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1 posted on 11/19/2012 12:22:00 AM PST by Kaslin
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Yeah we just need to reach across the aisle and moderate our tone.

Let’s dump some of the extremists and work with liberals to get all their ideas passed.

It hasn’t worked yet, but that just means we’re due for a win. :)


2 posted on 11/19/2012 12:32:17 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every level and every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against yo)
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Butch Cassidy: Alright. I’ll jump first.
Sundance Kid: No.
Butch Cassidy: Then you jump first.
Sundance Kid: No, I said.
Butch Cassidy: What’s the matter with you?
Sundance Kid: I can’t swim.
Butch Cassidy: Are you crazy? The fall will probably kill you.
Sundance Kid: Oh, shit...


3 posted on 11/19/2012 12:37:29 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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If they wimp out and increase the taxes and it looks like from this article some are trying to say they are for that..then when the nation fails, it will be their fault. People will not want to grow their companies if the tax rate is so high, profits are not there, to endure long term stability. The economy should be saved but not like this. If they do this, the party will be punished again. They will not cut spending they always tie it back into bills. They are doing smoke and mirrors. Obama and Speaker probably already made a deal. Lord, why do they even consider raising taxes-look how they lied about the bailouts. We have no one to trust/count on it seems.


4 posted on 11/19/2012 12:37:45 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. As another FR member says..Obamas are living in gangster paradise.)
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Go ahead and cave in, PUBs. You’re going to do it anyway. You know it; I know itl the RATs know it; heck, everybody knows it.

Then, in 2014, you all can kiss your jobs goodbye.


7 posted on 11/19/2012 12:48:23 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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This is nuts.

Obama doesn’t want a solution to the “fiscal cliff”. What he really wants is the chaos that results from an economic collapse. He’s setting up a Cloward-Piven situation.

Any tax increases will be hung around the Republican’s necks like a cursed albatross but no tax increase at this point will save the nation. None! The Republicans need to hang tight and fight tough against any effort to brand them as the cause of an economic collapse.

The deficit, no matter how much the Democrats try to shift the blame, belongs to BHO2. He brought it on and he alone owns it.

This Republican dominated House of Representatives must continue to try to do the people’s business honorably. It is, after all, why we elected them.

BHO2 is following the Cloward-Piven plan to collapse the system, and out of the resulting chaos establish communism. That is why he has armed certain governmental departments.

Get ready for a civil war, folks!


8 posted on 11/19/2012 1:09:44 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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Perhaps Obama could give the Republicans lessons in bowing. Then the Republicans could bow to the Democrats. That would be, like, bipartisan! Right?


11 posted on 11/19/2012 2:02:43 AM PST by TChad
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You give an inch they’ll want a mile.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 2:38:54 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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It is impossible to make any significant reduction in a $16 TRILLION national debt (and growing a trillion every year) with “tax increases on the rich”

The $800 BILLION is over 10 years. Our debt is increasing $120 billion a MONTH. Do the math. Total confiscation of all income of all “rich” wouldn't address 6 months of the problem. Plus obama’s demand for $1.6 trillion of the American people's money doesn't even include the costs of obamacare.

“Tax increases on the rich” are pure democrat political theater. It is certain the democrats are only doing this to hang the economy-ruining effects of the petulant marxist’s tax increases on the GOP.

These are perilous times. Thee question is no longer whether to give obama his tax increases, but how to make OBAMA and the democrats irrevocably OWN the results.

Given how very many so-called middle class people are 1-2 paychecks away from disaster, the effects of these taxes plus all the other costs going up (healthcare, energy, food costs) will be sobering. Let sobriety begin

14 posted on 11/19/2012 3:06:59 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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Actual spending cuts, not promises of spending restraints, should be the price for any tax increases and the magnitude of spending cuts and tax increases must equal. Obama always talks about fairness what could be more fair?


16 posted on 11/19/2012 3:16:05 AM PST by monocle
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16 trillion in debt probably over half of that is owed to the friendly folks over at the Federal Reserve Bank, who like a rich uncle, will forgive the debt when push comes to shove!

What deficit? It is all smoke being blown up America’s tail pipe.


19 posted on 11/19/2012 3:35:13 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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The bottom line for Republicans is that it’s easier to stand firm now than a year from now, in an election year. Obama may think he has all the cards, but he needs to be made to understand that he is in imminent jeopardy of blowing up his entire second term even before it begins. If he backs Republicans off the cliff and gets a double dip recession, that’s his legacy. And Boehner should make it clear that there are two more consequences. If there is a government shutdown, even brief, a fair number of offices will never reopen, because Republicans won’t fund them. And in the aggregate, an across the board budget freeze is the best Obama can hope for in the next four years.


20 posted on 11/19/2012 4:00:52 AM PST by sphinx
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Going over this “cliff” isn’t a bad idea. The thing is, if Jan 1st rolls around, Republicans better not then give in as Obama would have got his tax increase AND would get credit from the stupid half of our country. If we have to pay, let’s make it hurt them too. NO NEGOTIATION.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 4:04:51 AM PST by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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STFU mikey... your arse was wrong about the election and you are wrong about this... or you are just another paid liar for the two party ruling junta.

LLS

24 posted on 11/19/2012 4:27:07 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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We can go over the cliff or slide down the cliff slowly. Either way we end up at the bottom.


27 posted on 11/19/2012 4:43:18 AM PST by Venturer
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Anything bad that happens will be blamed on the Republicans.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 4:47:09 AM PST by I want the USA back
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I already give too much as it is.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 4:49:55 AM PST by jospehm20
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Barone can kiss my ass. My wish would be that the Republicans fight obama every inch of the way. But, then again, If the Republicans had the guts to fight, they would not be Republicans, would they?


31 posted on 11/19/2012 4:52:53 AM PST by sport
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Any new tax will NOT go to the reduction of debt. It will be immediately spent to prop up government union pensions and support new social programs.

The debt will continue to climb until the economy crashes and it will all be blamed the republicans.

Check mate.


33 posted on 11/19/2012 4:57:55 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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It’s not a matter of “sides.” It’s a matter of irresponsible policies of spending $3.5 trillion a year, done by both the Republicrats and the Democans.


35 posted on 11/19/2012 5:21:59 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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It’s not a matter of “sides.” It’s a matter of irresponsible policies of spending $3.5 trillion a year, done by both the Republicrats and the Democans.


36 posted on 11/19/2012 5:22:08 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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