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Freep this poll: If we fall off the fiscal cliff, which party will be to blame?
La Crosse Tribune ^ | 11/15/2012

Posted on 11/15/2012 6:46:05 PM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.

If we fall off the fiscal cliff, which party will be to blame?


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KEYWORDS: budget; fiscalcliff; poll; spending
The framing of the Republicans being responsible for our nations demise by our media continues.

You know what to do, Freep this poll!

1 posted on 11/15/2012 6:46:06 PM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

You Know, The Office Party!


2 posted on 11/15/2012 6:47:52 PM PST by conservative_cyclist (We all have to Vote, NO EXCUSES!!)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

The correct answer of course is BOTH PARTIES. And anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves


3 posted on 11/15/2012 6:48:26 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

The libs have a huge start on this one...


4 posted on 11/15/2012 6:49:33 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Nifster

Good answer.


5 posted on 11/15/2012 6:49:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

now all you have to do is get 457 more votes to worry them...


6 posted on 11/15/2012 6:50:39 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

The point is moot. “We the people” are fools - and worse - sheep who will believe what the Won spouts.

Pain - will be the purifier - and the teacher...


7 posted on 11/15/2012 6:52:32 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Both parties.

Anyways, those trillion dollar deficits and trillion dollar stimulus re all on Obama and the Democrats, if you ask me.


8 posted on 11/15/2012 6:53:45 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

We, the people are to blame.

We are the final guardians of our freedom, our country and our well being, and we are derelict in our duty.


9 posted on 11/15/2012 6:54:55 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

I am starting to think the only way for the Republicans to not take the blame is to just walk out during every disputed vote. In using this form of protest, those disputed spending bills favored by the dems will pass. When the economic destruction these bills invite comes to pass, the Republicans can honestly say that they had no part in it......
But who am I kidding? The media will just blame the repubs anyway saying that that their passivity in the face of our economics problems did more damage than the dems who were, in their opinion, trying to fix things.

Catch 22 in political terms.


10 posted on 11/15/2012 6:58:55 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

The fault will be the dims, but with Boehner and McConnell as the faces of the GOP, it won’t be hard for the dims to blame it on the GOP and the public will swallow the lie.


11 posted on 11/15/2012 7:02:37 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Remember the Heroic SEALs of Benghazi and DEMAND a Full Accounting!!!!)
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To: Nifster

Lets not forget that this whole “fiscal cliff” is the biggest LIE EVER TOLD, The “fiscal cliff” they are talking about is in reality the Slamming on the Brakes of Monetary and Fiscal Insanity before we go off the cliff. Let me tell you this, we are heading fullspeed for that cliff, if we don’t slam on the brakes with this sequestration deal they made, it will be much,much worse. If the outright theft of value of every American isn’t stopped and real soon, ie. Immediate Balanced Budget using Real Math, you will be begging for this so-called “fiscal cliff” that they are doing everything to avoid. Because to do so, would be instant recognition of all the Fraud Perpetrated by the Government over the last 40 years as well as the Fraudulent Economy we live in. A whole lot of people leaching off the Taxpayers will be devastated financially, But thats what happens to fleas on a dog, when it becomes unbearable, you get rid of all of them at once.


12 posted on 11/15/2012 7:06:28 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Who cares. ...let it come.

It will be worth paying the higher taxes to see all the
Opukes wailing in pain when they look at their paychecks.

The shock will give them a case of Obarrhea. ...Yes that
crampy and nauseous feeling of anger, disappointment and
regret.

What follows is a runny brown kind of buyers remorse.


13 posted on 11/15/2012 7:09:11 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: eyeamok

Dog included


14 posted on 11/15/2012 7:17:16 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.
Whose fault? Those who chose to be taken care of, who fought for it, demanded it and made it a right.

The weak and their enablers who put their reality on someone else's bill.

And those who refused to see what was happening and take a stand before it got to them, too, because by then it was too late.

15 posted on 11/15/2012 7:18:19 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: eyeamok
Lets not forget that this whole “fiscal cliff” is the biggest LIE EVER TOLD, The “fiscal cliff” they are talking about is in reality the Slamming on the Brakes of Monetary and Fiscal Insanity before we go off the cliff.

I can't help but agree. Half budget cuts in domestic and half in defense sounds pretty good to me. That's how it works in the real world. Let 'em try to do less with more. If it really hurts the military, we can always rebuild it later.

As for the tax rate hikes, not what I'd like to see, but at least it gives the Republicans an issue to run on in the next election. Elections never seem to get over people's built-in biases swing voters (i.e. those who "make up their mind in the booth") have on the parties. They believe Republicans will cut taxes and be strong in a war. They believe Democrats will give them more welfare when times are tough. So I don't see the Republicans getting blamed for tax hikes. And definitely not enough so that voters would actually believe the Republicans wouldn't cut taxes back down if they won the election.

16 posted on 11/15/2012 7:43:59 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.
Of course it will be the Republican backed business owners that hoarded cash, fired employees, and closed businesses for no reason other than their greed and hate for the working man. /sarc
17 posted on 11/15/2012 7:46:56 PM PST by Optimist
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To: Nifster

Yep. I was gonna say just about the same thing.

Maybe 60% Democraps fault, 40% the repubes, but sure enough blame to go around.


18 posted on 11/15/2012 7:55:42 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Nifster
The correct answer is the Great Society legislation and the expanded welfare state subsequent to that. With few exceptions this is a democrat problem. BTW consider the poll FReeped.
19 posted on 11/15/2012 8:00:13 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.
That's an easy one. Which party has a president that uses the executive order countless times to dismantle America?

Obama. The Democrats.

20 posted on 11/15/2012 8:00:36 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. As another FR member says..Obamas are living in gangster paradise.)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

No matter what the GOP does, THEY will be blamed.


21 posted on 11/15/2012 8:08:14 PM PST by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.
which party will be to blame?

Democrats. DUH!

They're the ones who have been enslaving and robbing the producing class for years. They've stolen so much to buy their votes for so many years, the slaves don't have anything left to steal.

22 posted on 11/15/2012 8:22:28 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Which party will be blamed? Why the Republicans of course. Which party caused it? The commie ‘RATS. The ‘RATS get a free pass because of their commie zombies in the state controlled “media”. The “media” with the little princess who congratulates and fawns over Barry Benghazi instead of asking him a question that he might have to answer with another lie. She just couldn’t control her “lady parts” at the “media’s” love fest and worship service at the alter of Barry yesterday.


23 posted on 11/15/2012 8:31:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

It’s Bush’s fault, of course.

Above all and everything, it positively and certainly CANNOT be Obama’s fault, no, no, no, no a thousand times no, it can never be Obama’s fault.

He’s too busy walking on water to ever deserve blame for anything that happens in the United States or in the world, that’s just a racist conspiracy that emerges from the White race’s hatred of Black people and deserves no consideration, as everyone in the press and academia will tell you so it must be true so, no, it can’t be Obama’s fault and it stands to reason then that it’s Bush’s fault.

Now hand me my welfare check and my food stamps and f*ck off.


24 posted on 11/15/2012 8:31:42 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.
As a side note to the fiscal cliff, I haven't seen anybody ask the following question about how much the federal government should be costing taxpayers per year, so here it goes.

First, note that Justice John Marshall had officially clarified that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
In other words, Congress is actually prohibited from laying taxes in the name of Social Security, Medicare and a whole lot of other federal taxing and spending programs that the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution the specific powers to regulate.

But here's my rough estimate as to how much Section 8 of Article I of the Constitution should be costing taxpayers per year. Given that the plurality of Section 8 clauses are defense related, and given that the Department of Defense (DoD) budget for 2011 was $600+ billion, I will generously round up the annual DoD budget to $1 trillion as a rough estimate for how much Section 8 should be costing taxpayers.

In other words, we shouldn't be hearing about multi-trillion dollar federal budgets that the corrupt media, including Fox News imo, is reporting without mentioning Justice Marshall's case precedent which limits Congress's power to lay taxes.

25 posted on 11/15/2012 8:33:23 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Speaking of going off the cliff, just had to post this:

Why our Country is Going Down The Drain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-a-r7iJIU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-a-r7iJIU&feature=player_detailpage


26 posted on 11/15/2012 9:05:17 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Voted, thanks!


27 posted on 11/15/2012 9:34:02 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Nifster
The correct answer of course is BOTH PARTIES. And anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

Correct answer!

28 posted on 11/15/2012 10:04:32 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

98% of Afro-Americans will blame the GOP. 75% of Mexican-Americans will blame the GOP. 70% of Oriental-Americans will blame the GOP. 39% of Euro-Americans will blame the GOP.

Isn’t that clear enoutgh?


29 posted on 11/16/2012 4:39:57 AM PST by RonnG
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

98% of Afro-Americans will blame the GOP. 75% of Mexican-Americans will blame the GOP. 70% of Oriental-Americans will blame the GOP. 39% of Euro-Americans will blame the GOP.

Isn’t that clear enoutgh?


30 posted on 11/16/2012 4:40:40 AM PST by RonnG
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