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Israel Sends Hamas 36-Hour Ultimatum
IsraelNationalNews ^
| 11/19/2012
| Gil Ronen
Posted on 11/19/2012 12:11:58 AM PST by bruinbirdman
Diplomatic message to Egypt: Hamas terrorism must cease by Tuesday evening or we step up attack.
Israel has delivered an ultimatum to Hamas through Egypt, according to which the IDF will widen its offensive in Gaza in 36 hours unless Hamas ceases firing rockets and smuggling arms into Gaza, IDF Radio reported Monday morning.
Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz told the station that the time left before Israel steps up its attack can be measured in "hours, not days."
"We are at a junction," he said. "Either we go toward a calm or toward a meaningful widening of the operation
including a possible move to achieve complete military decision."

Tank soldier in prayer.
There are ongoing contacts between Israel and Hamas through intermediaries, IDF Radio said, but the gaps between the sides are still very large. According to reports in Cairo, Hamas demands a complete removal of the blockade on Gaza, an IDF commitment to stop crossing the security fence into Gaza and a cessation of targeted killings.
Israel, for its part, demands that Hamas cease firing rockets into Israel for a period of "several years" and a cessation of arms smuggling into Gaza. Israel agrees to Hamas's demand that the Rafiah crossing into Egypt be opened, but refuses to open crossings into Israel.
Hamas official Moussa Abu Marzuk said that Hamas will not agree to Israel's demands for a "security belt" on Gaza's eastern side, and a cessation of smuggling through the tunnels.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; idf; israel; rockets; ultimatum
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To: bruinbirdman
Looks bad—Hamas can not agree without losing face. Obama will stop Israel even if he must send in Marines to guard and protect Gaza.
To: bruinbirdman
Hamas demands Israel open up so they can Kill Jews easier.
I wonder which side the MSM will take.
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posted on
11/19/2012 1:32:15 AM PST
by
MaxMax
To: Forward the Light Brigade
Obama cannot lose face in front of HAMAS and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. He will publicly call on Israel NOT to invade. He must do this...Netanyahu will be forced to back down again and let his people be hit by future missile salvos...
4
posted on
11/19/2012 1:40:56 AM PST
by
Netz
(Netz)
To: bruinbirdman
There are those who say you cannot win a war using only air power.
I say it depends on what the planes drop on the target.
5
posted on
11/19/2012 2:43:09 AM PST
by
Bobalu
(It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
To: bruinbirdman
Hey, it’s only fair. Because Hamas always gives a “warning” before firing a missile or sending a suicide bomber to kill civilians....(Do I really need to append this with a sarcasm tag?)
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posted on
11/19/2012 2:57:54 AM PST
by
Clink
(Conservatives believe it when they see it. Liberals see it when they believe it.)
To: bruinbirdman
And this time Elmer Netanyahu wearry, wearry means it!
7
posted on
11/19/2012 3:40:44 AM PST
by
jjotto
("Ya could look it up!")
To: Bobalu
“At some point you get tired of swatting flies and you have to go for the manure heap.”
8
posted on
11/19/2012 4:15:04 AM PST
by
SMARTY
("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
To: Bobalu
“At some point you get tired of swatting flies and you have to go for the manure heap.”
9
posted on
11/19/2012 4:15:12 AM PST
by
SMARTY
("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
To: bruinbirdman
Benjamin Netanyahu is my president !
To: bruinbirdman
When the bearded ones make a truce it’s not a sincere promise. When the dirty-beard crowd stops the violence is when Israel will not need to defend itself.
To: bruinbirdman
Israel always seems to pull out early, when they do this they just set the conflict up to continue later. They need to devastate square miles. Before public pressure builds.
To: I want the USA back
I have two suggestions.
1. Give Gaza to Egypt. Let them deal with the terrorists. This way any rocket launch and Egypt will have to deal with the consequences.
2. Complete military trashing of Gaza and push all their residents into Egypt. Like what happened with the PLO being forced to Lebanon.
3. Bomb every tunnel so arms cannot be smuggled in and let it go at that. Plus kill all Hamas leadership worldwide.
13
posted on
11/19/2012 5:02:33 AM PST
by
EQAndyBuzz
(George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldsten of the modern era.)
To: bruinbirdman
Just send all Gaza Strippers to Egypt, flatten the Gaza strip , and incorporate it inside Israel withouyt any Palestinians.
Egypt does not want that, which is why they are promoting “peace.” Its time the Egyptians allowed the Gazanians into the Sinai, where they can go back to camel humping and beating their wives, instead of using tunnels from Egypt to Gaza to circumvent arms embargos and supply from Iran.
14
posted on
11/19/2012 5:18:02 AM PST
by
Candor7
(Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
To: bruinbirdman
Israel needs to spell it out in very simple terms the knuckledraggers understand:
Capitulation or liquidation.
15
posted on
11/19/2012 5:21:24 AM PST
by
ScottinVA
(I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
To: Candor7
Just send all Gaza Strippers to Egypt, flatten the Gaza strip , and incorporate it inside Israel withouyt any Palestinians. That's always been my hope. Take and level Gaza this time, for all time. Any future attacks will be met with the same approach... just in case the PA and its supporters on the West Bank start getting foolish ideas. Muslim filth understand and respect only one thing: the serious threat of annihilation.
16
posted on
11/19/2012 5:24:21 AM PST
by
ScottinVA
(I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
To: Forward the Light Brigade
Marines? Deployed outside of Bermuda? You’d think the Ghazans were US embassadors, or something.
17
posted on
11/19/2012 5:30:58 AM PST
by
Eleutheria5
(End the occupation. Annex today.)
To: Bobalu
Bombs away
with Curtis LeMay...
18
posted on
11/19/2012 5:35:18 AM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
To: Netz
The question I have is this, what is wrong if Obama does LOSE FACE ? NOTHING!
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posted on
11/19/2012 5:37:46 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: bruinbirdman
-——and smuggling arms into Gaza-——
Unenforceable absent the blockade and certain to be broken as soon as the blockade is terminated.
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posted on
11/19/2012 5:39:36 AM PST
by
bert
((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
To: ScottinVA
Israel should never have given up the Gaza to begin with.
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posted on
11/19/2012 5:39:52 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: bruinbirdman
It’s 3:36 pm in Israel right now.
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posted on
11/19/2012 5:41:19 AM PST
by
umgud
(No Rats, No Rino's)
To: Netz
Obama FORGETS, with that of both Hamas and the MB is that the God of the Holy Bible DOES have Israel’s back.
23
posted on
11/19/2012 5:42:46 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: EQAndyBuzz
Neither Egypt nor any of the other Arab states wants the Palestinians. In their ranking of people, Palis are at the bottom of the list, lower even than Pakistanis or Bangladeshis
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posted on
11/19/2012 5:43:06 AM PST
by
bert
((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
To: bruinbirdman
No way they can close those terms. War.
To: bruinbirdman
“There are ongoing contacts between Israel and Hamas through intermediaries, IDF Radio said, but the gaps between the sides are still very large.”
Negotiating with Hamas, Terrorists, Jihadists, Islamists call them what you will is fruitless. It’s only for show to the rest of the World that they, the Israeli’s tried to work it out. The only time one of those Jihadist, those Muslim organizations will negotiate is if they need time to rearm, or gather more women, and children to hide behind, and then it’s all a lie on their part no matter what they say. They cannot, and should not ever be trusted, and I say this NOT to the Israeli’s, ‘cause they know already, but to the idiots in the rest of the World that might think Muslim’s are civilized.
Perhaps there are some Muslims some might know, and personally like, but take note they are selling you cigarettes, booze, and the like in hopes you kill yourself, or they are selling a homeland oil based product of gasoline, which benefits their cause. (sorta /S)
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posted on
11/19/2012 5:49:25 AM PST
by
rockinqsranch
(Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
To: EQAndyBuzz
I have two suggestions. 1. Give Gaza to Egypt. Let them deal with the terrorists. This way any rocket launch and Egypt will have to deal with the consequences.
2. Complete military trashing of Gaza and push all their residents into Egypt. Like what happened with the PLO being forced to Lebanon.
3. Bomb every tunnel so arms cannot be smuggled in and let it go at that. Plus kill all Hamas leadership worldwide.
'zat you, Joe?
27
posted on
11/19/2012 5:50:55 AM PST
by
bankwalker
(In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
To: bankwalker
Pay no attention to the whacky VP behind the curtain.
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posted on
11/19/2012 5:56:04 AM PST
by
EQAndyBuzz
(George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldsten of the modern era.)
To: Biggirl
Well, for starters, Obama is an empty shirt and we all know that. In the Middle East he is detested and NOT RESPECTED. This is a very crucial point. The Muslims hated George Bush Sr. and Jr. BUT...they respected their use of force. Obama THINKS he is respected by the Arabs and the Israelis when in fact he is not. He THINKS he needs to show solidarity with Israel (even though we all know he's a faker) and at the same time licking the butts of the Muslim Brotherhood. Just as he thinks by coming down hard on those that would defame Islam he will be liked and respected in the Muslim world his image could not be further from the truth. So again, he THINKS he must save face when in fact, it is too late> You can count on him to do the wrong thing repeatedly.
29
posted on
11/19/2012 6:11:36 AM PST
by
Netz
(Netz)
To: American Constitutionalist
Benjamin Netanyahu is my president !
No unfortunately your President is Barack Obama unless you are an Israeli FREEPING from Israel...lol.
30
posted on
11/19/2012 6:12:25 AM PST
by
napscoordinator
(GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
To: Biggirl
Israel should never have given up the Gaza to begin with. I totally agree. Send the filth across to Egypt, delouse and reduce to rubble what remains, clear it and populate it with humans.
31
posted on
11/19/2012 6:15:51 AM PST
by
ScottinVA
(I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
To: Forward the Light Brigade
Looks badHamas can not agree without losing face. Obama will stop Israel even if he must send in Marines to guard and protect Gaza.
If barry does anything like that, I predict God to unleash on the U.S., in the form of MAJOR unrecoverable natural disasters.
32
posted on
11/19/2012 6:17:58 AM PST
by
crosshairs
(Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
To: MaxMax
Hamas demands Israel open up so they can Kill Jews easier. I wonder which side the MSM will take. As well as American Jews... Oh, wait.. we already know that answer.
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:18:17 AM PST
by
ScottinVA
(I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
To: Biggirl
Obama FORGETS, with that of both Hamas and the MB is that the God of the Holy Bible DOES have Israels back.
I'm pretty sure that's not mentioned in barry's Koran. So, he wouldn't know that.
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:20:56 AM PST
by
crosshairs
(Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
To: bankwalker
“One four-letter word describes our goal in the Mideast, and that is P-E-A-C-E!”
—Joe Biden
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:24:22 AM PST
by
ScottinVA
(I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
To: Netz
That is why I consider him to be (Obama), a weakling, not the anti-Christ despite what some Christians think.
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:25:27 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: crosshairs
......Well, the ONLY HOLY BOOK I go with is THE HOLY BOOK, THE GREATEST BOOK of them all, the BIBLE.
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:27:21 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: Biggirl
Exactly. What was the logic in Israel giving up Gaza?
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:33:30 AM PST
by
sarasota
To: ScottinVA
The rabbinical advisors of Agudath Israel of America have asked that everyone recite, in this order, Psalms 83, 130 and 142 every day that the crisis continues.
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:42:09 AM PST
by
Ryn
To: Biggirl
Obama’s entire “aura” is a projection of weakness (abroad)which gets back to my initial point of him being detested in the Middle East (and around the world by now). There has not been a lame, weakling like Obama. Even Carter looks better in retrospect. Hard for me to say that but yes, gulp*, Obama is the weakest US President we've ever seen - and at such a critical time in history...
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:48:28 AM PST
by
Netz
(Netz)
To: jjotto
Why on Earth would you make light about something so serious?
To: jjotto
Bibi is awesome. Not sure what’s up with what you said.
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:51:09 AM PST
by
HollyB
To: crosshairs
Remember, God has Israel’s back. Also remember that America is NEVER mentioned in the Bible.
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posted on
11/19/2012 6:54:41 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Bombs away with Curtis LeMay...
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posted on
11/19/2012 7:24:41 AM PST
by
Cheerio
(Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
To: Cheerio
Remember when LeMay was George Wallace’s running mate ?
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posted on
11/19/2012 7:31:27 AM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
To: Walkingfeather
re: Israel always seems to pull out early
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Too bad Obama’s dad did not pull out early.
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posted on
11/19/2012 7:42:55 AM PST
by
doug from upland
(Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
To: bruinbirdman; HollyB
"ADONAI is my Rock, my fortress and deliverer, my God, my Rock, in whom I find shelter, my shield, the power that saves me, my stronghold. I call on ADONAI, who is worthy of praise; and I am saved from my enemies."
~Psalm 18:2-3
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posted on
11/19/2012 7:59:37 AM PST
by
444Flyer
To: Bobalu
The Curtis LeMay school of foreign policy.
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posted on
11/19/2012 8:05:02 AM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: bruinbirdman
Israel needs to cut off the head of the hydra — Iran.
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posted on
11/19/2012 8:09:59 AM PST
by
sf4dubya
(I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
To: bruinbirdman
Israel, for its part, demands that Hamas cease firing rockets into Israel for a period of "several years" 7 years, perhaps?
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posted on
11/19/2012 8:09:59 AM PST
by
vrwc1
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