marriage, gun control, hostility to organized religion of any kind, and Salman Rushdie. Good luck with that.

But one day when some misogynist Saudi freak—who no doubt will sneak into your country by strolling over the northern border after a few years sucking on the Canadian welfare system you all admire so much—blows up a couple kilos of plutonium on Sunset Boulevard, go send Sean Penn to ask the French for help. We’ll be busy that day.

Sincerely,

The Red States

PS: You can keep the marijuana. You’re going to need it, since selling it is one of the last stable industries left in Blue counties.

RLTW


37 posted on 11/23/2012 7:27:28 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: RIghtwardHo

True but only a handful of brain damaged morons actually take it seriously.

If anything it plays right into the hands of guys like Soros who have a long history of breaking nations into manageable pieces.


38 posted on 11/23/2012 7:27:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

You forgot your sarcasm tag.


39 posted on 11/23/2012 7:27:50 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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To: madprof98
It's really not a spoof. One of the parties is getting so diametrically opposed to what our founding fathers planned and dreamed and the constitution they gave a once great nation with freedom and democracy. The parties no longer work out solutions to the nations problems but instead create even more, as we sink in the cesspool of degradation and corruption as our leaders fight bitterly, while one party wants to solve our problems while the opposing party tries to create even more. The bitter fighting will eventually lead to a civil war if this continues. The red states will be the counties of freedom and prosperity while the blue states will be the countries of socialism, parasites, and dispair. They will look at the red states with anger, jealousy and envy, demanding the red states give them their fair share. So begins the great civil war.
40 posted on 11/23/2012 7:29:32 PM PST by Vinylly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What if Canada secedes from the U.S.?


41 posted on 11/23/2012 7:30:48 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (yup)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left is giggling themselves silly with the idea of separation, but their understanding of history is shallow.

The Confederates were the slave states. The analogy in the modern context are the Democrat-controlled areas of the United States, where the powerful elite sit astride a mass of poor people. The wealthy of the Upper West Side are aligned with the poor of the Bronx and Brooklyn. The Confederates had actual slaves yoked to the state; the modern liberal elites have enslaved people to the state with the promise of free material goods in exchange for votes. Yes, the analogy is imperfect, but then history doesn’t repeat itself; only the themes of history repeat themselves.

Not that I would want CWII. A peaceful separation like the one between the Slovaks and the Czechs would be preferred. Maybe it’ll be like the breakup of the old Soviet Union - the left won’t have the stomach for a fight, and in a twinkling the original republic will evaporate. Maybe we’ll be less fortunate, with some horrific spots like Bosnia and other places like Slovenia peacefully parting the ways.

In any way, I see the left as the Confederates in this upcoming battle. They think they have everything they need for an easy victory. We’re the union - coming to the table disorganized, arguing among ourselves, unwilling to stop the opposition.

However, the issue is the same as it was back then. Either we live as free people, or we live enslaved to the state. We can’t have both ideologies in the same place.

God help us.


42 posted on 11/23/2012 7:34:19 PM PST by redpoll
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To: central_va

Any chance that a Constitutional amendment setting up the procedures for secession could be passed?

These people really don’t believe that this is serious. As one of the other posters reminded us from Scripture, a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. America cannot survive the current situation - especially because the goal of the left is to bring down the whole system by giving the makers’ stuff to the takers. The 47% are literally at war with most of the counties in this country. We can’t survive this.

If the counties that love America and the promise of freedom and justice - which, by definition, is that we reap what we sow - were allowed to be separate from the bloodsuckers trying to suck the life out of them, it would mean that the bloodsuckers would be on their own. We would be safe from them and they would have to figure out a way to survive trying to suck blood from a turnip.

What would be the easiest way to get an amendment passed?


43 posted on 11/23/2012 7:39:15 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: central_va

Bump.


44 posted on 11/23/2012 7:39:33 PM PST by GVnana
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To: bunkerhill7

Canadians.....they’re ruthless.


45 posted on 11/23/2012 7:40:15 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Secession will never fly:Photobucket
46 posted on 11/23/2012 7:41:09 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: redpoll
The left is giggling themselves silly with the idea of separation,

I don't know why, they were petitioning for the same thing in 04. Lots of FReepers have convenient memory loss but I haven't forgotten.
47 posted on 11/23/2012 7:41:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: military cop
Great post.

RLTW

48 posted on 11/23/2012 7:44:18 PM PST by TADSLOS (LOSING BIG- The GOP legacy.)
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To: Doc Savage

I know it — I will NEVER go by the leftists’ terminology and how they redefined the conversation, changing conservative areas into “red” states. Sorry, but that is a Communist color through and through. In their Brave New World, they get to dictate the words we use and just about everything else, but I will never refer to conservative areas that way.

And the donkeys do need to call themselves what they really are, Bolsheviks/Communists.


49 posted on 11/23/2012 7:45:41 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The blue staters only get the sliver of land on the west coast that is blue. The rest of the west coastal states need to be split east/west to allow the red state counties to join their red interior bretheren.


50 posted on 11/23/2012 7:48:07 PM PST by marsh2
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