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The Looters Are in Control
Zero Hedge ^ | Rick Ackerman

Posted on 11/19/2012 7:08:33 PM PST by Perdogg

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To: Tublecane

Well, I have no doubt that the government will lie, cheat, and steal. Nor do I doubt that they are good at it and have had lots of practice.


61 posted on 11/20/2012 8:48:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: central_va

Oooooo! Five gallon toilet!!! That’s gold!!! Don’t they still sell them in Canada? Wonder if I can smuggle one in via Mexico -cover it with a burka and they’ll let it right in......


62 posted on 11/20/2012 10:08:46 PM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: DB
When the US goes, there will be no restraint from China. I wouldn’t want to be a neighbor...

Someone mentioned the Philippines and their ex-military US expat community (which is quite large comparatively); the Filipinos are old friends, if not quite current, and the ties go back 114 years. I think the Flips will let you own a gun, but they can't protect you from China, and they have some China Quislings on the General Staff (one of them wrote some ChiCom propaganda a couple of years ago, about how all-that the PLA is).

Singapore is all Overseas Chinese, and Indonesia is in pretty much the same boat as Flipland and Malaysia: militarily weak, resource-rich, and already infiltrated with Chinese influence agents (remember Lippo Bank, anyone?).

You might have to run all the way to Oz (no guns, tho', thank you) or to India to find a power center capable of resisting the Chinese for more than 40 minutes. And the Chinese are already slipping a noose around India's skinny neck.

Most of the big countries in South America are run by Communists now -- Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil, not sure about Chile right now, but I think Peru is run by some sort of Leftists, Bolivia has their Left revolution (and talk about expropriating the North American silver miners) and Guevarist hero-caudillo "Evo" from a few years ago -- I think he's still there, but check your watch: in their first 120 years of existence, Bolivia had 126 permanent governments.

Right now Bolivia has a new gig: source country for hardscrabble Leftist-led rent-a-mobs of indigent Bolivian Indians being brought in, given (seized) land, (other people's) jobs, and money, and "settled" by the left-wing Kirchner dictatorship in Argentina .... and of course registered to vote right away. Any Argentine who complains about this process is called a "racist" by his government. Argentina seized retirement savings accounts four years ago.

Any of this sound familiar?

So if the agenda is to evade seizures by the Communizing Obama Regime and keep safe from an increasingly bullyboy China, things are looking awfully thin, guys.

Seizing private resources to feed disorderly state finances has been a favorite avocation of despotisms since the time of the Roman Revolution. Just condemn the guy, kill him, and take his property. Presto, financial stability. Egg, meet omelet.

63 posted on 11/20/2012 10:26:35 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: greeneyes

You can take burnt-out flourescents (big and little) to a building-supply outfit like Lowe’s or Home Depot. They have a dropoff you can use. Drop off your fluorescent when you check out with a cart of new incandescents! lol


64 posted on 11/20/2012 10:33:39 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: sickoflibs
I don't see this coming up for a vote even if it really exists.

Oh, really? How about if it got rolled into the "fiscal cliff" "statesmanship"?

Never let another Democrat-created crisis go to waste.

65 posted on 11/20/2012 10:44:08 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: ripley
Maybe long periods of darkness are inevitable.

When the Greek city-states screwed up and lost their freedom to Philip of Macedon's birdcatching diplomacy, they didn't recover their freedom for another 2160 years.

Let's see, 231 years of American freedom / 2100 years of serfdom and slavery, what sort of ratio would that work out to in our case?

66 posted on 11/20/2012 10:48:52 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
RE :” Oh, really? How about if it got rolled into the “fiscal cliff” “statesmanship”? Never let another Democrat-created crisis go to waste. “

The House GOP majority(now lame duck) has their hands all over that.

Specifically they passed those delayed spending cuts then spent almost a year complaining about them as if they had nothing to do with it.

On the tax cuts. The last R lame duck congress minority (mainly the Senate Rs) got those extended getting O to give in (which is what he wanted then) and if this House lame duck gives in to Dems the question will be “Why didn’t they just do it in late 2010 so Obama would NOT have had it as an election issue and the Republicans would?”

67 posted on 11/20/2012 11:23:37 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

“What sort of ratio would that work out to....”

Ten to one that one sees the shirt color that is chosen by the enforcers of social justice.

IMHO


68 posted on 11/21/2012 4:46:21 AM PST by ripley
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To: lentulusgracchus

Does that include those new bulbs with the mercury in them?


69 posted on 11/21/2012 5:13:53 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sickoflibs
The last R lame duck congress minority (mainly the Senate Rs) got those extended getting O to give in (which is what he wanted then) and if this House lame duck gives in to Dems the question will be “Why didn’t they just do it in late 2010 so Obama would NOT have had it as an election issue and the Republicans would?”

If the Dim appeal has been and will be, "Raise taxpayers' taxes so we can give you tax eaters more Free Stuff", then all you can do is fight the bribe the best you can and GOTV among your own.

But that's not an argument for caving as the forehand option. Give up the principle, and you might as well go home; you're not doing anything, and everybody knows it.

70 posted on 11/21/2012 8:31:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Windcatcher
If the SHTF, though, my first choice for an escape strategy is a mountaintop in the Phillipines.

Just make sure the mountain isn't conical, or your retirement might be, as Admiral Crowe once put it, "colorful, exciting, and short."

71 posted on 11/21/2012 8:34:24 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: greeneyes

Yes, it does — long tubes or short and curly, they’ll take all your old mercury bulbs.


72 posted on 11/21/2012 8:36:26 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: ripley
Ten to one that one sees the shirt color that is chosen by the enforcers of social justice.

? -- sorry, I don't get your drift. WAG would be, bright red, but still unsure of your meaning.

73 posted on 11/21/2012 8:39:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”But that's not an argument for caving as the forehand option. Give up the principle, and you might as well go home; you're not doing anything, and everybody knows it. “

The only problem is that is that is exactly what Obama did in late 2010 by accepting and signing extending all the tax cuts temporarily.

So that way not only couldn't the R nominee accuse O of raising those upper income taxes the cause of the economy problems, but Obama used that as an issue to beat Romney over the head endlessly with EVERY DAY. “That out-of -touch rich guy Romney is just protecting his rich buddies. We tried that and its not working. Why should you sacrifice when he is giving them even more and they are doing so good now?” was the O line.

So Dems didn't refuse the come out and vote because Obama gave in on those tax cuts at a strategically right time ( esp since they were temporary) , they rallied behind him when he made it an issue in the 2012 campaign against Romney.

If those taxes went up passed by the 2009 to 2010 Dem congress then Republicans would have had a real issue in 2012. I agree that Republicans couldn't come out looking like they were for raising taxes as that would defeat the whole idea, and they would have to be much smarter than they are to make this work.

So if they give in on taxes now after setting O up for re-election they will really look like complete fools. They lost everything. If they beat Obama+Dems back again now then not so bad.

74 posted on 11/21/2012 8:52:39 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Here’s a really bad scenario. House Republicans give-in/lose on those taxes now (which they probably will do as they expire) and then in 2016 voters perception is that the economy improved under Obama, meaning Republicans are not able to sell the case that those higher taxes hurt the economy as they been claiming they would.


75 posted on 11/21/2012 9:05:49 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

“Sorry.. I don’t get your drift.”

He mentioned something about a “national security force” that’s just as well organized and funded as the military in the 2008 campaign. We have organized and funded police forces, why do we need a “national security force”?

(Reminds me of the black and brown shirts worn by
“national security forces” of the past.)

Just saying.

IMHO
(Personally, it makes me think of the brown and black shirts worn by “national security forces” of the past.)


76 posted on 11/21/2012 9:12:54 AM PST by ripley
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To: lentulusgracchus

Another scenario, some of those taxes go up in January as O appears to win a standoff and the economy crashes (for whatever reason) and Republicans have an issue for 2012.


77 posted on 11/21/2012 9:15:46 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Sorry mean :”....and Republicans have an issue for 2016.”


78 posted on 11/21/2012 9:17:32 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

I tend to agree with you, but these days I don’t count anything out of bounds with this crew we’ve got in Washington, D. C.


79 posted on 11/24/2012 9:03:18 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: wastoute

I don’t get your point here. Perhaps you could expand your thoughts a bit so I can understand where you’re coming from.


80 posted on 11/24/2012 9:24:09 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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