Posted on 11/13/2012 7:46:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
All true. And one more reason. When you reward something, you get more of it.
As soon as somebody can tell me 1) why these “immigrants” should not have to comply with the same rules as all others, and 2) why the rules should have to change to accommodate people merely unwilling to comply with them, I might consider talking about “amnesty”. Oh, and how ‘bout that whole, “We fought a tyrant and won - go clean up your own back yard” thing? Does saying, “Be willing to shed your own blood for your own country rather than breaking the rules of my country and then demanding that WE change” make me a bad person? Tango Sierra. To quote Don Quixote, they need “to be willing to march into hell for a heavenly cause”.
Blacks , Hispanics , and Israeli hating Jews are not going to vote for Republicans no matter what they do.
Romney knew that, he called it, wasting time on the 47%.
These people are already bought and paid for by Democrats using the Republican workers taxed money.
Reagan (the greatest conservative president ever!) had an amnesty program.
He unfortunately trusted Congress that they would couple it with border control, and got screwed.....
This is an issue that must be dealt with in a thoughtful, compassionate manner without rhetoric or hyperbole.... Screaming about 20 foot fences and moats with alligators doesn't cut it....
How to handle it is subject to debate.
However, the Hispanic vote is NOT locked to Democrats. Hispanic voters values are more aligned with conservative values than liberal.
There are ways to address the issue, adhere to our principle, resolve the problem and win the Hispanic vote for all time....
During the primary, Newt articulated one of them....
Reagan gave them amnesty and the GOP has barely broken 40% since.
Best reason I can think of.
If you are going to play brazen racial realpolitik than at least make it count.
Nominating another Dole-McCain-Romney type would be as well.
Well I for one have to say if they do amnesty, I’m done with them.
The left asks their pols to lie cheat and steal for them and they do it.
All we ask from ours is just to advocate conservatism most of the time and they continually fall short.
I’m sick of it.
Well I for one have to say if they do amnesty, I’m done with them.
The left asks their pols to lie cheat and steal for them and they do it.
All we ask from ours is just to advocate conservatism most of the time and they continually fall short.
I’m sick of it.
Only one reason is needed. America would be finished.
amnesty is the new debt ceiling.
they’ll just do another and kick the can down the road.
The Repub’s haven’t put up a real conservative since Reagan....That’s why they haven’t broken 40%....
It’s not a brazen race pandering issue but a real issue that needs to be addressed. It can be made into a race bait....That’s what the liberal demoncrats do...
We can address the issue with conservative values and address some of the concerns of the Hispanic community.....There is no leadership within the Republican party on this issue....The best i’ve seen is Newt so far....
even if immigrants all voted republican, would it matter?
we’ll still be bankrupt and going there even faster. it’s a fact that immigrants, legal AND illegal , use social services at a higher rate than others. we can’t even afford to support our born and raised American moocher class, let alone a whole class of poor with anchor babies.
you import more poor(into a welfare state) and you get more poverty.
Could be...until the GOP-E gives all the illegal aliens the vote.
You see the problem?
It "is" possible to "do amnesty" without "giving...illegal aliens the vote". It's called "permanent residency". NO illegal who willingly came here in violation of our laws should ever be allowed to vote.....period. Children brought here by such illegals should be eligible to apply for citizenship at age 21 "if" they have maintained a squeaky-clean legal record, are self-supporting, or served a term in an arm of the US military.
Sort of a slave labor force?
What do you think happens to a nation with millions of permanent foreigners who have no voting power to control their own lives?
When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?
Ever hear of resciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.
Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.
Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .
The fundamental flaw in this piece is that it’s based on the premise that the GOP hasn’t already committed political suicide.
Absolute NONSENSE! Biggest political myth of the past 30 years. "Hispanic values" = WELFARE STATE. Period. Hispanic immigrants receive welfare 4 times as often as other immigrants. 71% of illegal aliens in TX receive at least one form of welfare. They get freebies and they want more. MUCH more. And Democrats are the pushers. You can't beat Santa Claus.
Also, if Reagan's amnesty was so "compassionate" and popular with Hispanics, then why did George H.W. Bush get a horrid 30% of their vote just 2 years later?
100% complete and total bunk and BS .....go spend a little time in El Paso or what’s left of small towns in the Texas Panhandle and tell me these illegals have conservative values .....
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