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Boehner Tells House G.O.P. to Fall in Line
ny times ^ | 11/10/2012 | By JONATHAN WEISMAN and JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 11/10/2012 7:53:35 PM PST by tobyhill

On a conference call with House Republicans a day after the party’s electoral battering last week, Speaker John A. Boehner dished out some bitter medicine, and for the first time in the 112th Congress, most members took their dose.

Their party lost, badly, Mr. Boehner said, and while Republicans would still control the House and would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases as Congress grapples with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.

Members on the call, subdued and dark, murmured words of support — even a few who had been a thorn in the speaker’s side for much of this Congress.

It was a striking contrast to a similar call last year, when Mr. Boehner tried to persuade members to compromise with Democrats on a deal to extend a temporary cut in payroll taxes, only to have them loudly revolt.

With President Obama re-elected and Democrats cementing control of the Senate, Mr. Boehner will need to capitalize on the chastened faction of the House G.O.P. that wants to cut a deal to avert sudden tax increases and across-the-board spending cuts in January that could send the economy back into recession. After spending two years marooned between the will of his loud and fractious members and the Democratic Senate majority, the speaker is trying to assert control, and many members seem to be offering support.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; boehner; gopcivilwar; idiotsdidntvote4mitt; kingboehner; obama; rinotyrantboehner; weep4america
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No more running Conservative candidates against Republicans in the primaries, run them in the General Election even if it gives the Rats more seats if we lose. The GOP has alienated us for the last time.
1 posted on 11/10/2012 7:53:42 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Who made him king? He wouldn’t even be Speaker if other states didn’t have more sense than Ohio. Dump him, and do it on the first day back. Make Rand Paul Speaker and watch the fur fly.


2 posted on 11/10/2012 7:55:33 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: tobyhill

Time for all of you guys to register as independent!!


3 posted on 11/10/2012 7:58:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tobyhill

Why does the GOP do things like allow the NYT to listen in on their conference calls?


4 posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:03 PM PST by skeeter
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To: tobyhill

NY Times is nothing more than a communist propaganda machine and has been agitating against the best interests of the American people since it’s founding, especially during Honest Apes war of aggression on the Sons of the Founders.

They are the enemy within, and will eventually face the consequences of their actions.


5 posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:31 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY)
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To: tobyhill

Funny how Nancy Pelosi never let being minority leader stop her from doing anything.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:37 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: GeronL

I’ll register as The Conservative Party.


7 posted on 11/10/2012 8:00:18 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Exactly what Rush said do. Let the Dims have everything they want


8 posted on 11/10/2012 8:00:19 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: GeronL

Time for the Texas GOP to withdraw from the National GOP and take our 38 EVs with us.


9 posted on 11/10/2012 8:00:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: skeeter

“the speaker is trying to assert control,”

That’s the phrase one has to look at. Under his watch and Priebus, the GOP faltered. Why would they listen to this clown?


10 posted on 11/10/2012 8:01:44 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: WKB

Exactly what Rush said do. Let the Dims have everything they want


Rush also gave us “Operation Chaos” in 2008. That led to Obama in the first place!


11 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:06 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: WKB

They can do that without providing them the bipartisan cover they want.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:26 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: tobyhill

FU Bonehead and Cantor.
We are truly living in the most leaderless times in this country’s history.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:41 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tobyhill
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14 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Shadow44

How do we know this is truthful? It is the NYT after all. I’m at the point of not caring any more. Boehner is a useless POS - always was and always will be. Let America sink - I don’t have a lot of fight left in me after this fraudulent election. I’m sick of the Republicans just rolling over and taking whatever the left dishes out. So, let it all go down the drain, and the RINOs with it.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 8:02:43 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: dfwgator

That would be awesome but I doubt it would do that. It might be time to start launching Conservative or Conservative Parties in all states and getting them ballot status.


16 posted on 11/10/2012 8:03:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tobyhill

Give the Democrats their tax rate increases, and let everyone know that Democrats are getting what they want.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 8:03:28 PM PST by pallis
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To: dfwgator

That would be awesome but I doubt it would do that. It might be time to start launching Conservative or Constitution Parties in all states and getting them ballot status.


18 posted on 11/10/2012 8:03:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I was telling my daughter about Operation Chaos earlier today. Rush started this and it backfired on us.


19 posted on 11/10/2012 8:04:24 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: tobyhill
Time for Conservatives to divorce the GOP

The dem's would just love that. Instead of facing one party, the dem's would face two mini-parties who would divide the conservative vote.

Since America has no run-off system, the end result: dem's win every election.

So what's the alternative? Conservatives have to rally around one good candidate early in the primaries. We continually split our primary votes and let the weak centrists slip through.

A better alternative would be some sort of run-off system, but that would require a constitutional amendment. Very tough.

20 posted on 11/10/2012 8:04:33 PM PST by Leaning Right
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To: WKB
If Boehner enters any negotiations then he is taking responsibility for it. Boehner doesn’t have to do a thing and Obama gets his way, higher taxes.
21 posted on 11/10/2012 8:05:46 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
Mr. Obama has continued to press his point that he campaigned clearly on a call to allow taxes to rise on the rich. Otherwise, he has said, the poor and middle class would bear all the burden of deficit reduction.

Obama's voters said" Who gives a hoot about the deficit?" That's union members grabbing at their pensions and all the rest of it, Krugman, "It doesn't matter, " etc., etc. The Republicans voters will punish them for giving in on the debt, especially if they allow funding of Obamacare.

22 posted on 11/10/2012 8:06:23 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: tobyhill

Time to ride Bonehead out of the Capital building on a rail and on national TV. I wonder what this administration has on him. You don’t suppose the SHTF with Petraeus has him worried do ya?


23 posted on 11/10/2012 8:06:23 PM PST by Errant
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To: Catsrus

You said it your self.
Bonehead has a history of screwing conservatives.
How do u predict future behavior?
By past behavior.


24 posted on 11/10/2012 8:06:34 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tobyhill

Boehner needs to go. We need a leader in the House that will fight like Patton, not a politician.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:12 PM PST by rockinqsranch
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To: tobyhill
I wonder if this warrants a note to my us rep. I think Boehner is a lousy poker player and we could do better with someone else or form a 3rd party and let the dems be speaker.

It's all going down the hopper anyway. Senate ignores everything passed.

26 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:28 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: GeronL

A third party can only succeed if it is formed by the splitting off of the Republican Party. I believe if the Texas delegation leaves, many other states would quickly join them in the revolt.


27 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: WKB
Let the Dims have everything they want

higher taxes and no real spending cuts?

28 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:56 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: tobyhill

Excuse my ignorance, but since we get a new congress in January, isn’t there a vote for speaker? We sure need a new one.


29 posted on 11/10/2012 8:08:19 PM PST by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: tobyhill; All
Speaker of the House John "Weepin' / Wet Noddle" Boehner
should resign as Speaker of the House
& resign @ the end of his next term in office (just retire)..way too old to cook in the kitchen..SO GET OUT

30 posted on 11/10/2012 8:10:22 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth. - RWR 8-)
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To: WKB
Exactly what Rush said do. Let the Dims have everything they want

Rush is wrong here, in my humble opinion. If the GOP gives in, the resulting disaster would STILL be blamed on everyone else but the dem's.

The MSM would blame Europe, China, conservative PAC's, Clint Eastwood, sunspots, etc., etc. And most people would believe it.

Better that the House go into a prevent mode and hope that another Reagan appears before 2016.

31 posted on 11/10/2012 8:11:10 PM PST by Leaning Right
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To: tobyhill

Treasonous RINO:
Our Fast&Furious, our ObamaCARE nightmare from which WE are excused,
Benghazi and our coverup, and my support for increased taxation, open borders, and the Moslem Brotherhood
is now a "done deal". Like Colin Powell, and Chris Christie, you can absolutely count on me. Take it to the Bank.”



32 posted on 11/10/2012 8:11:10 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Leaning Right
The dem's would just love that. Instead of facing one party, the dem's would face two mini-parties who would divide the conservative vote.

Since America has no run-off system, the end result: dem's win every election.

We are a winner take all two party system with no chance for coalition government. In general elections, especially at the national level, most of us will always have to vote for the least bad option.

All this bluster about starting a new party is nonsense. There are deadenders every cycle who will waste their votes on such silliness, but they will never amount to squat.

Yes, conservatives need to get behind primary candidates early - but we need GOOD candidates. We are struggling mightily at the state and national level and part of that problem is (at the state level anyway) is nominating poor candidates. People like Angle, O'Donnell, Akin, etc, are awful. We need to avoid those kind of joke candidates. Nationally, goofballs like Herman Cain need to be weeded out right away. That so many conservatives were rallying around a guy running a glorified book tour (paid for by campaign contributions) was just pathetic. We need conservatives that are polished candidates, skilled politicians and happy warriors.

34 posted on 11/10/2012 8:13:35 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: tobyhill

The Republican Party needs to stick to Conservative principles and Conservative candidates.

If we begin to chase power and control at the price of our values, we are lost as a country and the Constitutional Republic has failed.

FIRE BOEHNER!


35 posted on 11/10/2012 8:14:28 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: txrefugee

You do realize Rand is a senator and NOT in the House?


36 posted on 11/10/2012 8:15:21 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: WayneM

The rino establishment types will ensure we get someone just as rino as boehner if not more.


37 posted on 11/10/2012 8:17:00 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Just quoting Rush


38 posted on 11/10/2012 8:18:03 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: Longbow1969

We need to dump people lik Crist, Spectre and other liberal Republicans more than anything.


39 posted on 11/10/2012 8:18:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tobyhill
Time for the return of the "Minute Man" !

Trouble is - Americans have become a nation of "Spineless Wimps" !

40 posted on 11/10/2012 8:19:21 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: G Larry
The GOP establishment has made it clear that Boehner is there to stay.
41 posted on 11/10/2012 8:19:36 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE; Catsrus

You’re full of sh!t newby.


I didn’t realize this was a union shop where seniority holds such great esteem. Catsrus signed up in 2009. Is Catsrus also “full of sh!t?

What part of my comment indicates “sh!t volume?”

The truth is, “Operation Chaos” was Rush’s baby. It fulfilled its purpose of stopping Hillary. We’re stuck with the unintended consequence.


42 posted on 11/10/2012 8:20:03 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: WayneM
The GOP House members has already indicated that they will stick with Boehner, even at the expense of Conservatives.
43 posted on 11/10/2012 8:21:26 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Rush also gave us “Operation Chaos” in 2008. That led to Obama in the first place!

Are peoples memories really so short that they can't remember what happened 4 years ago. Operation Chaos was where Rush encouraged Republicans to cross-over and vote for Hillary in order to prevent Obama from wrapping up the nomination early. How in the world did that give us Obama?

44 posted on 11/10/2012 8:21:31 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Leaning Right

I tend to agree. It will be Bush’s fault. If he had not cut taxes in the first place Obama would not have to raise them.


45 posted on 11/10/2012 8:21:43 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: tobyhill

i say let Obozo have everything he wants!

Then let the Obozo voters see what an Obozo world looks like.In 2016 we won’t even have to run election ads.


46 posted on 11/10/2012 8:22:22 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: tobyhill
Once again. 3rd parties always failed, fail now, and will fail in the future. Your so called third party conservative candidate will get 1% of vote like always. That's the way it is. Period.

Time for us to stop bitching and actually do the WORK to make sure good candidates win in primaries and win in the general. It's time for us to make sure conservatives control the republican party. That takes work and organization, which keyboard commandos need to learn.

Party leadership will be decided in the next two months. Local and State. What are YOU doing to make sure the leadership is conservative?

47 posted on 11/10/2012 8:22:36 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I forgot about that


48 posted on 11/10/2012 8:23:25 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: txrefugee
Make Rand Paul Speaker and watch the fur fly.

Say, isn't Rand Paul a senator?

49 posted on 11/10/2012 8:23:48 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Shuster: ... At the time of Limbaugh's remarks, John McCain had practically wrapped up the Republican nomination, and Barack Obama had reeled off 11 straight Democratic victories. That's when the Clinton campaign launched its kitchen sink strategy and Limbaugh launched his vote-for-Hillary strategy. Did it work? Approximately 119,000 Texas Republicans voted for her in a state where Clinton's margin of overall victory over Obama was about 101,000. In other words, Republicans helped turn a virtual draw into a slight Clinton victory. While Obama won Mississippi in a landslide, Republicans favored Clinton three-to-one. Swelling her vote totals is costing Obama, according to analysts, a few delegates. The next big Democratic primary in Pennsylvania is a closed contest, meaning registered Democrats only. But Republican tactical voting is still a potential factor in Indiana, Montana, and Puerto Rico, and conservatives who identify themselves as independents can vote in North Carolina and West Virginia. That means out of the nine remaining major Democratic contests, conservatives could cause mischief in five of them. The question is, will it make any difference or not?

RUSH: Mr. Shuster, don't forget Pennsylvania. You left it out there. We have operatives who are registering Democrat up until March 25th to vote for Hillary in Pennsylvania. It is happening there, too. Operation Chaos, Rush the Vote, exceeding all objectives. Now, on Hardball, Chris Matthews hosting former New York City Mayoral candidate Mark Green. He's also the president of Air America, whose audience you could put in a thimble, phone booth certainly. Matthews says, "Mark, what do you think here? Is this going to be the greatest example of political sabotage in history? Republicans sneak into Democrat voting booths, elect the candidate that they think is easiest to beat? Not always right, by the way, there were a lot of Democrats that rooted for Reagan to win the nomination only to learn he could beat any Democrat."

50 posted on 11/10/2012 8:25:16 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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