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The Voters who stayed Home (bitter pill: Republicans re-elected Obama)
National Review Online ^ | 11/10/12 | McCarthy

Posted on 11/11/2012 11:27:31 AM PST by pabianice

The key to understanding the 2012 election is simple: A huge slice of the electorate stayed home.

The punditocracy — which is more of the ruling class than an eye on the ruling class — has naturally decided that this is because Republicans are not enough like Democrats: They need to play more identity politics (in particular, adopt the Left’s embrace of illegal immigration) in order to be viable. But the story is not about who voted; it is about who didn’t vote. In truth, millions of Americans have decided that Republicans are not a viable alternative because they are already too much like Democrats. They are Washington. With no hope that a Romney administration or more Republicans in Congress would change this sad state of affairs, these voters shrugged their shoulders and became non-voters.

“This is the most important election of our lifetime.” That was the ubiquitous rally cry of Republican leaders. The country yawned. About 11 million fewer Americans voted for the two major-party candidates in 2012 — 119 million, down from 130 million in 2008. In fact, even though our population has steadily increased in the last eight years (adding 16 million to the 2004 estimate of 293 million Americans), about 2 million fewer Americans pulled the lever for Obama and Romney than for George W. Bush and John Kerry.

That is staggering.

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KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012analysis; 2012electionanalysis; andymccarthy; conservatives; cutoffnosevoters; elections; gop; gopcivilwar; gotv; obama; republicans; rinos; romney; romney2012; voterturnout
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Put aside the fact that, as the election played out, Sandy was a critical boost for the president. Let’s pretend that it was just a vote drain — one that explains at least some of the slight drop in young voters. What did it really cost Obama? Maybe a million votes? It doesn’t come close to accounting for the cratering of his support. Even if he had lost only 8 million votes, that would still have been 11 percent of his 2008 vote haul gone poof. Romney should have won going away.
1 posted on 11/11/2012 11:27:36 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Horrifying. But today on NBC’s Sunday morning show (heard on the radio), the Left was in full gloat mode, declaring white, working, patriotic America dead and buried and thank goodness.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 11:30:07 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: pabianice

gee imagine that, faced with an imperfect candidate people stay home and we get four more years of Obama because those bastards voted their ‘conscience’.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 11:32:32 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pabianice

Those who found themselves in some way to ethically superior to vote for Romney helped bring us Obama again. They deserve no mercy IMO.
I think those on the right knew darn well the stakes this time, so we had some messed up in the head not voting this time IMO.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 11:33:18 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pabianice

Two RINO candidates who DID NOT energize the conservative base, and you blame the people for voting their convictions?

If republicans want to WIN, they should do this;

SELECT a HISPANIC CONSERVATIVE (predict TED CRUZ 2016)

He’s a Tea Party Candidate!


5 posted on 11/11/2012 11:33:44 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: pabianice

Boo hoo. The real problem was allowing Democrats to help choose the GOP nominee in open primaries, so that the party was stuck with a multi-millionaire with Wall St. ties during a depression. What were they thinking?


6 posted on 11/11/2012 11:33:59 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: pabianice
The key to understanding the 2012 election is simple: A huge slice of the electorate stayed home.

Bullcrap. A huge slice of the electorate voted twice. A huge slice of the electorate didn't exist on 11/6/2012 (dead). A huge slice of the electorate was duplicate absentee ballots. A huge slice of the electorate were Republicans who had their votes expunged.

The media keeps trumpeting this "Republicans stayed home." Again. BS. The 'Rats stole this one with a 4 year coordinated, surgical strike on the voting process.

7 posted on 11/11/2012 11:34:10 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: pabianice

We are dead and buried, I hear nothing of what’s best for America. The republicans are talking gibberish about hey, let’ tax job creators, let’s accept illegal immigration, etc. Not a word about what is right or best.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 11:35:07 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: BereanBrain

Thanks a lot, Peabrain.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 11:35:35 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: pabianice

I don’t believe that for a minute. In Texas, the voter turn out DOUBLED.

2004 = 7 million

2008 = 8 million

2012 = 14 million


10 posted on 11/11/2012 11:36:03 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: pabianice

Gollygosh and Geewhizz.

Real Republicans (RINOs excepted) do not like being consistantly kicked in the nuts by Congressional Republican leaders.

WHOODA THUNK IT??? (Gone fishing, instead.)

What have they done for us after the big win in 2010??? Eh. weepy ‘ol Boner ‘l buddy????


11 posted on 11/11/2012 11:38:18 AM PST by Flintlock (PARANOIA--means having all the facts.)
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To: pabianice
Left was in full gloat mode, declaring white, working, patriotic America dead and buried and thank goodness

Count on that being the future of Amerika. The minorities will now be sticking it to da man. They'll be in your face with attitude. Better prepare for race riots.

12 posted on 11/11/2012 11:38:28 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Agree.

It’s not who votes. It’s who counts the votes.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 11:39:26 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: pabianice

BULLCRAP—it was FRAUD and nothing more...explain the non-English speaking Ethiopians BUSSED into Ohio to vote!!!!

Explain the 114% “turnout” in precincts.

Explain the small crowds for barry and HUGE crowds for Mitt, and then tell me people didn’t turn out to vote for the republican candidate.

I’m sick to death of the enemies on our side.


14 posted on 11/11/2012 11:40:05 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: driftdiver

Well, hello “Bastaaard” since when is not wishing to empower the “State” by voting for big G’ment a problem?


15 posted on 11/11/2012 11:41:10 AM PST by DanZ
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To: pabianice

We can’t forget the primaries were redesigned by Michael Steel to extend the primary season. At the time, it may have seemed like a good idea. However, the net effect was to drain money, force candidates to take positions that would paint them into a corner during the general election and force Republican food fights which turned a lot of voters off.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 11:41:53 AM PST by fso301
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To: pabianice

Every report I’ve seen had the polls busy.

I don’t think it’s so much that people didn’t show up at the polls, as that they didn’t show up in the count.


17 posted on 11/11/2012 11:42:33 AM PST by null and void (The One can steal an election, but no one can steal our country.)
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To: pabianice

O.K. people.... Let me tell you why the GOP lost. It was because the Obamanites loaded the polls with unregistered parasites who have no business voting. Obama had the media
as his personal propaganda machine. Millions of dollars came in under the table from enemies of our country... But the real reason the Republicans lost.....NO BALLS! The republicans will not fight back.


18 posted on 11/11/2012 11:42:55 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Absolutely right! However, neither McCain nor Romney had the cajones to call them on it. *spit*


19 posted on 11/11/2012 11:44:50 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: pabianice

The “voters stayed home” meme is now being pulled out of the Axelrod/Soros quiver. To steal an election, you do it by a slim margin to make it seem plausible, then follow up with unprovable but again plausible scenarios to silence those who remain unconvinced. Of course the suspect numbers are precisely what’s being used to support the faulty conclusion, but that’s just right wing nonsense. All the talking heads except Savage will run with this next week, mark my words. The polls were jam packed around here, some closed early even with people in line (Rio Rancho, NM). Everyone I know voted.


20 posted on 11/11/2012 11:45:32 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: TigerClaws
It’s not who votes. It’s who counts the votes.

The first part of that Stalin quote, the part you conveniently left out, is what's important.

21 posted on 11/11/2012 11:45:50 AM PST by null and void (The One can steal an election, but no one can steal our country.)
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To: fso301

The Republican Primary process is FUBAR.

Here’s the way to do it.

1. Primaries are in the order of states where Republicans did best in the last General Election. The whole process is to take less than two months.

2. No more than three candidates, to be chosen by a committee.

3. No debating between the candidates, win on your own merits, not by tearing down the other candidates, and providing fodder for our political enemies.


22 posted on 11/11/2012 11:46:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Besides stuffing the ballots, the major fraud is in the “lost” ballots of all those owerwhelmingly republican districts. My ass low turnout!!!


23 posted on 11/11/2012 11:47:50 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepissed)
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To: DanZ

Yes I’m sure the guys in the landing craft on D-Day wanted a better boat. I’m sure glad they didn’t vote their “Conscience”.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 11:49:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pabianice

I don’t buy it.

I don’t buy the numbers.

I don’t buy that they know “who” stayed home either.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 11:50:22 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: pabianice
If we want voters to show up and choose, we need to provide voters with a choice to be made. Liberal A vs. liberal B is not a choice worthy of a trip to the polls. And, for those of you who think that Romney is not a liberal, you should watch this video and, if necessary, watch it again and again until it sinks into your head.

We cannot turn this country around until we stop voting for liberals, period.

26 posted on 11/11/2012 11:52:02 AM PST by Tau Food (Praise God. Trust God.)
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To: pabianice

Right so it is the fault of Conservatives like me that Mittens lost, granted that the Rove Wing of the Parry rigged the nomination process in their favor and used the failed 2008 playbook of John McCain in the hopes of different results, now it is our fault, right!


27 posted on 11/11/2012 11:52:10 AM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: pabianice

This article is idiotic garbage.

The simple answer is that millions of votes haven’t been counted yet. Only a moron would compare the 2012 vote total a couple days after the election to the certified final vote total from 2008.

It’s very clear Romney received more votes than McCain.

There are 3 million unprocessed ballots in California ALONE. New York state only has about 86% of its votes counted.

See also.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/there-are-no-missing-voters


28 posted on 11/11/2012 11:53:38 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: driftdiver

Enjoy your “ conscience” for the next 4 years.
In you stayed home STFU you lost any right to bitch about Obama or what he’s going to do.


29 posted on 11/11/2012 11:54:40 AM PST by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: pabianice
Will the people around here old enough to remember the 1990’s please speak up, because this is nothing but a re-run of 1994-1996.

Thanks to a jug eared egotistical moron we got stuck with clintoon in ‘94. Two years later conservatives rose up in mass (without a catchy name like ‘tea party’) and handed the ‘bent one’ his a$$ on a plate. All that was left was to wait two years and kick the dirt bag to the curb (any of this sound familiar yet?).

And what happened two years later?

After another long, screwed up, confusing primary, we got Dole. A man all conservatives respected, but also a politician no one trusted. And the result?

Four more years of ‘the bent one’, and conservatives wondering how it could happen. And sixteen years later almost the EXACT scenario plays out again.

And again conservatives wondering how it could happen.

(Hint - it happens because we have some pathological resistance to FINISHING the enemy off!!! We knock them down and then let them survive.)

30 posted on 11/11/2012 11:55:39 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Kozak

Bingo. No excuses for these morons and idiots all now coming out of the woodwork now.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 11:55:52 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: pabianice

The GOPe is not capable of lofting people like Dole, McCain, or Romney any longer, if it wants to win elections.

It’s that simple.

When it pulls it’s collective head out of it’s ass, and helps us nominate solid citizens for office, we’ll see some different outcomes.

Until then, I’ll just sit here and watch others blame the sound Conservatives who’ve had enough.

I voted for Romney. You folks don’t know how close I came to not doing so. We simply MUST quit playing the RNC’s game here.

Voting in RINO Republicans has as nearly destroyed our nation as voting in Clintons and Obamas.

We need to go Right, not status quo middle when our folks are in the White House.

If were not going to do that, then guess what, a lot of folks are going to stay home. And why shouldn’t they.

Give us right, or go pound sand. When you get tired of seeing guys like Clinton and Obama get elected, come back and talk to us.

Give us a Conservative to vote for, and we’ll be there all the way.


32 posted on 11/11/2012 11:57:26 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Strategerist

What about all the lost military votes?

We won the election. We lost the counting


33 posted on 11/11/2012 11:58:01 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Agree .... Takers took twice.


34 posted on 11/11/2012 11:58:07 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: fso301

The primary selection process is really bad. There needs to be ONE day for ALL states to vote for the candidate of their choice. The candidate with the most votes wins the primary. There could be a run-off if necessary between the top two, where again, one voting day for the whole country. I, living in Texas, had no voice in who won the primary and many others didn’t either. Why is that process so screwed up?


35 posted on 11/11/2012 11:58:40 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: pabianice

We need to defund the beast.


36 posted on 11/11/2012 11:58:53 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Kozak

I voted for the best of two bad candidates. But I agree with your sentiment for those that consider themselves more important then the country.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 11:59:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pabianice

I was a Newt voter in February but I realized it was more important for the country and went to vote with a clear head for Romney. Don’t call me a RINO. I know full well I would have had some major problems with some of Governor Romney’s policies if he became president but four more years of this administration is a far greater risk to the country’s existence than Mitt Romney would have been. I understand conservatives angry at the establishment for pushing one moderate after another to get the nomination but was it worth it to stay home in this particular year?


38 posted on 11/11/2012 11:59:48 AM PST by dowcaet ( for)
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To: BereanBrain
SELECT a HISPANIC CONSERVATIVE (predict TED CRUZ 2016)

Unfortunately, Ted Cruz was born in Calgary Canada, he does not meet the Constitutional requirements to be POTUS.

39 posted on 11/11/2012 12:00:31 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: driftdiver

Great post. You can bet the “Greatest Generation” would not have set this one out. All you conservatives/republicans who sat this one out...hope you don’t have kids...because you just punched ‘em in the face. What will you say when your grandkids ask...”What did you do to protect our Republic in the Great Election of 2012?”


40 posted on 11/11/2012 12:00:31 PM PST by PsyOps
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To: pabianice
It's simple...other than the vote fraud, obama promises his constituents what they want....

The GOPe promises its constituents what the GOPe wants.

The "reach across the aisle" has turned into "giving the dems a reach around", while they sock it to us.
41 posted on 11/11/2012 12:01:56 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: bgill

14 million for Texas? Looks like 8 million here.


42 posted on 11/11/2012 12:02:07 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: null and void

I can almost hear Tony Bennett crooning “I left my vote in Barcelona”. That of course is where SCYTL’s corporate headquarters are located.


43 posted on 11/11/2012 12:02:08 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Kozak
Enjoy your “ conscience” for the next 4 years. In you stayed home STFU you lost any right to bitch about Obama or what he’s going to do.""""""".......

Add to that thought, if you voted "Other"........

we had one last shot.....it's gone based on pricipals......

44 posted on 11/11/2012 12:03:20 PM PST by annieokie
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To: txrefugee
The real problem was allowing Democrats to help choose the GOP nominee in open primaries,

No wonder we're known as the party of "stupid"

What's worse is the GOP won't change for next time....what is otherwise known as stepping on your own d**k.

45 posted on 11/11/2012 12:03:20 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: driftdiver
gee imagine that, faced with an imperfect candidate people stay home and we get four more years of Obama because those bastards voted their ‘conscience’.

And we will do it EVERY TIME the RNC pushes such a LAME candidate in our faces and has jerks like the ones seen here on FR these days saying, "Vote for him or ELSE!"

You blamers are SO pathetic!

Suck it up and work for an ELECTABLE candidate next time.

46 posted on 11/11/2012 12:04:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pabianice

Those Republicans who “stayed at home”should be condemned in the harshest language!!People who think Obama’s first term was a Failure are IGNORANT!!!His first term was a resounding SUCCESS!!!!He has expanded government and gotten his ObamaCare and INCREASED DRAMATICALLY dependence on government!!!!!These were(and are)his goals and those who are”pulling his strings”!!!!!!Watch what he does now that he doesn’t need re-election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 11/11/2012 12:04:16 PM PST by bandleader
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To: SpaceBar
I can almost hear Tony Bennett crooning “I left my vote in Barcelona”.

Tony voted for Obama, he's a raging moonbat.

48 posted on 11/11/2012 12:04:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Leo Carpathian; Bloody Sam Roberts; GeronL

Look, I hate to break it to you guys, but we lost. Do you honestly believe that there was a concerted national effort throw away Republican ballots all over the country?? For crying out loud, the guy running this forum said he wasn’t even voting for Romney!!

Did the Dems stuff ballots? Absolutely. But that still doesn’t answer the question as to why Republicans in droves stayed home. And the pollsters were dead on the money.

If you think this was just a massive, national conspiracy to actively throw away Republican ballots, I don’t know what to tell you. Sometimes... you just lose. Whining about it won’t solve the problem.


49 posted on 11/11/2012 12:04:34 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: pabianice

oh for crying out loud when will the cowards learn that this was not about republicans not turning up it was a rigged election and we’re finding out more around the country and so is Allen West.

Fed up of seeing articles by the cowards saying we did not turn up and yet 8 millions did not turn up either for his side,.

That is crap


50 posted on 11/11/2012 12:04:58 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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