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Enough with the low Romney voter turnout! (Vanity)

Posted on 11/11/2012 3:40:41 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles

There at at LEAST several million votes yet to be tabulated across the nation. At the timeof this post in CA alone there are around 3 million, in AZ around 400,000, many states across the nation are at 97, 96, 95 % of total votes reported short of 100%.

http://www.examiner.com/article/three-million-votes-uncounted-california

http://campverdebugleonline.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubsectionID=1&ArticleID=36491

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: vanity
Those of us who have been folloing elections for decades KNOW that the final vote count will take until at least Thaksgiving.

My prediction is Obama around 64.5 million and Romney around 60.5 million. Around 126 million nation wide counting all third party candidates in with the mix. A drop of of around 5 million from 2008. Almost all the drop off will be from Obama's vote total.

1 posted on 11/11/2012 3:40:44 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

The big Republican drop is from 2004 to 2008. The big Democrat drop is from 2008 to 2012.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 3:43:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Ok.

We need to make sure the eventually we are dealing with the Real Data, as we try to figure out a path forward.

Thank you.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 3:48:41 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: muawiyah

Agreed. There will end up being a significant drop from 2004 to 2008 AND 2012 especially adding in pop growth.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 3:49:49 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Meaning what, exactly?


5 posted on 11/11/2012 3:50:27 PM PST by cardinal4 (WTF happened?)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Voter fraud is so rampant that unless the Republicans start putting violators in jail we will never see a Republican president again.


6 posted on 11/11/2012 3:50:54 PM PST by doc
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Thanks for the post, I’ve been trying to point this out for a week but people are so desperate to prove that people stayed home because Romney was a RINO that they are impervious to reason.

I’ve done a full spreadsheet and estimated Romney ends up with about 63 million votes, actually (something is really wrong with the Washington State totals, says 55% of the vote in, but projecting that to 100% gives way too many votes).


7 posted on 11/11/2012 3:53:54 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

The swing states, the last I heard, is about 338 thousand difference. You throw in voter fraud which pushes Obama over the top.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 4:03:09 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Not to mention the Romney votes that never were counted.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 4:05:07 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I ran 2004 numbers as well, and factored in growth of the voting age population - in raw numbers Romney will end up with more votes than Bush in 2004, there will likely end up being no more than a 1% drop in Romney’s vote from 2004 factoring in population growth.

It’s hard to make a case that more than 0.1% or 0.2% of that dtrop would be people that voted for Bush that stayed home because Romney was a RINO or Mormon.

If you leave out Texas (as there’s a native son effect) Romney did just as well in the Bible Belt as Bush in 2004.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 4:09:42 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: ReaganÜberAlles; a fool in paradise

Still, counting all the votes of people who died since 2008, the numbers should be larger!


11 posted on 11/11/2012 4:11:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Strategerist
There two ways to express outstanding votes ~ percentage of outstanding precincts, and percentage of estimated normal vote.

Neither one tells you how many votes are outstanding ~ if you knew that, you'd know the votes!

12 posted on 11/11/2012 4:15:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

It’s pretty clear the CNN numbers are % of votes counted; you’ll note that for each county in the country they have 100%; 100% of precincts have reported AT ALL, but they have not counted all of their votes - thus the “71% in” number they report for California, even though every county in California shows 100% of precincts reporting.

And running the spreadsheet assuming the statewide “% in” numbers are % of total votes counted, not precincts reporting, results in very believable vote totals that are similar to 2008; with the notable exception of Washington and Oregon (big mail-in voters tates) - must be something wrong with their % of vote in as the vote totals end up too high - and New York and New Jersey being low - Sandy an obvious explanation there suggesting in those states turnout was in fact down.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 4:22:25 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
I think the big drop for Republicans ~ 4.5 million or so from 2004 to 2008, was due mostly to baby boomers dying off ~ and what they called Rockefeller Republicans in the North East having failed to propagate in the 1970-1987 period in sufficient numbers to keep up their part of the electorate.

There was no significant coalition partner change.

The Democrats got a double whammy this year. They gained more Democrat votes from the crowd who usually don't vote back in 2008, but they suffered the same very real demographic losses in 2012 ~ but the non-voters reverted. At the same time Democrats have been failing to propagate at the rate we would have expected in the 1970-1987 period for NE Republicans because they are really in deep in this abortion thing of theirs.

If you crank in the 35 million dead black babies and the 20 million dead white babies, heavily centered on the Northeast into all the figures, you'd see Rooseveltian majorities for the Democrats ~ out as far as you could perceive. Relative growth among Hispanics would seem negligible.

Our problem in getting Republicans elected at the top is a short term one ~ this year wasn't it, but if the Democrats suffer another loss like this one, they'll be showing up with vote totals in the low 50 millions.

BTW, starting from relatively equal numbers the Democrats are showing tremendous losses in numbers way beyond what Republicans have ever seen ~ kinda' sorta' buried in this year's victory, but they don't own the House. Their higher death rates in the aging cohorts, plus their higher abortion rates, guarantee them political oblivion in a decade or less.

Folks who want to split the Republican party might be well advised to begin preparing for that now. One of the factions can take over the space formerly occupied by the Democrats.

14 posted on 11/11/2012 4:33:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Strategerist
Absentee votes, of course, give you a raw count simply because you have the return envelopes, but you have to open them. There's always a rejection rate due to voter failure to comprehend the rules.

Oregon is total mail-in. They thought it was a good idea. At the same time it ends up more costly and takes longer.

Washington is one of those places where the major vote generating systems in the Western urban areas are essentially corrupt. No one can know what the vote is until the last lost satchel is recounted!

15 posted on 11/11/2012 4:38:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
I think Romney will be closer to 62 million or more and Obama closer to 67 million. Right now Obama has 62,030,023 votes (51%) and Romney 58,745,402 votes (48%).

CA has only reported 71% with the total vote so far about 10 million. There should be 4.2 million more votes from CA alone. Obama should get at least 60% of those. Ohio has only reported 90% and NY 86%. WA is still at 55% and OR 75%. AZ at 80%.

16 posted on 11/11/2012 4:40:10 PM PST by kabar
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To: Strategerist; ReaganÜberAlles
All modern Mormons want to feel as persecuted as they are taught Joseph Smith and his immediate cadre were believed to be ~ before he got assassinated by former church members upset about this, that, and what they perceived to be a sort of currency fraud.

They'll add the Romney loss to their litany of 'we wuz persecuted' tales. I don't encourage folks to do that for the simple reason that a century or two down the road no one can make amends even if there had been persecution.

17 posted on 11/11/2012 4:44:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cardinal4

Hail Romney, PBUH.


18 posted on 11/11/2012 4:51:33 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: doc

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Sign the petition for a recount:
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

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Visit this site.
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

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SATURDAY UPDATES FROM THE ‘OBAMA VOTER FRAUD” WEBSITE
(thurs and friday cases of fraud at site)

Military service members purged from voter rolls in Florida...
http://redflagnews.com/military-service-members-purged-from-voter-rolls-in-florida

Pundit Press: In Florida: Obama Got Over 99% in Broward County Precincts
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/in-florida-obama-got-over-99-in-broward.html?spref=fb

TRR: Allen West Seeks Recount Amid Growing Vote Count Scandal
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/

[This is the same St. Lucie that has 141.1% voter turnout affecting both Romney and West...]

St. Lucie County - 84 juridictions, 83 of them had 121-166% turn out
http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf

Nevada Unions Are Regestering Illegals and Forcing Them to Vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGd50sZG4g&feature=share

The video suggests that this method was the only way Harry Reid was able to defeat challenger Sharon Angle in 2010 to retain his Senate seat and continues to be used.

via Jewel on Facebook: “Could you please help us? There is a petition for a recount and it takes 28,000 signatures. We are all promoting it and would love to have you on our side. The link to sign the petition is:”
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpetitions.whitehouse.gov%2Fpetition%2Frecount-election%2FZQmy0Mlv%23thank-you%3Dp&h=4AQEgo5BK

Another petition, this one to Congress:
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

You can also request that Reince Preibus of the GOP start a swing state recount based on information available at this website and as part of ORCA (Thanks Shirley!):
http://www.gop.com/contact-us/

I’ve added links to all three petitions to the sidebar at the top of this page and expect to add more.

Voter Fraud by the numbers? Absolutely
http://www.altadenagroup.com/CSIA/post_details.asp?p_ID=10774

Thank you to everyone who is sharing this page! As of Saturday morning, we are getting about 3,000 visitors an hour. You are making a difference!

SUNDAY UPDATES

This one is MUST SEE:

“Obama won 100% of the 900,135 votes cast in Cuyahoga County OH! No votes from new registered voters or indies went to Mitt. Voting officials SHOULD BE ARRESTED BY OUR MILITARY FOR SEDITION & PERPETRATING A FRAUD AGAINST ALL OF AMERICA. A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT WILL BE FILED against the networks for not telling the truth! view pic.”
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3474982207064&set=a.1633846179814.70439.1646473511&type=1&theater

Summary Photo
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/534531_3474982207064_881171232_n.jpg

Throw out this all-fraud county and Mitt wins Ohio, no question!

Why? A total of 5,364,324 “people” voted in Ohio. Obama got 2,691,861 votes, while Romney got 2,584,620, a difference of 107,241 votes.

How did Cuyahoga County’s 900,135 votes affect the final result? You do the math.

For Ohio to certify this result would be a crime in and of itself.

Thank you to the Examiner for mentioning us!

Citing voter fraud, petition at White House web site demands recount of election
http://www.examiner.com/article/citing-voter-fraud-petition-at-white-house-web-site-demands-recount-of-election

Thanks also to The Competent Conservative for quoting us in entirety!

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount?
http://thecompetentconservative.com/is-there-enough-evidence-of-voter-fraud-to-merit-a-recount/

Much more to come! As one of our commenters below said, voter fraud is like cockroaches. You find one and they are likely everywhere. Cuyahoga County, Ohio is obviously not alone!

Here is a petition you can sign at Change.org to request a full recount. I suggest we just focus on the swing states, but it is true that many Congressional and Senate races are also affected, from Allen West to, I believe, Mia Love. Mia was up by 10% the week before the election and lost by 3,000 votes to Matheson in a state that went 73% for Romney. Not likely!

http://www.change.org/petitions/united-states-federal-election-commission-we-demand-a-full-recount-of-the-2012-presidential-election

Military votes not counted?
http://nera.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=191%3Amilitary-ballots-not-counted&catid=81%3Ablog1&Itemid=148

The Columbus Dispatch reports, “Voter rolls in Ohio are bloated, experts say”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/09/16/voter-rolls-in-ohio-are-bloated-experts-say.html

An update on St. Lucie County, Florida:
http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/update-massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-called-into-question-141-turnout/

Video: More fraud from Florida, including kicking out an elderly poll observer doing his job using the police:
http://www.bizpacreview.com/elections-supervisor-calls-police-to-kick-elderly-allen-west-ballot-observer-out/

Townhall blogger Rachel Alexander reports:

Obama Likely Won Re-Election Through Election Fraud
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud

The Washington Times: Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters
http://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/

Here is a link to Allen West’s press release on the voter fraud situation in Florida:
http://bit.ly/TCYnUe

Newsmax reports: Voter Fraud Charges Begin in Ohio

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ohio-voter-registration-fraud/2012/11/03/id/462674

Darin Southam recommends TrueTheVote.org for some pre-election indications of potential voter fraud, but the page understates what actually happened in pretty much every swing state.
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures

And what do you think of this? This was way before the election, but apparently George Soros, who we have already established rigged an election in Hungary and was banned for it AND helped get Obama elected the first time... I’ll let you read the headline:

“Soros advises Obama to use forceful measures to override the will of the people”
http://redwhitebluenews.com/?p=12336

I think this goes well beyond the 900+ executive orders that go around Congress, more than three times the executive orders given by all previous US Presidents combined. We saw it in action Tuesday, November 6th!

A Tea Party group has posted this article, with interesting stats and some criticism for Romney for not standing up and doing something about it yet:
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/m/discussion?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A1108645

Personally I think as the case is strong enough, Mitt will do something. Too much is at stake, and as we just found out, Ohio is definitely Mitt’s, and Florida, too, just based on fraud in a few counties! Colorado, too!

Keep up the referrals and the sharing, everyone! Thank you SO much for helping America fix an election that has clearly been “fixed.”

Voter fraud cheapens the votes of the 60 million who picked Mitt to the point of nothingness and gives weight to those who in reality were the minority. If grand theft is defined as any theft over $5,000, what do you call the ONE BILLION times that that is likely to happen AGAIN over the next four years if we do not right this wrong?

Here is to our real President Elect and First Lady, Mitt and Ann Romney.

Posted by Jed M. Merrill at 1:56 PM 68 comments:


19 posted on 11/11/2012 5:14:01 PM PST by patriot08
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To: All



Sign the petition for a recount:

http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

Visit this site. They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/






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Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket

https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138



Must watch videos!


VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY



VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0



VIDEO- Michael Savage: How Obama fixed the 2012 election: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc



VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0



VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud: http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=player_embedded&v=k_rMpQKqZhM





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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!




20 posted on 11/11/2012 5:15:54 PM PST by patriot08
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To: doc
Well Doc, there is this pesky little phenomenon called Catch 22.
Even when its blatant vote fraud, who is it charged with investigating and prosecuting???? The party successfully doing the cheating.

One of the things W was planning on his DOJ doing was to go after voter fraud, then 9-11 happened and everything else was moved way down the priority line, including Voter Fraud.

Its very difficult to perpetrate Vote Fraud much beyond a few percentage points, just too many involved in the conspiracy. In 2008 and especially in 2012 there was just enough to put the dems over.

Hopefully, maybe in 2016 enough voters will be so fed up with the dems they will go wholehog Rep and then maybe Voter Fraud can find some prosecution priority, but its probably going to be so much to fix, it will again be somewhere on down the list of fixes needed.

This is one of many important things that may only be fixable by starting over from scratch to unpeel the crap the progressives have been jamming up the system with for more than a hundred years.

21 posted on 11/11/2012 5:20:41 PM PST by X-spurt (It is time for OFF YOUR FEET and on the gravy-train)
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