Skip to comments.Still Looking Like the Higgs
Posted on 11/16/2012 9:57:42 PM PST by neverdem
Still too soon to know. That's the latest word from particle physicists working with the world's largest atom smasher—Europe's Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland—as they try to figure out whether the particle they discovered in July is precisely the long-sought Higgs boson or something a tad different. The key question is whether the new particle decays into combinations of familiar particles at the rates that physicists' standard model predicts. So far, the measured decay rates generally match expectations, but the statistical uncertainties are too large to say anything conclusive, physicists working with the gargantuan particle detectors known as ATLAS and CMS reported today at a conference in Tokyo. The plots above show the measured decay rates relative to the standard model predictions, so that a value of 1 means agreement. (The vertical line in the CMS plot shows the average of all the measurements.) More data will shrink the error bars and yield a clearer picture.
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Couldn’t this somehow be the key to unlimited energy, space & time travel?
I could tell you what I think.
no no and no
I would be interested.
I would be interested.
One of my favorite shows....and it hits way to close to home with those I know and hang out with
rock paper scissors lizard spock
I think not so much. My handle is a play on my name as Rob Schneider’s office flunky at the photo-copier would have done, not from being an authority. Still, I’m rooting for the Higgs boson to soon be more than Particle Theory with, hopes that it could advance finding a Unified Field Theory.
The entire universe would have to be affected for time travel to take place. In the past it would have to be smaller, and in the future it would have to larger by its expansion.
I doubt if it will ever be possible.
I honestly thought it would be at a much higher mass.
pingaling ... this is as simply put as I can express ‘it’ ...
As to the soul, God knows, literally. I believe in “life after death” but haven’t the vaguest notion of how God works it.
If the universe is indeed a “bubble” (M-Theory), and even if there are infinite bubbles, even each with different physics, it wouldn’t preclude God for me. Indeed it would magnify His power.
I tend to agree that we are “trapped” in this universe. And I suspect, again, that we’re trapped within the constraints it places on time by its overall expansion.
May I also deign to ask, who is Sheldon? Drake?
Some would led us to believe the answer is 43. In their hearts however they know the answer is actually what it always has been..... forty - two. (which is actually 38)
I was offering the postulate that it is our body which is trapped in this Universe of our perceptions ... except that the soul, which is not trapped in the linear temporal expression of the Universe, is already in a temporal configuration which amounts to non-dissipation, temporally.
So we have an aspect which is already in the 'life state' which will be more of our configuration than while occupying the body we now have which is trapped in a dissipation state of linear temporal alignment. God has assured us that we shall have another body to which the temporally untrapped soul will be adapted.
I have what some say is an odd conceptualization of 'life after death', since I believe we already have something 'timeless' that is our soul. The Bible tells us 'the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them' and also that 'those who have died in Christ shall God bring with Him at the last trump and shout'.
I wonder, is the arrangement of the soul and spirit within similar to the arrangement of the body and soul within? If so, might we some day have a soul being informed by the spirit, in a non-dissipation temporal state of the Universe?
It's all tied up in our primitive conceptualization of 'what is dimension Time'.
Immediately after I posted I thought of “The Big Bang Theory”. Seems I was uncool: ~4ºK
onedoug, you might find the following article interesting, particularly in its view of physical death as a phase shift.
Thank you, Alamo-Girl. Can you think of another way in?
It’s better. However, all I can access is the abstract. There seems no link to the actual paper.
Sorry to seem to be complaining.
I spoke too soon. I found it. Thanks so much A-G.
It was the dress she was wearing.
Try this link: Paul Wesson's "Time as an Illusion" in PDF. I do believe this is the piece Alamo-Girl was directing you to. It's a dandy!!!
P.S: MHGinTN's speculations on time are fascinating to me. I think he's onto something important here. Certainly I agree with him that our notions of time are rather primitive, being derived from our experiences of direct sense perception. Hint: Not everything in the universe is accessible to direct sense perception, a//k/a direct observation.
Another example, we cannot physically sense how fast we are moving through space/time which is over 550,000 mph when we include the rotation of the earth on its axis, its orbital length around the sun and the solar system's around the galaxy. To that we'd have to add the expansion of space/time itself which is accelerating, btw.
So here we are, hurtling through space at 550,000 mph, and instead of getting instant whiplash, we take no "physical" notice at all.
Might this be because we can't take notice of that which we do not "feel" or "observe." Via the bodily sensorium, whose access to information from/of "the outside world" is confined to sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste (and the highly articulated biophysical systems that facilitate the reports of perception/observation to the brain, etc.)
It seems to me there might be some kind of "time problem" implicit in the "whiplash vs. total insensibility" conundrum above.
Perhaps Einstein's concept of inertial frame has wider application than scientists not to mention we ordinary mortals usually deal with.
Anyhoot, welcome to this post, my dear brothers, MHGinTN and TXnMA!
[onedoug, the four of us have been kicking around "The Problem Of Time" backstage for a while now. It's been a perfectly marvelous and challenging exchange of knowledge and views, from many different backgrounds. And we have all learned from each other, and are still learning, I do believe. :^)]
Dear MHGinTN, I've been thinking about your account/theory of Time as involving linear/planar/volumetric modes. I just had to follow you there. So, trying to find a "mathematical" model, I started to imagine the problem by analogy to the Cartesian plane which instantly depicts both the linear and planar dimensions.
At this point, I'm going to run away and draw some pictures. I'll be back ASAP.
Thank you dearest Alamo-Girl, sister in Christ for your outstanding observations!
Truly, one hardly ever hears even a physicist complete the sentence when he is talking about the age of the universe, e.g. ... from our present space/time coordinates.
Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!