Skip to comments.Republicans in Congress should let Obama have his way
Posted on 11/12/2012 8:02:13 AM PST by newgeezer
The only hope for an America that would reward such epic failure by re-electing Obama and a Democratic Senate, is to accelerate their re-education in the consequences of liberal Democrat economic policies.
Speaker John Boehner should announce that he has heard the voice of the people and will honor that voice by letting the Presidents agenda be fully enacted so that there will be no doubt who owns the economy. We cant obstruct enough to make a difference in the natural outcome of events, so why strain at gnats?
Let us make clear that we are doing this out of respect for the vote to re-hire Obama and to let the people have what they voted for. It took many decades to produce such an electorate and if the Titanic liberal culture can ever be turned around, it will only be after hard lessons are learned and the voters can easily assign blame.
I say, lets get out of the way and let Americans have it all now, while some may still have a faint memory of the jewel of what was, and so might have a chance of choosing to return to Liberty rather than devolving into Third World status.
This lobster seems to need to feel an even greater boiling water heat. They chose it. Let them have it all. Reason doesnt work with these people. They are beyond those appeals.
Time for tough love. Let the teenagers drive the car unrestricted and maybe we can recover after the inevitable car gets wrapped around the tree.
America now resembles the guy that jumped off the Empire State building only to decide to reverse course after descending to the 25th floor. He must suffer the natural consequences of his irrational acts before he can act to improve his lot.
Let them eat totalitarianism.
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(Any earlier post of this article wasn't tagged with the Keyword, "Congress" and FR's Search doesn't work at all for me at the moment; I just get a blank screen, no matter what I search for.)
Last time I checked, the House holds the pursestrings to the entire government.
Defund Idiotcare. Block amnesty. Obama is going to self-destruct on his own with fuel prices, food prices, a loss in AFG, the economy, unemployment, and increased terrorism on our shores.
I agree. I think they need to give him his economic ideas. I would try to minimize the defense cuts to a more reasonable level, but let him implement and own the decline.
Sounds good on paper but if Obama voters were capable of learning from consequences they would have learned already.
History is full of nations that allowed dictators and despots have full reign. But yet no lessons are learned and we keep trying the same old insanity.
I would agree with him if no conservatives lived in the US. But allowing Obama to have his way will cause as much harm to conservatives as to the liberals who caused it. So until then the House of Reps should curtail all his and his Dem cohorts requested spending
The last think we want to give Obama is bipartisan cover. That will kill the GOP for good.
Cloward Piven strategy.
Which is precisely why every member of the GOP should abstain on every vote. It's the only way to kill liberal totalitarianism for good.
I agree. Give Obama and Reid everything for which they will be held accountable.
Let them OWN the disaster that will ensue.
Half of me says let him have it and own it; the other half wants to continue the fight on every front we still can.
With all the personal and business losses I’ve had over the last 13mos, and now this on Nov 6th, I’m still “up on the ledge”. I need to get a better grip. I’m working on it.
“John Boehner should announce that he has heard the voice of the people...”
John Boehner should announce that he has heard the voice of George Soros.
IOW, vote “Present”, I like that.
I totally agree. Why should Republicans take the blame for being obstructionists. Obama is president, let him lead. American’s lusted for Obama, give them Obama!
I’m going Gault and will pick up the pieces after the economic car is wrapped around the tree.
it’s does not matter , if the GOP make a deal ,Obama will just throw away the GOP part like he did several times already
0bama will lead America into Civil War. Let him.
Interesting. You use “economic car”, the guy in the blog above uses a bus as an analogy.
In his “bus” are the people of the country. The bus goes faster and faster, and the road gets icier and icier. It’s headed toward a hairpin curve.
Some ask to get off the bus, and some stay on the bus, because it’s [currently] warmer.
Those getting off the bus may survive, IF they are wearing the proper cold weather gear.
Those staying on the bus will plunge to their deaths.
The ONLY thing Republicans must not give 0bama his way on is repealing term limits for his Presidency via Executive Order.
Confucius say; “Never trust old man who must be tan”
The second part of your statement is the key. They should be held accountable if we give them their way and the system crashes. I fear they will not be held accountable, either by the media or the electorate. The 'Rats will find someone else to blame (Republicans, Bush, Tea Party, etc.) for their failure. The media will give them cover. The sheeple will buy it because the 'Rats "care" and want to give them free stuff like Obamaphones and food stamps.
It's a no-win situation for the 'Pubs. They are going to be blamed if they go along and the society collapses, or if they fight (i.e., "obstructionists"). But, knowing you're going to catch hell no matter what you do can be strangely liberating. You already know you're screwed, so you might as well do what you think is best (fight, or go along) and say to hell with it. All I would do in that case is take as many 'Rats down as I could before they get me. Then pick up the pieces (if you're still around).
Let them have their way and America will forever remember that a republican house did it.
I think they need to let things come to a vote and then all republicans should abstain and let the things pass with only democrat votes.
Agreed, but I am sympathetic to the author's strategy. Follow the Sen. Obama strategy and ABSTAIN: can't be accused of obstruction or support.
Not to “let Obama have his way”, but show up (so as to form a quorum), vote “present”, and let the Democrats all vote for the measure, with not one Republican vote in support.
There is a law in place, passed by both the House and Senate, and signed by the President in his official capacity, which allows the tax rates to revert to those that existed before the “Bush tax cuts”, and also requiring sequesteration of allocation of funds for the operations of the Federal Government at a flat rate up and down the line.
The temporary reduction in the payroll deduction for FICA also reverts from 5.65% to 7.65%, and that seems to be on track. At least nobody is talking about it.
If Republicans are supposed to be the “do-nothing” party, then perform your duty, and “do nothing” to help this farce.
There is no dishonor in standing up and fighting Obama for the next two years and getting voted out by an immoral electorate.
If the GOP rolls over and gives Obama what he wants, there will be no reason to choose a Republican over a Democrat.
Yup, let’s kill the dog to get rid of the fleas.
Every Marxist claque that has ever taken over a nation has killed its opposition. Why should we think this group would be any different?
They should vote present that way they did not support or obstruct. Obama voted that way all the time so libs can hardly complain. When the wealthy leave and jobs get more scarce, it will be owned by Obama. The end will be the same one way or the other so the sooner it fails the sooner we can pick up the pieces.
The problem is that by killing the dog the fleas simply do what fleas do and flee — to another host.
Exactly right. Say no to bipartisan nonsense. Let the takers own it.
Keep the military strong and let the rest destroy itself.
I left off the ‘sarc’ tag.
Fleas? Yeah, right. Many years ago this dog had fleas.
You still want to treat terminal cancer with a flea bath.
People even here apparently have no clue or understanding that a despotic Marxist tyranny - unopposed, is PERMANENT?
That multiple MILLIONS of their own people die via starvation, killing and imprisonment at their hands?
That NEVER AGAIN do a people have a voice in their future?
Letting this regime have what they want as some kind of teaching tool for the masses to suffer their choice - is woeful ignorance of how and what will actually happen.
Just a quick recap. The president can only sign what goes on his desk, which comes from the Senate, which came from the Congress. It takes five years in for spending and policy to make the final stages of approval.
For instance, money is proposed for a major construction by the Joint Chiefs of Staff/DoD, and it sent to the Congress. This goes into the list of items for approval. If approved, it is given a funding date in the future four years from now. Next year, and each of the following years it is subject to cuts, or it may live on without a dime being spent. After five years, the money is approved by the Congress.
This process goes from Agencies to the Congress, to the Senate, and hopefully to the President. It goes up, it goes down. With each trip up or down through the House or Senate, it changes.
There is no way in hell any sane person would just give him what he wants. He only has four years - hence the beauty of the GAO and the budget process.
The mere fact that this sitting President has FAILED TO SECURE A BUDGET means that he is at the first year. Anything that this President wants in a Budget can and may very well be cut by the follow on administration.
So that same sense of honor should have allowed GW Bush to have his way? I think not, as the voters have made clear that a divided government is in their best interests.
Obama is going to self-destruct on his own with fuel prices, food prices, a loss in AFG, the economy, unemployment, and increased terrorism on our shores.
Did you write this before this past election? Because it’s obvious these things mean nothing and will not affect Obama.
I predicted the economy, gas prices, and housing market would sink Baraq.
I was completely wrong.
The demographic trend is killing us I believe.
“Our” voters are dying off being replaced by groups that vote 70% plus Democrat.
Only if those things were actually causing privation. Due to entitlements, the economy doesn't affect people and cause them to act.
The only thing that's going to reset this is the inability of the gov't to deliver these entitlements, ie, the "safety net".
This the fundamental difference between the rats and GOP. When the rats lose, they get even nastier and fight dirtier. They stopped Bushs reforms dead when he had a clearer mandate in 04 then Zero has today. Before last Tuesday, Reid was promising to refuse to work with Romney if he won.
Instead we are going to roll over and give them everything they want. They have been getting everything in places like Detroit and Philly for a generation, didit teach them a lesson?
Nope the house should move ahead with their own agenda, THAT WAS a clearer referendum then Zeros win. If it means 4 years of grid lock, so much the better.. THAT’S what the nation voted for Tuesday.
Yes in many respects the whole country is like that family in 2007 riding a wave of false prosperity based on maxxed out credit cards and helocs on a house with negative equity.
Instead of two leased SUVs and a McMansion it’s a full menu of entitlements.
I wish I had some insight on when it will implode...
That would result in an economic collapse, and a never ending third term.
I understand the logic (frustration) behind this but unfortunately Republicans control the House so they must sign on to anything that gets to Obama’s desk.
It was painful to watch Paul Ryan deny he supported the debt limit cuts when he is on tape praising that bill as a victory, so this wont work either.
The only way to do this practically if it was desirable, and I am not saying it is, is to have enough Republicans resign in the House to give it back to Pelosi.
Just as a vanity I warned here about the risks of Rs taking control of the House January 2011. It was obvious that O would make them the scapegoats for everything, and he did. It made beating O much harder, although it could have been used more effectively than it was to Romneys favor.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing ..
Not at all. They can abstain from voting. Speaker Boehner should have no trouble convincing his minions to do so.
Only problem is, it could be political suicide. And the "statesmen" we elect to Congress these days care a hell of a lot more about re-election than they ever will about the future of the nation.
If the current trends continue: gas will be at $8/gallon, food prices will be up another 30% or more, and we’ll be at somewhere north of 12% unemployment (and probably closer to 21-22% total or U6 unemployment) with another stagnant RE market.
Combine that with being beaten in AFG, a precipitous stock market drop when the yuan becomes the new global currency, a 40-60% increase in health insurance premiums and a couple more Benghazigates (or worse, another attack here at home), and I think that should be sufficient to reach enough voters to beat Hitlery.
This is assuming we have another election, of course, and assuming that the idiots in the House don’t agree to amnesty... which will guarantee that no more republicans will win another seat anywhere, ever.
I agree. Sick of BO blaming on Bush. Who is he blaming “the mess he inherited” on this time? He needs to own it lock, stock and barrel.
Then how did we add at least $2 trillion in debt over the last two years that GOP has controlled the House?
He's right. If we effect ONE little change the liberal's butt boys at the New York Times would pin the whole disaster on us. Dems cheated to win - let them own the mess. Our job is to change the corrupt voting system and do everything we can to bankrupt the MSM. Anything other than that is a waste of time. When those two things are done, we can talk.
Why help them? Our job for now is to protect the right to vote. Dem lowlifes have decided stealing the vote is cool. That’s what we need to stop. After dems have destroyed and bankrupted the country we can fix it if a free voting system is protected. That’s got to be our issue - our only issue.