Skip to comments.McCain Beats Romney! The Pennsylvania story -- how did it and so much else go wrong?
Posted on 11/13/2012 9:14:41 AM PST by neverdem
Brace yourselves, conservatives. What Im about to say will hurt, and it should hurt -- and Im not the first to notice. (Kudos to Rush Limbaugh, who noticed and is hitting this point hard.) Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election not so much because he got fewer votes than Barack Obama but because he got fewer votes than John McCain in 2008.
Additional votes are still coming in, but, as of the time of my writing, Romney received around 57.8 million votes in 2012. In 2008, John McCain received 59.9 million. Romney got over 2 million fewer votes than McCain. And in the final count, he will almost certainly have received considerably fewer votes than McCain.
Obama received 60.6 million votes in 2012, almost 9 million less than he received in 2008. If Romney would have had McCains vote total, he would have been much closer in the popular vote and might have even had enough to win the Electoral College. Or, better put, if Mitt Romney had secured just a tiny fraction more votes than John McCain -- as we conservatives were certain he would -- he might have won the presidency.
We know this: Romney won independents by 5 points, and they made up 29% of all voters. McCain didnt win independents.
What does this really mean? Thats where the hurt comes. It appears to mean that our side lost because we failed to turn out our side. It isnt so much that the Obama-Axelrod apparatus turned out their side -- though they did -- but that our side failed to...
Imagine: If someone had told you that Barack Obama would receive 9 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008, you would have predicted his sure defeat. You would have been wrong. Republicans blew a huge opportunity.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
We need an analysis by congressional district with final, certifiable votes.
“Imagine: If someone had told you that Barack Obama would receive 9 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008, you would have predicted his sure defeat. You would have been wrong. Republicans blew a huge opportunity.”
We didn’t vote. It’s our own stupid fault. Stand back and watch the next years under Marxist rule, you morons who were too pure to vote for Mitt.
“We need an analysis by congressional district with final, certifiable votes. “
It’s the stupid irresponsible purists who wouldn’t vote for Romney that are certifiable.
Did McCain really beat Romney, or did Democrats simply step up their vote fraud this election?
Romney now has 1mm fewer votes than McCain, not 2mm fewer as the article states. Romney may wind up having about the same number of votes as McCain did.
The President now has 7 million fewer votes than last time, not 9mm as the article states.
Obama : 62,280,959 Popular Votes
Romney : 58,899,127 Popular Votes
I read an article somewhere were the writer stated that Romney would end up with the same vote total as Mccain. It takes time to count every vote.
You are in denial. Sure there was some fraud, but Romney had zero GOTV efforts other than operation “Beached Whale”
I hate being right....
FRAUD AND PALIN!
Even with all of the voter fraud, Romney should have won by 10 Million votes anyway - people stayed home.
“You are in denial. Sure there was some fraud, but Romney had zero GOTV efforts other than operation Beached Whale”
So SOME FRAUD is ok?
Please explain how some fraud in voting is OK?
And why is it always the democRATS who are doing the fraudulant voting?
Who the hell is in denial here?
One fraud vote negates the vote of an honest citizen.
What does thousands of fraud votes do?
It corrupts the systems. Which is exactly where we are at.
There is no honor among democRATS.
Visit this site. They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
SARAH PALIN speaks out of massive Obama machine voter fraud:
Sarah Palin News @SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud
Sarah Palin News @SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.
Mitt Romney tweets about election fraud:
Mitt Romney in 2012! @PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified, Heres What You Can Do:
>> These electi... http://bit.ly/Zzam8Y
These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it wont do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...
Hannity and Col Allan West hit voter fraud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-aVy_s76ZY
Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138<
Must watch videos!
VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting
VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers
VIDEO- Michael Savage: How Obama fixed the 2012 election: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc
VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April:
VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud: http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=player_embedded&v=k_rMpQKqZhM
We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.
We must act NOW.
Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.
We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....
We are FReepers. We must fight!
Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!
Join us!! See the 'BARACK OBAMA FRAUD 2012- (MUST READ- MUST GO VIRAL!)' thread
“Its the stupid irresponsible purists who wouldnt vote for Romney that are certifiable.”
?? Read the article. All the evidence is that conservatives turned out. There’s other articles out there that are pretty clear that where R’s bombed was that white, working-class men did not, although they lean R. This was probably a candidate and negative-campaign issue. Despite having an attractive, capable, moderate establishment R running, we failed to turn out a key part of our base. I would speculate the working class white men responded to Obama’s class warfare message.
Still pathetic. Party identification was +6 GOP two weeks ago, yet final voting balance was D+6.
How is this a surprise? Romney lost to McCain in 2008. McCain lost to Obama in 2008. Doesn’t take a genius to figure that Romney was a bad candidate to run against Obama in 2012.
All these aftermath analysis are always off first of all the turn out was a lot lower than in 2008 and Obama didn’t win by the same amount either.
Fact is ROMNEY DID BETTER THAN MCCAIN percentage wise.
Romney won more states and had more electoral votes than McCain and his margin of loss was smaller in states like FL, OH, VA, and in PA.
Noway did McCain do better except in the amount of votes and again that’s due to turnout on both sides. McCain’s EV was paltry and his margin of loss in states like FL, OH, and VA weren’t close.
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