Skip to comments.The shape of things to come (John Derbyshire on the future of the GOP)
Posted on 11/09/2012 10:02:38 AM PST by Zhang Fei
What about the future, then? Does the Republican Party have a future?
As I have been saying, there is no unity among white Americans. The old splits of education, class, sex, religion, city-country, and of course North-South still divide whites, and that is the basis of most of our politics. The Republican Party is white, sure enough, but whites aren't Republican.
This will presumably be less and less the case as whites head for minority status. At some point the fact of impending minority status will sink in, and whites will begin to sink their differences and circle the wagons. At some point the Lee Kuan Yew principle will take over. I've quoted it before, and I'll quote it again, because it's very quotable in this context. Quote from Lee Kuan Yew, who was Prime Minister of Singapore for thirty years, and the power behind the curtain for a further twenty in that very successful city-state, quote:
In multiracial societies, you don't vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion.
What then will be the fate of the Republican Party? The Republicans themselves seem unable to discuss this at any level above the moronic. The usual thing you hear is that the GOP has to "reach out" to minorities, especially Hispanics, by handing out a few million sets of citizenship papers to illegals and by putting Marco Rubio on the 2016 ticket.
This is, as I said, moronic. Not "Mormonic" been there, done that moronic.
In the first place, Rubio's a white guy of Cuban ancestry, an outlier among Hispanics, from a group that Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and Guatemalans don't much care for. In the second place, non-white, non-Asian minorities in the U.S.A. underperform in education and employment, and have for generations. You don't need to have a metaphysical theory about why this is so, it's just so, has been for decades in defiance of every kind of remedial action, and there's no evidence anyone can do anything about it. For example, we now have a good database on Hispanics covering the fourth and fifth generations: the statistics are terrible. High-school dropout rates, test scores, unmarried pregnancies, crime, every kind of social dysfunction Hispanics in the generality are an underperforming group that depends on money transfers from whites and Asians via government. Why would this group ever, in any numbers, vote for a small-government white party? And you can of course write that out all over again in boldface large type and italics for blacks. In the third place, given the previous point, where on earth is the sense in expanding this never-going-to-vote-Republican demographic by awarding citizenship to a further three or four million of them? What's the logic here? "We got into this pickle because of uncontrolled immigration. How do we get out of it? Uhhh I know! let's try more uncontrolled immigration!" As Basil Fawlty would say: "Brilliant!" Or as a different Englishman, Daily Telegraph columnist Ed West, headlined his column this week, quote: Pundits tell the Republican party: "The only way you can win is by importing more Democrat voters", end quote. Did someone say "Stupid Party"? This is beyond stupid! In the fourth place, Republicans have poisoned their credibility in this zone by being complicit in the phenomenon they are now pretending to be vexed by, as I described before. The hunger for cheap labor on the part of Republican donor groups has been a big driver of our country's demographic transformation. Why should we listen to anything Republicans have to say about this? For fifty years they've been part of the problem; why should we now believe they're willing to be part of the solution? And in the fifth place, this talk about reaching out to minorities and diversifying the ticket just insults white people, the very group Republicans should be trying to rally. OK, say in 2050 our numbers fall below half the population. That's still a mighty lot of people. Are you telling me that for the next 38 years this huge bloc, the founding stock of modern America, should not be allowed to see themselves represented on a Presidential ticket? Where's the equity in that?
"But," (I hear you say), "if the GOP is to be the white folks' party, and if white folks are destined to be a minority even within the possible lifetime of a reactionary old fogey like Derbyshire, then the GOP will be a minority party, for ever excluded from power, won't it?"
That depends how things shake out over the next forty years. Yes: In a nation made up entirely of ethnic minorities, any ethnically-based party will of course be a minority party. To get power under the present constitutional order, supposing that continues to exist, two or more minorities will have to unite under one party.
But (A) I refer you to Lee Kuan Yew's observation quoted earlier, that in a multiethnic state, politics inevitably comes down to an ethnic shoving match; and (B) this logic will apply to the Democratic Party, too, only in the opposite direction.
Let me elaborate on (B) there. The only thing binding the Democratic Party together right now is hatred of traditional white America. As traditional white America fades in power and importance, the Democrats, deprived of that binding force, may come unglued. By mid-century our politics may consist of three, four, or more minority parties in floating alliances with each other. It's plausible, for example though I'll allow I may be influenced by personal bias here it's plausible that whites and East Asians could go into coalition with each other. Or that successful white Hispanics like Rubio might be at odds with underperforming black and Amerindian Hispanics. Or that blacks and Hispanics may turn enemies, as they already are in jails and schoolyards all over the nation.
So I take the chatter about the death of the Republican Party with a grain of salt. However, I take the other chatter the chatter about the Republican Party ceasing to be a white party I take that with a whole truckload of salt. No, make that a one-hundred-wagon locomotive full of salt. Mm, come to think of it, let's make it a container ship
When you look at the overall picture, however, we are still fighting the Civil War. That is to say, the contest was mainly between two huge groups of white people who don't much like each other, with the colored folk playing a marginal role. That's how it was in the War Between the States, and that's how it still is today.
In the state of Mississippi, for example, 89 percent of whites voted for Romney; in the state of Alabama, it was 84 percent. In the state of Maine, on the other hand, only 40 percent of whites voted for Romney; in Vermont, only 33 percent.
Barack Obama wasn't re-elected by blacks, Hispanics, or Asians, though they helped at the margins; he was re-elected by Yankees.
What do ya know, another article intended to divide.
Naturally all of us filthy yankees all ran out to vote for Obama. /s
I made a point like that in a recent post. I admit race can be a factor but it is not the only one. You have plenty of stupid moochers who are White too. I always admired the South, they are the closest to a warrior culture that we have. There is plenty of blame to go around.
Not as far as I am concerned. For the past two election cycles, they have shoved a moderate in our face and, for the last two election cycles, we have gone down in flames!
It's time that we switch to the Tea Party and start getting conservative candidates to represent us. The GOP-E has breathed its last. They are too willing to bend to the will of the leftists and DO NOT represent the majority of conservative Americans.
Don't contribute to them and don't support them in any way, shape or form.
I know you and I as almost all of us here did not, but we have plenty of Yankees that did. Race, Yankee-ism and so on are factors, but the biggest one is people voting for Santa Claus.
Derbyshire's not talking about moochers. He's talking about a cultural divide. Deliverance wasn't just a movie - it was the encapsulation of every horrific fantasy citified Yankees have had about the South.
You mean I can claim minority benefits, file affirmative action lawsuits, and EOA lawsuits now? Sweet!
Only the reality that most of the offices that dispense the benefits are minorities that have no sympathy for the white race and do their best to deny them benefits. I’ve seen this with my own eyes numerous times. They’ll take our white money for some reason though...
The article is long-ish, but worth the read. It's not about dastardly Yankees sinking the GOP.
I just think we need to stop the divisive crap and get back to work or the democrats will bowl us over like we weren’t even here.
Right now we need to join together and apply the whip to the speaker of the house.
Sex will take care of the racial divides. What we have to do is to somehow convince people that our current path is actually making their life worse. Not an easy chore, but we have to do it. Otherwise it all crashes anyway.
Derbyshire's point is that as whites shrink as a % of the total population, the GOP will become the white party much as the Democratic party is the black party - there may come a day when the GOP gets 90% of the white vote.
A. West, Akin, Mourdock, the guy who ran against Grayson—they were all Tea Party backed and they went up in smoke. Michelle Bachmann barely survived. Immigration and ever-looser cultural values have led to a point where there are more hardcore Dems than hardcore Repubs. We can still win, but it’s getting harder and harder with less room for errors/misfortune on the part of our candidates.
You are either being sarcastic or delusional. Speaker Boehner needs to be whipped when they elect the next speaker. He is a wimp and we need a ruthless speaker with guts and principles.
I do agree that the GOP-E is at its weakest. It now has very little credibility now after 2 presidential elections where the GOP-E told the conservatives to shut up, sit dwn and follow the establishment.
It’s time for the conservatives to take over the party. Throw out Karl Rove, Steve Schmit and replace Mitch McConnell and John Boenher as Congressional leaders. Because if we don’t act now, the establishment will push someone like Jeb Bush, Mike Huckebee or Chris Christie as the 2016 nominee......and we all know what will happen.
I’m sick and tired of being shouted down by the Establishment and then blamed for failure when we did it their way.
The GOP died when the Establishment “Bill Crystal, Karl Rove, and company” forced out any real conservatives during the primary. electing instead to support another RINO Romney who campaigned on: “Repeal Obamaycare and replace it!” Does not encourage conservatives to crawl through glass to vote for him.
Time for a true conservative third party that stands for bona fide free market enterprise, constitutional government, balanced budget, and secure our borders! Watch how fast their candidate gets elected after the disaster of Obamay administration!
Either way, as long as you aren’t giving up. Personally I think Jim DeMint would be a fine speaker.
He ain’t perfect but I think he could get the machinery moving.
Akin was not the tea party candidate.
Missouri, a bastion of the tea-party movement, has been shifting right in recent elections. The Tea Party Express and 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin endorsed former state Treasurer Sarah Steelman in the GOP primary. Self-financing businessman John Brunner had the backing of FreedomWorks, a national tea party umbrella group.
The tea party has been a stunning success, leading us to historical gains in 2010 for example, the gope has been fighting them tooth and nail, and as their disaster called Mitt Romney shows, the establishment doesn’t understand politics.
A little Cultural Competency (I hate that term) would not hurt either.
Nor would simply having an outreach effort that absorbed all the immigrant small business owners in the country.
Just sayin ... their interests and ours are aligned. It also helps that in other cultures, the Jefe is looked up to.
Also, dump the idiots before they get on National TV please.
Thanks for clarifying this earlier.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.