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The Looters Are in Control
Zero Hedge ^ | Rick Ackerman

Posted on 11/19/2012 7:08:33 PM PST by Perdogg

And now it’s time for Mr. Obama to start paying for all those votes by reaching deep into our pockets. If you intend to avoid paying your “fair share,” however, please take note: There will be few places to hide. For a gimlet-eyed view of what may lie in store for taxpayers and citizens of all political persuasions during the next four years, ponder the guest commentary below, from Wayne Siggard, a regular in the Rick’s Picks forum. RA]

The election was all about new math: 47 = 51. The foresight and genius of the Founders knew no bounds. Ben Franklin said, “Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” The trumpets have sounded. The heralds have announced the awakening of the masses to that reality. The greatest and most free nation the world has ever known has just sold its birthright for a mess of pottage; or, at least, the promise of an Obama phone. The takers have voted to take control over the producers.

Everyone will now get a fair shot — except that those who work in government and those who take government welfare will get a fairer shot. Obama knows that you didn’t build that company. You didn’t live frugally and save more money than your neighbor while they spent theirs on drugs or riotous living. He knows this because he didn’t get anything without government assistance — affirmative action put him ahead of more qualified people who earned a spot that he took, just like Elizabeth Warren. You couldn’t possibly have gotten anything on your own merit or hard work.

"A claim for material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers." – Friedrich von Hayek

Von Mises said that full government control of all activities of the individual is virtually the goal of both national parties. Have you ever tried to drill an oil or gas well? Have you ever tried to build a house or commercial building? Have you ever tried to manufacture and sell a product? The International Building Code (IBC) increases in size, restrictions and requirements every year. Why? Because a bureaucracy needs to expand to justify its existence.

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." – Lord Acton

Have you ever experienced the disdain and contempt of a bureaucrat whose permission you sought? It used to be that their power to grant a license or permit was retribution for their pay being less than that of the private sector. Now, you get to pay them 50% more than you would get for the same job, and the disdain has not decreased. Firemen, police officers, and military personnel can retire as young as 38, many making over $100,000 per year if they work until 50, and many can take another job and collect another pension on top of the first. Meanwhile, according to the Census Bureau, the average middle class family’s income has decreased $4,019 during the Obama years, to $50,964. More than half of the lifeguards in Newport Beach, CA, make over $150,000 per year and can collect more than $100,000 in pension benefits starting under 50 years of age.

So, What’s Coming?

That paradigm of preternatural prestidigitation, the Federal Reserve Bank, will continue its policy of zero percent interest. The big banks will mask their insolvency with free money from the Feds. Greedy speculators and fools who overspent on housing will have their mistakes paid for by those taxpayers who had the foresight to save and invest wisely. Obama bundlers and other insiders will continue to get billion dollar investments from the government, sucking valuable capital from the private sector. The official inflation rates will miraculously stay low while you are paying 100% more for gasoline and food.

"History is largely a history of inflation, usually inflations engineered by governments for the gain of governments." – Friedrich von Hayek

Foreign nations are no longer purchasing U.S. government bonds. The largest purchaser is the Federal Reserve Bank. In other words, the government is printing money from thin air. In 1970, you could go to Las Vegas and buy a silver dollar for one paper dollar. It now costs around $35. A mansion behind the Beverly Hills Hotel sold for $200,000. It resold in 2004 for $16 million. A house in Flintridge, CA, sold for $115,000. Its current value is $4.5 million. The base price for a Corvette was $5192. It is now $49,600, a comparative bargain. What you could buy for $1 million in 1970 now takes $36 million. Senator Everett Dirksen in the 1960s is reputed to have remarked,” a billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon we’re talking real money.” You can now add three zeros. The bottom line is that if you are collecting 0.15% interest on your CD, you are losing real purchasing value of at least 10%, and that rate will be accelerating in the next four years. Carlo Ponzi was a hopeless naïf compared to our elected officials.

Harry Reid Has a Plan

Harry Reid already has a bill on his desk which requires that all pension plans (except for the unions, of course), 401Ks, and IRAs be converted to annuities from the government. This pile of cash represents the largest pile of readily available cash in the world right now. The money will be gone as soon as it hits the government’s account, and you will be left with empty promises. There is no money, only a printing press.

Capital export controls will be enacted. You will not be able to get your money out of the country. Already you can no longer open a bank account in Switzerland unless you have over $30 million because the reporting requirements are too onerous for a smaller account. All requests to Switzerland for visas from Americans will be suspended. History will be repeated (shocking, I know), and all gold in private hands will be confiscated. The Republicans will cave, the tax rates will rise, and anyone making more than the insider politicians and government employees will encounter ever-increasing marginal tax rates.

Payoffs for votes will be made. Affirmative action requirements will be increased in every field of endeavor. Women’s abortions and contraceptives will be free. Regulations will stop the advent of fracking and the boom in oil and natural gas will come to an abrupt halt. Payments to environmental groups for lawyer’s fees will expand exponentially. Government-controlled lands with oil and gas potential will be declared wilderness or national monuments, just like Grand Staircase-Escalante in Utah. I could go on for another ten pages, but , in a nutshell, the message from Mr. Obama is, “You lost.”

And finally, Israel has recognized that Mr. Obama will offer no succor. Before the end of January, they will raid Iran. Gasoline will reach $7 per gallon, and voila, solar and wind energy will be competitive. No matter that your thermostat is set at 40 degrees, if you can get fuel or power.

The looters are in control. Set your alarms.


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1 posted on 11/19/2012 7:08:35 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I must have missed it when I retired from the Marines. $150,000, in my dreams.


2 posted on 11/19/2012 7:19:00 PM PST by gunner03
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To: Perdogg
The looters are in control. Set your alarms.

And keep your powder dry.

Line.
Sand.
Drawn.

3 posted on 11/19/2012 7:24:19 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Perdogg

Rick Ackerman is a very sharp market analyst, with an interest in gold and precious metals stocks. His specialty is what he calls the “hidden pivot” in chart analysis. I haven’t subscribed to his service, but I’ve read quite a lot of his work.

He’s not usually into politics. It sounds as if he must be feeling pretty desperate, to write this.


4 posted on 11/19/2012 7:33:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Perdogg

Just another day in paradise.


5 posted on 11/19/2012 7:38:14 PM PST by Gator113 (WHO gave the order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?)
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To: Perdogg
Obama is an evil communist dictator.

Every day these they pass more laws and regulations that take away our freedom.

They have even banned light bulbs for the government funded hoax of goball warming:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/first_they_came_for_our_watt_bulbs_4UHGL0Mnmp76P8n9UO152I

This shows socialism doesn't work.

Every person I have talked to isn't even aware that they are banning lightbulbs. Soon they'll want to check our houses to see if we have them and haven't changed to those mercury laden curly bulbs.

democrats/communists have to be stopped.

6 posted on 11/19/2012 7:47:45 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Perdogg

Most of the people who voted for obama don’t have 401ks. And many who voted for Romney don’t have any either. So, if the government said “We’re going to take your 401k and you’ll be better off” there are millions who will say “Great! I don’t have one so I don’t care.” And many people who have them will say “Okay, I trust the government.”


7 posted on 11/19/2012 7:48:52 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Perdogg

Let me see if I can make the paradigm easy to understand ...

Its now the Makers VS. the Takers.


8 posted on 11/19/2012 7:49:37 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: R0CK3T

Correct


9 posted on 11/19/2012 7:50:47 PM PST by Broker ( sojourner)
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To: Perdogg

Buy a small patch of farmland and grow your own food.

Yeah, that takes a ton of work but the value of your sweat is plummeting right now. Make something real from it.

After that it’s just ammunition and a good water supply.

See you after the shooting dies down.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 7:56:21 PM PST by DNME (It's never over. Never.)
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To: Terry Mross

I don’t get the 401k scare. Granted, government will confiscate if the mood strikes. But they’ll take anything because they’re sluts. Why are we so particularly defensively about 401ks, anyway, when they started openly and deliberately stealing retirement for our own good over 70 years ago? It’s as if they banned fruit, then legalized apples, and now we’re frightened they’ll take away our apples. What about the rest of the fruit? Should’ve held the line for it all instead of apples alone.

Besides, if they can’t get 401k money directly they’ll inflate it into their coffers.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 8:02:27 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Broker

Just look at that map, all that Red area is transferring their wealth and property to the Blue to pay for their self voted entitlements.

At some point the Red will figure out what’s going on then its going to ge ugly IMO.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 8:03:43 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Perdogg

No place to hide?

http://www.LivingInThePhilippines.com

http://travel.cnn.com/singapore/life/five-reasons-why-expats-love-singapore-550132


13 posted on 11/19/2012 8:24:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Tublecane

I just wish I would have spent it on hookers and booze instead of saving it all those years.


14 posted on 11/19/2012 8:27:30 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Perdogg; All

Prepare. Persevere.


15 posted on 11/19/2012 8:30:09 PM PST by PGalt
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To: rurgan

“They have even banned light bulbs for the government funded hoax of goball warming”

That was pure GOP. Fred Upton put it in the bill, and Bush signed it.


16 posted on 11/19/2012 8:41:40 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When the US goes, there will be no restraint from China. I wouldn’t want to be a neighbor...
17 posted on 11/19/2012 8:47:59 PM PST by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Singapore? Not exactly a free country if you disagree with the
Minister Mentor..


18 posted on 11/19/2012 9:08:36 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obsteperous gentleman..)
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To: DesertRhino
Now that Obama stole the election we now live in a communist dictatorship ( what people always came to America to get away from).It's the communist piece of crap Obama that is destroying our freedom and our country . It was Obama , democrats and the media who passed socialist Obamacare with which the government now will control every aspect of our healthcare and so controls the individual and all of us. Obamacare killed freedom and tipped us into becoming a socialist county and Not a single Republican voted for the socialist Obamcare but I'm sure you will all try to blame Republicans for that too instead of focusing on the threat Obama and the democrat party who are evil anti-American communists nothing of you which can claim Bush was)Yeah sure everything is Bush's fault to you( I bet you think Bush wrote Obamacare and the 100,000 of pages of laws and more government regulations democrats have imposed on us). I can tell you that if Obama and democrats do not get thrown out of power AND we remove all of these government regulators (including the EPA and IRS) that we will be slaves in decaying socialist hell hole the likes of we have never seen , a huge public housing project at best .
19 posted on 11/19/2012 9:42:56 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Perdogg

I took a Thanksgiving meal today to a family having some trouble.

Conservatives believe in helping the poor, but NOT helping them STAY POOR!!!


20 posted on 11/19/2012 9:49:21 PM PST by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: rurgan

I have a stockpile of bulbs. And a glock. As we say in Texas “come and take it”.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 10:25:26 PM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: rurgan

I have a stockpile of bulbs. And a glock. As we say in Texas “come and take it”.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 10:25:26 PM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Perdogg

gas is going over 10 bucks a gallon, easy. 7 is waaaaahaaaay too optimistic.


23 posted on 11/19/2012 10:53:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: R0CK3T

that also was what the election was too. and the takers stole’ that, too.


24 posted on 11/19/2012 10:55:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Perdogg; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Harry Reid already has a bill on his desk which requires that all pension plans (except for the unions, of course), 401Ks, and IRAs be converted to annuities from the government. This pile of cash represents the largest pile of readily available cash in the world right now. The money will be gone as soon as it hits the government’s account, and you will be left with empty promises. There is no money, only a printing press. “

I don't see this coming up for a vote even if it really exists. This is like all those Fairness Doctrine posts that appeared here exactly 4 years ago that were going to take Rush off the air. These funds are invested in private companies so the government cant just ‘convert’ them to government debt.

Yes the national debt is being funded by the Federal reserve but notice that our savior Romney NEVER mentioned that ONCE in his campaign.
Nor did he say the entitlement trust funds were just paper backed by nothing but future borrowing.

25 posted on 11/19/2012 11:28:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

I agree with your take here. Logically, you can’t talk all these funds out of the stock market. It would take a massive hit.

In 2011, the total 401k savings in the U. S. was $11.6 trillion. The total retirement market assetts were $17.9 trillion.

They’d have to do this over a period of time if they were going to do it, and there would be holy hell to pay.

Start screwing around with people’s savings, and watch what happens. It won’t be pretty.

See page 2.

http://www.ici.org/pdf/2012_factbook.pdf


26 posted on 11/19/2012 11:50:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Perdogg
The election was all about new math: 47 = 51

No, under the new math 50 = 57.

27 posted on 11/19/2012 11:52:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne
RE :”I agree with your take here. Logically, you can’t talk all these funds out of the stock market. It would take a massive hit.
In 2011, the total 401k savings in the U. S. was $11.6 trillion. The total retirement market assetts were $17.9 trillion.
They’d have to do this over a period of time if they were going to do it, and there would be holy hell to pay.”

The whole idea is silly.

If the government were even thinking about this they would have eliminated the tax deferment for these private investment savings for new contributions unless it was the Fed debt.

If they are scared to do that or don't want to then how can they be just taking it all? AS if that would be legal anyway.

28 posted on 11/20/2012 12:35:40 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs
These funds are invested in private companies so the government cant just ‘convert’ them to government debt.

That's undoubtedly what they thought in Argentina, too, right before the government did exactly that.

Your life's savings and mine are no more than blips on a computer screen, and when unscrupulous men point guns at the heads of bank executives, those little blips are sent wherever the men with guns say they go.

-ccm

29 posted on 11/20/2012 1:09:14 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay
“...and when unscrupulous men point guns at the heads of bank executives...”

They can put away the guns. I imagine Obama already has a speech written up:

“After the recent stock market crash, senior citizens relying on their investments for income saw them disappear. What they thought were sound investments were risky schemes - propagated by folks focused only on their own greed. Therefore, by Executive Order, I have created the Affordable Retirement Fund Act that will safeguard retirement funds by using only government approved investment agents, and investing in only safe, approved and inspected funds and companies upon their review by governmental personnel. In this modern age, in the most advanced country in the world, no person should go in want in their Golden Years due to the violent and unpredictable swings of investing in the free market."

30 posted on 11/20/2012 1:28:22 AM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: DoughtyOne

But by monetizing the debt they ARE “doing it” and they are doing it RIGHT NOW!


31 posted on 11/20/2012 1:33:33 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ccmay; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
RE :”These funds are invested in private companies so the government cant just ‘convert’ them to government debt”.
....
That's undoubtedly what they thought in Argentina, too, right before the government did exactly that. “

Oh brother!

Well if Ryan, Bohner and the rest of the R house are going to help Obama confiscate our retirement savings in private companies (the silly idea you are claiming), then why the hell did we want Republicans to take the house?

Hell, Pelosi didn't do that in 2009 when Dems had complete control. At least if she was in charge Dems would be getting the blame,.

Be serious. I remember exactly four years ago dozens of posts here claiming Obama was going to shut down talk radio, 'Hush Rush', but somehow he managed to stay on the air to tell us all the polls were rigged and Romney would win.

32 posted on 11/20/2012 1:36:44 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Singapore does not love expats.
Unless you are very very wealthy. PV 9personal value) over US$25 million.
They, Singapore, has very tight control over visas, residency permits and citizenship allowances.
Unless you got the money.

Now Spain is turning around a bit....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-19/spanish-casa-and-residency-es-su-casa-200000
33 posted on 11/20/2012 1:38:46 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: rurgan

I stock piled enough incandescent light bulbs to last till I die. I have one of those curly q light bulbs that Hubby bought. It has burned out.

I don’t know what to do with it, so I just laid it on the counter where we see it every day. I asked Hubby if he would please refrain from purchasing anymore until we have figured out what to do with it.LOL


34 posted on 11/20/2012 1:46:04 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sickoflibs
Yes the national debt is being funded by the Federal reserve but notice that our savior Romney NEVER mentioned that ONCE in his campaign.

Both parties benefit from the Fed's war on savings. The economy will continue its decline as long it is safer to speculate than to invest for the long run with a stable currency.

35 posted on 11/20/2012 2:05:39 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Tublecane

Well, we all knew that Social Security had problems. A little history on how this all transpired:

As designed, it intentionally required a bunch of workers to pay a (premium) for Insurance(Old Age Survivors and Disability Insurance-OASDI)for the elderly who were not able to work or find a job during the Great Depression.

It was not a retirement system as much as it was insurance in case you couldn’t work. The insurance companies didn’t want to mess with the little individual policies for your average Joe anymore, they wanted to concentrate on more well to do clients.

A Republican Insurance Guy helped develop the original proposal. The Democrats fought it, cause the Union didn’t like it. The Railroad had a similar plan that went through Congress, and wound up at the Supreme Court. Congress has no authority to levy premiums, but they can tax. A few changes, and wahla it is all constitutional.

Had this Insurance continued as a private plan, the Insurance Actuaries would have determined for the industry changes that needed to be made to be viable: such as retirement age, premium adjustments, etc and changes would have been implemented as it went along. Congress didn’t make all these adjustments.

Fast Forward to the Reagan Era. So Reagan and Tip O’neil agreed that in order to “fix” it, the baby boomers would have to continue supporting those who were currently receiving checks, but would also need to contribute more in order to support their own “retirement” which was to be delayed by a few years.

Baby boomers were okay with that, but a bit skeptical that they would ever see a penny of that money. The IRAs seemed like a good way to reduce your taxes and help save for a scenario where the Social Security system was insolvent. then along came the 401k and company matching.

I prefer managing my own IRA/401k plan rather than Social Security. The privitization of Social Security was discussed during the Clinton years, but never really took off.

Just think, if all that money could have been invested during the 1990’s, most people would be better off today.

Any way, the government is not getting my IRA or 401K. I’ll take it and invest it in land, ammo, or food etc. As inflation heats up, you can sell the extra items to buy what you need or to pay taxes.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 2:31:16 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think Hungary and Argentina did just that, nationalized people’s retirement savings.


37 posted on 11/20/2012 2:54:00 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Terry Mross

Exactly right. The vast majority of people in this country have no to very limited retirement savings. It’s the next pot of gold for takers and haters.


38 posted on 11/20/2012 3:25:53 AM PST by gotribe
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To: Perdogg
And now it’s time for Mr. Obama to start paying for all those votes by reaching deep into our pockets.

Lastg night - my local TV station...


http://www.wthr.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7969455

39 posted on 11/20/2012 4:46:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: R0CK3T
Oh; we figgered it out alright; we've just not coalesced into a force to actually DO something other than bitch.
40 posted on 11/20/2012 4:50:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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41 posted on 11/20/2012 4:55:05 AM PST by jersey117
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To: R0CK3T

I doubt it, the red has already figured it out and does nothing.

People always want the solution to be peaceful, so they rely on going to the voting booth to correct the political ailment. That alone is why the left has gained so much ground.

The voting booth has been corrupted and the only recourse left would be very unpeaceful.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 4:59:16 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest

“The voting booth has been corrupted...”

I never thought I’d see Communist subversion succeed in the United States of America.

IMHO


43 posted on 11/20/2012 5:19:48 AM PST by ripley
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To: Newton

I’ll trade you a 5 gallon flush toilet for a case of 100 watt bulbs. I will even throw in an unrestricted shower head.


44 posted on 11/20/2012 5:27:01 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ripley

I was just saying the same thing to my husband this morning.

It was successful because the schools and media were instrumental.

What makes me sad is that many of the young people do not understand the misery they have set up for themselves in the coming years.

When they figure it all out, it will be too late and the cost to get out of it would be very high.


45 posted on 11/20/2012 5:34:36 AM PST by dforest
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To: Elsie

“we’ve just not coalesced into a force to actually DO something other than bitch.”

You got that right. Conservatives wouldn’t know how to organize a three-man protest against a local village council sidewalk tax. It’s pitiful watching these people bitch about the federal fascists taking over, and they’re too damn stupid to realize that conservatives and patriots now control 30 states. That’s up from 25 in 2010. They all wonder where the army and political forces are to take on Buckwheat and his commies, and the answer is staring them right in their faces.

They’re so myopic that they concentrate only on Washington and fail to notice that they have enough power now, if they organize, to completely crush the criminal fascist syndicate occupying Washington.

I’d bet my next paycheck that not one in 100 conservatives know that the Founders left us a blueprint to overthrow dictators, and it begins with organizing Committees of Safety, or some facsimile, in the states.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 7:05:06 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Tublecane

They will take the fund electronically, just like Aegentina did over 2 1/2 years ago. They hid behind “We have to pay off the country’s debt & everyone has to help”.

The didn’t touch UNION pensions or Public Employee pensions—only private money. Sooo- ‘everyone’ did NOT help-—only a portion of Argentina ‘helped’-—and got heavily burned in the process.

Now, 2 1/2 years later, after $69 BILLION was stolen there, Argentina is knocking on the door of bankruptcy again—and there is no more fund of private money to steal.

Some estimates are that there is $13-15 TRILLION in PRIVATE pensions & IRA’s, etc. That would put a huge dent in the USA debt payoff, but Obama will never pay back our loans. He will only spend more money- and a great deal of it will be spent on his private army so he can continue as King of the USA until he dies & then he will expect Michelle to take over-—also like Argentina has done. A husband & wife down there concocted a plan to have them each serve 2 consecutive terms, and then hand everything over to the other. Their laws say ‘2 CONSECUTIVE’ terms—not ‘2 TERMS—NO MORE, PERIOD’.

Husband did 2 terms. Wife got next 2 terms. So, after 4 terms in the same marriage, the stage was set for the Husband to take over again for another 2 terms in 2013.

OOOOPSS—he died in 2010, so the wife is trying to change the Argentina laws again to benefit her, so she can ‘stay Presidente’ forever.

Moving all this money into the Federal coffers will collapse the banks—Wall Street—Money Markets—everything.

I predict that the DOW will fall below 2000—if not more.

Such a collapse will trigger other countries to also teeter—and NO country will ever loan monty to the USA again.

This isn’t a threat—it is a fact.

Obama will take this country below the status of any country you can choose in Africa—which was his entire plan all along. He is ‘leveling the playing field’-—to the stanards of Somalia or Zimbabwe.

The media will not be exempt from trouble, either. They will run out of places to hide.

All those on Federal handout recipients will find their benefits will stop in the same blink of an electronic eye. Feral behavior will surface in about 15 minutes.

Lock and load—and keep your weapons handy.

This is all another reason why Obama wants to take all our guns.

Obama is on the path of a scorched earth policy—and Dirty Harry is willing to light the match and Pelosi is willing to pour on more fuel.


47 posted on 11/20/2012 7:58:20 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t see this coming up for a vote even if it really exists”””

So- we will get an Executive Order, instead, and Obama will blame the Republicans for ‘not helping erase the national cebt.....etc...etc.


48 posted on 11/20/2012 8:01:00 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Perdogg
I am worried about private property. We have an 80 acre tree farm in Oregon and I already have gotten some hints that 80 acres is more than we need, "don"t you think you should distribute some of that to others less fortunate?"

The most ironic part of that above statement is that Oregon has the most restrictive zoning laws in the nation and forbids division of my property. So some day they may come and take the whole thing.

You have to have a permit to drill a well on your land, you have to have a permit to hold surface water (a spring) on your property, as all the water belongs to the state. You have to have a permit to put up a pole barn, shop or God forbid a home. I have to have a permit to cut our trees or put in a pond or irrigation from that pond. Do we really own real property?

49 posted on 11/20/2012 8:53:41 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: dforest

“When they figure it all out, it will be too late...”

Maybe they will never figure it out because they think the situation they will be in is normal, and above all,
George Bush’s fault.

They will never blame those who will become their masters or the choices they made to place themselves in such positions but will consider it a direct result of someone else’s actions.

Maybe long periods of darkness are inevitable.

IMHO


50 posted on 11/20/2012 9:00:15 AM PST by ripley
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