Skip to comments.Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 11 November 2012
Posted on 11/11/2012 5:06:53 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
November 11th, 2012
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., Bob Corker, R-Tenn., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Reps. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., and Tom Price, R-Ga.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens. Chuck U. Schumer, D-N.Y., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla.; Rep.-elect Joaquin Castro, D-Texas.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): David Axelrod, adviser to President Barack Obama's re-election campaign; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., and Patty Murray, D-Wash.; Reps. Donna Edwards, D-Md., and Aaron Schock, R-Ill.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., and Reps. Peter King, R-N.Y., and Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash.; Gov. Jerry Brown, D-Calif.; former Gov. Jon Huntsman, R-Utah; former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Gary Bauer, president of American Values.
12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"
1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"
2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"
3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "Late Edition"
4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"
Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!
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I wrote this last February although I did fall for the false gold hoping Romney could win. Even then we all feared this was going to happen:
This is how we know that LOVE is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. 1 John 3:16
We just lost a special election here in Oregon where the establishment ran a self described moderate and lost twice in a row. When all of the experts try to explain that you have to run the perfect candidate to satisfy the moderates you need to ask them by what proof do they come up with that truth? There is more proof of Global Warming than moderate candidates win. As they point to all the Tea Party candidates who cost us elections we have seen in Blue Oregon that moderates dont fare any better and will be painted as rabid conservatives so why not run rabid conservatives who can defend themselves.
We ran a really nice guy who has a great family and is a small business owner who in many ways agrees with conservatives however he never really understood conservatism or how it relates to freedom. He not only didnt have the ability to articulate it but he was told to make sure not to say anything that would offend the moderates or the media so he didnt. Not only that, the campaign as well as the Party used every means possible to make sure the volunteers never came in contact with the people to potentially say something that would offend them or the media. So to control the message and make sure no Tea Party message went out they ran the entire outreach by phone. What we ended up with was a vanilla campaign and unenthused voters who never showed up with their ballots.
The excuses are as varied as the imaginations of those who ran this anemic campaign, from being outspent 5 to 1 or a 14% voter registration margin to mailers that lied, but in the end the Republicans never showed up. When you dont excite the conservatives you dont get the money or their votes. These of course are obstacles to a campaign but they can be overcome by an aggressive attack with a candidate who can take the fight to the enemy. You will never beat the Dems by playing defense since they will always fire up their troops and get their voters out at the end.
We tried helping by running a strictly grassroots campaign to try to finally break the 35 year drought our district has had electing Dems and in the end couldnt do it. We were hamstrung by the Party and the campaign to the point of our precinct organizers being told not to organize their precincts or go door to door for fear of them saying the wrong thing. When they were asked if they could go door to door to bring in the ballots for our vote by mail we were told absolutely not, they only wanted phone callers and nothing else. This is so they could protect their precious message of nothingness.
As bad and incompetent as this campaign may have appeared it is a perfect mirror of what the Mitt campaign will look like. Just like Oregon the national experts know exactly how and who to promote to win the election and manage the message. They believe they have the perfect vanilla anti-Tea Party message to win over those movable moderates when what they think they know is the exact opposite. Nationally we need a strong crusader for our message to move and educate those moderates or we will have the same exact result we had for our election. There is no difference between Oregon and the liberal cities. The free stuff message Ohbummer will be spreading which will be going against a stiff liberal Republican trying to outgive him and will never work.
With Mittwit we are heading down the path of destruction of the Party. Not only will it further divide the Tea Party from the Country Club as it did here it has almost zero chance of succeeding. We need to unite the Party and the only one who has a chance of doing that is a Conservative. A Conservative can bring the Tea Party on board where half of your activists exist as well as reluctantly bring the Country Club as they have to compare him to Ocommie which should be no comparison even to them. Our election should be a huge warning that in a district that could have been won was lost by the experts in the Country Club who manipulated, bought and used Stalinist central planning techniques to manage the loss. They will blame the voter imbalance, money and any number of excuses but it is a very good primer of what is going to happen in the fall if we nominate Romney who does not generate enthusiasm from the Conservative base and the Party relies on moderating their way to victory. His stiff demeanor will not connect with liberals and will be painted as a radical, rich, old guy Conservative no matter how liberal he actually is. He will have no defense against those charges other than being more liberal and alienating the base who wont vote.
The bottom line is here in Oregon we were lectured and manipulated by the so called experts how this candidate gave us the perfect opportunity to win and the experts were wrong. These experts are either incompetent, corrupt or in alliance with the other side. In the end they get paid the same whether the candidate wins or loses so what have they got to lose. These managers are not ideologues but hired guns to manage a campaign and as long as the phone calls are being made and meetings being attended then the losses were managed well. Choose wisely because there are some powerful people wanting this election to turn out exactly how they want it and right now is going according to plan, just like ours did. Dont let happen what happened to Oregon happen to America so be a bit pragmatic to unite and bust your butt behind Gingrich to defeat the Country Club. He is not perfect but right now it is him or the Country Club and a sure loss to Obama just like Oregon.
Pray for America
Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Brays. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.
Good Morning All on the first Sunday after the death of the great American experiment
1. The so-called bush Tax Cuts expire January 2012. They will NOT be renewed. Taxes will go up substantially. And not just for the rich, but everyone paying will see a cut in their paychecks. For the bottom rung of taxpayers, enough to buy a muffler, thank you Tom Dashole. From there on up, more. For some, lots more.
2. Obamacare. We all thought the Supremes would end it. They did not. We had one out, and that was this election. Face it, Obamacare is the law of the land. With several thousand pages of regulations and sub-directives, we have yet to understand just how bad this is going to be.
3. Sequestration and cuts to the military. It is on, the chopping block now feels the axe. What will be left? I am a military retiree with health problems. I’m soooo screwed.
4. The media won on creating the popular meme that Republicans and TEA partiers are racist, Bible-thumping haters.
5. Did anyone mention that not only did Alan West lose* but Alan Grayson got his job back?
I do not blame Romney. Let's face it folks, the driveby media won this one. I've spent years on this thread pointing that out.
The real enemy hosts these shows we gather to watch.
*Still being fought!
So ..... election gloating (Axelrat & the other Dems?) this morning or now that there is ‘sex’ involved, will the discussion be about Petraeus resigning?
We need to come up with a good name for the so-called media after the debacle over their non-coverage of Benghazi, cheerleading the horrible economy as a ‘recovery’, and their modus operandi of having their heads up Obama’s butt at all times. LSM doesn’t cut it any more. Obamamedia? Goes along with Obamacare, Obamasizing (layoffs, etc after Obama election), & Obamazombies (my name for anyone braindead enough to vote for the destruction of America).
Anyway, maybe I can control my gag reflex enough this morning to take a gander at the TV .... otherwise, I’ll just follow here on FR ... thanks for the thread!
11-6-2012 = Proverbs 26:11
Did not realize Grayson got his seat back. Now I’m even more depressed.
These experts are either incompetent, corrupt or in alliance with the other side.
They are likely in alliance with the other side. Where did these experts go to school? What were their majors when in school?
BUT they never will.
They are shameless quislings to their Profession and America.
Instead, even PRAVDA and the Canadian Press
will follow it up, first.
I predict on “Face the Nation” Sen. Lindsey Graham(RINO) will change his party to Democrat. Probably Not! But I am positive that he will sound like one. (Blame Tea Party, Call for Imigration Reform [Grahamnesty 2], call for all Republicans to “fall in line” with President Obama’s plans. Either way MS. Lindsey is toast in SC 2014! Hopefully Congressman Trey Gowdy will step up and run.
I’m not going to watch. I watched Fox run with the pack to many times against Romney. I watched the other channels ignore all the bad news about Obama. Thats their president now and I take no blame for it.
Agreed, the media bias has brainwashed half the voters, but not half the country. We must continue to do their jobs, and not just here among ourselves as I see is part the problem of the media getting away with campaigning for Democrats and going negative on anything Conservative.
If it's difficult to turn off ALL media all the time, then let's agree to one at a time. NBC News programs are my suggestion and new practice. No MTP, Morning Joe, Today, Brian Williams, MSNBC, Rock Center. None, Nada, Zip. They're all slime, but NBC seems the worst offender.
I'm happy to catch summaries of MTP here. If none of us watch, we'll have to wait for the details, but by and large it's meaningless propaganda anyway
We know their ratings are weak and getting weaker across the various platforms, perhaps even extending beyond news. My goal, our goal, is to put them out of business with a final killing financial shiv. Old media proved they're not quite dead. Yet. I say kill 'em.
Very good, Chiller.
I do agree: NBC=MSNBC. They’ve made their choice; hard left leaning forward.
Now, how can we organize such a thing?
How about them Senate candidates kids? Weren’t they swell?
We simply must purge the RNC and focus on putting together a conservative field of candidates for 2014.
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