Posted on 11/10/2012 12:13:30 AM PST by JerseyanExile
Apart from some fatuous self-congratulation from Asian-American liberals, there has been very little discussion of the 73-26 Asian-American margin of support for President Obama in last Tuesday’s election. That’s slightly smaller than the highest estimate of Latino support for Obama, at 75-23. Asian-Americans are a small minority now but their numbers are growing rapidly.
Most conservatives consider Asian-Americans poster-children for the American model of self-motivated success. The facts bear this out. The Pew Research Center reported last July:
Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States. They are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success…
Asians recently passed Hispanics as the largest group of new immigrants to the United States. The educational credentials of these recent arrivals are striking. More than six-in-ten (61%) adults ages 25 to 64 who have come from Asia in recent years have at least a bachelor’s degree. This is double the share among recent non-Asian arrivals, and almost surely makes the recent Asian arrivals the most highly educated cohort of immigrants in U.S. history.
Compared with the educational attainment of the population in their country of origin, recent Asian immigrants also stand out as a select group. For example, about 27% of adults ages 25 to 64 in South Korea and 25% in Japan have a bachelor’s degree or more.2In contrast, nearly 70% of comparably aged recent immigrants from these two countries have at least a bachelor’s degree.
Asian-American kids occupy nearly three-quarters of the places at New York City’s exam-based high schools (including Bronx Science and Stuyvesant) although they comprise less than 12% of the student population. The main threat to the upward striving of working-class immigrant kids who study hard to get into top schools is the NAACP. The New York Times reported Oct. 15:
NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund and other groups filed a racial bias complaint with the United States Education Department. They charge that reliance on a single test for determining who gets into Bronx Science and seven other specialized high schools discriminates against young African-Americans and Latinos. Other factors, like student grades, need to be considered as well, they say.
Asians “also stand out for their strong emphasis on family,” the Pew study reported. “More than half (54%) say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in life; just 34% of all American adults agree. Two-thirds of Asian-American adults (67%) say that being a good parent is one of the most important things in life; just 50% of all adults agree.”
If the Republican Party can’t win the support of the immigrant group with the strongest family values and the most success in achieving the American dream, what can it say to the Hispanics, the immigrant group with the least success in achieving the American dream?
I do not mean to be glib. The issue requires study. But I will venture a guess: Asian-Americans, like any other immigrant group, come here with the hope of bringing family members with them. Tough enforcement of immigration laws makes life as hard for them as it does for any other immigrant group, and frustrates their hope of reuniting families in America. The result of our present immigration laws is that we fail to keep out the illegals we don’t want, and make it harder to absorb the skilled and energetic immigrants we do want. There will be endless discussion during the next few months of Romney’s mistake in moving to the right of Rick Perry on immigration during the Republican primaries, and I will leave the detailed parsing to the professionals. I hope the professionals talk to Asian-Americans first.
America is unlikely to tolerate ethnic quotas (Asians in, Hispanics out). There are plenty of bright Hispanics as well (with 25% unemployment in Spain, German firms are recruiting Spanish engineers to fill the 30,000 job openings for engineers in Germany). But there is a sensible way to encourage the kind of immigration that boosts economic growth and discourage the kind of immigration that impedes economic growth.
The distinguished Canadian economist Prof. Reuven Brenner of McGill University wrote two years ago in First Things magazine:
Without innovation, America faces prolonged stagnation. The outlook seems bleak. Between 1988 and 1998, manufacturing productive growth rose from less than 2 percent to more than 5 percent per annum. By 2008, it had fallen back to the 2 percent range as the great wave of innovation abated. This outcome is not inevitable, however. America has been obtaining a disproportionate flow of skilled innovators by attracting these “vital few” to its shores. Without their contribution, America may neither sustain the economic growth required to absorb the penurious many nor raise their standards of living. The impact of the vital few does trickle down…
The problem lies in policy. American sentiment toward immigrants has swung from boomtown hospitality to churlish xenophobia in the course of the present recession…
It is hard to blame opponents of immigration. Earlier this year, the Pew Hispanic Center reported that California’s estimated 2.7 million illegal residents—7 percent of the state’s population—add $4 billion to $6 billion in costs. Cutting off state payments for the American-born children of immigrants supposedly would save about $640 million a year. By similar estimates, Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year. Whether these estimates are exact or only in the ballpark, it is clear that poor migrants drain state finances under the present institutional and regulatory landscape, and the drain is substantial.
…The least the United States can do is try, explicitly, to attract the vital few to its shores and, at the same time, speed up the domestic production of talent.
…Congress should first increase visas for skilled immigrants—those who would invest in their own entrepreneurial ventures in the United States in particular. Congress also should facilitate a temporary worker program, but without instantaneously bestowing on those workers the many monetary government benefits for which America’s already taxpaying citizens are eligible. For immigrants in the United States who do not have proper documentation but who have built up equity in this country, opportunities should be provided to obtain legalization if they can demonstrate good moral character. Such an “earned” legalization should be achievable and verifiable in an accountable manner.
As Prof. Brenner observes, immigrants have made a disproportionate contribution to American economic growth in recent years. “At the height of the last tech boom in 1999, Chinese and Indian engineers were at the helm of 24 percent of the technology companies started in Silicon Valley,” he writes, adding:
In 25.3 percent of [high-tech and engineering] companies, at least one key founder was foreign-born.
• Of all immigrant-founded companies, 26 percent had Indian founders; 7 percent had founders of British and Chinese origin; 6 percent had founders from Taiwan; Japanese and German founders each led 5 percent; 4 percent had founders from Israel; 3 percent had founders from Canada; and 2.5 percent had founders from Iran.
• In Massachusetts the single largest founding group was Israelis, at 17 percent.
• Indian entrepreneurs dominated in New Jersey, leading 47 percent of all immigrant-founded start-ups.
• Immigrants also represented 24.2 percent of international patent applications filed from the United States in 2006. Chinese filed the largest number of patents, followed by Indians, Canadians, and British.
If we Republicans can’t persuade our most successful, entrepreneurial, family-oriented citizens to support us, we won’t be in business much longer.
LOL, you Romney devotees want to keep his liberal political agenda alive, even after he is no longer running.
I’m glad that this isn’t a republican site.
OK,we lost the election. Conservative Republicans and Independents should not alter their ideals to please the opposition. In two years the unemployment rates will be much higher and the the economy will be in worse shape ala
Greece and Turkey. Hopefully the elecorate pendulum will swing back to the right.
According to a recent Pew poll a majority of Hispanics support gay marriage. By this election’s exit polling, they support abortion at a greater level than voters generally. And a majority of Hispanic children are born to unwed mothers.
Just how are they ‘socially conservative’?
Its not an Obama site either, and yet you keep supporting him.
For example ... In my experience I have come across very few Asian immigrants who are "independent-minded" in the way we would use this term to describe Americans. Their best and brightest usually find themselves into large bureaucratic organizations where success is manifested behind the scenes. Think of a top doctor in a major medical center, or a top scientist at a major U.S. university research center.
Secondly (and related to the previous point), I think most Asians are fully comfortable with the idea of a powerful, paternalistic government. In fact, they have expectations for it. Just take a look at some photos of those well-manicured, uniformed transit workers who cram passengers into subway trains in Tokyo during rush hour every day. That kind of denigrating passivity is completely alien even to fourth-generation welfare queens in the U.S.
Lastly, I've been completely shocked by just how ignorant Asians are about how the U.S. works ... not just the political issues of the day, but how the political system works. A perfect illustration of this was a conversation I had with a successful middle-aged guy whose parents were immigrants from Asia. It was during an election campaign (2000, I think) and he was disappointed because he couldn't vote for "his candidate." I pried a bit, and learned that "his candidate" was George W. Bush. I assumed he meant that he wasn't registered to vote, but when I asked about it, it turns out I was wrong.
"Oh, I'm registered to vote," he said, "but I can't vote for him because I'm registered as a Democrat."
I couldn't believe how simplistic and downright ignorant this guy was. And he was a successful business owner, too.
I finally explained the whole thing to him and told him he could vote for any candidate on the ballot, but I did have one request for him: "Please call all your friends and family members and tell them to stay home on Election Day, dude."
Asians are highly educated and hardworking but they are also playing to win and the government is winning them with either direct employment or contracted work with government. A clear example: Healthcare reform is designed to get more armies of consultants and government contracting people to form and lead “Accountable Care Organizations.” Democrats all.
Even though they are highly educated and paid, a lot of Asians don’t make it into management (upper or otherwise) because of their English/social skills. So, they end up working for white people who they may consider to be inferior in terms of technical skill. I think this grates on many of them, even (as is noted) they do much better than the average white.
I think you are on to something there (my wife is Chinese).
Even they get the Affirmative Action jobs, good jobs in Govt and engineering.
You are the one who said you were never a republican.
With my connections to the university and family who are Japanese, I want to offer this. At the university, there are several East Indian’s and they vote democrat and with Asian’s (oriental) at least within my family, they don’t involve themselves in the political process too much which is a shame. If the GOP is going to win the W.H. we need to win states like CA, OR and WA but also states in the Northeast. With CA, we may not have much chance with the Hispanics but the Asian’s can be our ticket. Personally, I have a lot of respect for the Asian’s for their smarts, drive and their hard/smart work.
One way to appeal to them would be
- GOP support for families and their success
- support their success in business and how we can help them succeed since the democrats like to punish business
- show how the democrats don’t favor them or their family’s well being in terms on how they want to penalize business
- with the East Indian’s, don’t know much about their culture but we need to do in some way to appeal to them and get them to vote GOP.
Bottom line, we need to find ways to start winning the NE and West Coast states. One way is take it from Tip O’Neil - all politics are local and how the democrats were able to at one time win the South even though they were very liberal. Get GOP folks into local offices in the various towns, counties plus it offers name recognition as well.
Wait until China craters, they have started sending their money out of country now. Their kids are coming over here for school; many are staying. The 73% that voted for Obama are the ones here earlier like Hawaii.
What about whites? Oh, that’s right. They just don’t matter anymore.
Import more Filipinos. They are the best and hardest working people I’ve ever known. They are reliably republican voters all in all.
As for other Asians, I agree with you that where they live is a big factor. Here in Hawaii the Japanese/Chinese run the democrat government. I go into DOE - Dept of Education - offices and it is 80% Japanese/Chinese. Likewise just about everywhere else.
Racial politics, esp in Hawaii is fascinating. The Japanese and Chinese hold the other races down including us haoles. Filipinos and Hawaiians are at the bottom rung of the ladder.
The difference is that Filipinos work hard to strive and see the republican party as their only way up. Hawaiians mostly depend on Santa Claus.
P.S. Michelle Malkin is Filipino.
Has anyone heard of any strong conservative voice that is either Japanese or Chinese ?
Thus proves my point from the previous post.
That, also, is puzzling to me.
That is correct, I am a lifelong Independent that has worked on many republican campaigns, even as many as three at a time, and mixing paid and unpaid work, all to advance conservatism.
I don’t belong to any Republican internet sites, do you?
South Koreans.
Where I live recently arrived (within the past 20 years) 'asians', or whatever specific ethnicity makes up asians, usually have at least one family member on public assistance, usually granny or grandaddy. The cost of the old folks far exceeds the cost in addn'l taxes Jr and his wife would pay to support them.
It should be no mystery anymore - people vote for whomever puts the most $$$ in their pocket.
What a novel idea!
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