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We have lost
Via Email from a friend | 11/9/2012 | Roger

Posted on 11/09/2012 8:20:56 AM PST by DH

We have lost.....

The most productive people, the small business owners, the entrepreneurs and the honest wage earners of America are so demoralized right now I am not sure we will recover as a country. We have lost the most important election of our lifetime and did so after giving our best effort, spent the most money ever and working the hardest we have ever worked. The very people that America needs the most to generate a real recovery now have the least motivation to do so and worse, lack the confidence necessary to even justify the effort.

We opposed a foe that was so obviously incompetent, corrupt and inept in leadership we really expected a landslide victory and a redeeming mandate to return the nation to conservative values. Instead what we got was a harsh slap in the face by an America public telling us it is not like us and it does not any longer believe in what we believe in. As a country we are hopelessly divided by a malignant polarization approaching that similar to the time around the civil war. Our side will not march in the streets, never the less the rebellion, protests and resistance will be just as determined but more subtle. The American can do spirit, our optimism, our traditional dependence on our own ingenuity is now mere kindling on the advancing flame of an insidious yet steadily advancing socialism.

Those of us who create real jobs, invest our capital, our fortunes and take the risks to build America, feel betrayed. The fundamentals of honest effort and hard work rendering the rewards associated with capitalism seem now like a cruel joke. We are now a targeted enemy not to be governed but coerced into submission by a lazy, corrupt, vindictive, arrogant government that is out for revenge, redistribution and to add a final insult, one we find too morally bankrupt to lead. The usual safe guards for a democracy found in a vibrant independent press have lost any semblance of objectivity and instead have joined a side. What used to be principled Independent reporters have morphed into dishonest pundits spewing a disgusting relentless partisan bile that neither informs nor educates. They are shallowly manipulated by the political marketers to the point their words lack meaning. The "fourth branch" of government has become nothing more than an empty cathode ray irradiating a mind numbed audience like a repetitive Beaves n' Butthead rerun.

We have elected a President who not only feels we did not work for what we have but feels we do not deserve either. Had it gone the other way, Obama supporters would have torched America. Instead they will now legitimately consume it by gnawing at the soft underbelly of what was once her prosperity. Our Judeo-Christian culture now having as much meaning as a 3 minute Youtube video. It is however as the Bible had forewarned, ours is a world turning over where good is bad, and bad is good. God help us all. He is our last refuge.

Roger


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; obama; opinion; society; vanity
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21 posted on 11/09/2012 8:44:45 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (The left has been at war with us...we have not been at war with them.)
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To: DH

Wow!
Mirrors my thoughts to a “T”.
The democratic entitlement society has spoken.
Any thoughts of a GOP 2014/2016 return to power is an exercise in futility.
Thanks for the post.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 8:47:07 AM PST by mcmuffin ("236 Years- Only In America")
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To: DH
Yup!...Things sure have changed in America when someone who doesn't respect it gets re-elected...
23 posted on 11/09/2012 8:53:13 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: DH

Chin up...use this time to prepare your home and family.
Zero is going to ride this behemoth over the cliff and take his ugly, childish, dependent, useful idiots with him.
We will survive and we will fix it.
We are the Americans...not them.
America is an idea and they can’t touch that. They can trash it on the outside, but they can’t touch the best part—we have it.
Boortz was talking to Herman Cain this morning, Herman related a thought from a columnist that said “suffering is the best teacher”.
Be prepared, be willing to accept the discomfort and then watch the mob control squads neutralize the little commie crappers.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 8:54:01 AM PST by two23
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To: DH

We all better stop complaining and get back to work. Trevonda and Treyqwon need new Nikes.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 8:56:26 AM PST by The Toll
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To: mcmuffin
Any thoughts of a GOP 2014/2016 return to power is an exercise in futility.

Not really. Oboma can't keep blaming Bush for all his own failures anymore, and things are not looking good for the next 4 years (and going Galt would make sure of it). The cards are all his now. Brace yourself for all fiscal hell to break loose.
Now that the democrats have run out of everyone elses money, how are they going to pay off their base? I doubt other nations are going to keep loaning us money so the the democrat base can just keep eating. They've got their own people to feed.

The democrats need money. They need a LOT of money, and people are pulling back. Working people have decided they're not going to support the scrounges and self serving politicians any more. When the slaves rebel - the masters starve.

26 posted on 11/09/2012 8:57:28 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: DH

This handwringing is nonsense. Presidential elections are always won on superficial reasons, not on the issues. The exit polls showed most people disagreed with Obama on most issues, especially economic ones. He won on foreign policy, probably because the killing of Bin Laden is a huge story everyone knows. But Obama just had more charisma than Romney and connected emotionally to people better than Romney.

If you want to lament at how voters are ignorant and democracy doesn’t really work, that’s fine. It’s the least worst system of government we have, not a perfect system. But the idea that conservative values have been newly rejected is nonsense. That being said, some conservative values were rejected long ago and remain so. People don’t believe in a flat tax and do want to tax wealthier people more.

Obama succeeded MUCH, MUCH bigger in 2008 and we still got 2010. This was a very narrow victory. 2014 is therefore looking REALLY good right now. Especially since the minority voters who know nothing about politics but worship Obama because he’s a minority leader don’t show up when he’s not on the ballot.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 9:04:21 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: DH

What a choice. Being torched by the takers or being consumed (I.e freebies) by them.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:24 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: DH

I would tell friend Roger ... just like on Sept. 11, 2001, we still had cows to milk on the farm.

We have to keep going.

I’m planning to pray for revival, because that’s what will really turn this country around. What we are seeing are symptoms of a far more serious problem, turning away from God.

So, OK, bunkie, let’s just keep on keepin’ on. Remember evil overreaches. Let’s pray and keep working.

Off my soap box now.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:04 AM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: SC_Pete

Only one problem with the proposal in the article: the amendment does not place a maximum limit on the excise tax or sales tax created. It would not do us any good if this were done and the Congress established the tax at 20 or 30 percent would it?

Otherwise it looks pretty good.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:54 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: JediJones

that, and incumbents usually win.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:58 AM PST by two23
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To: dirtymac

“It was given away in some states by those good strong conservatives and Christian evangelicals who could not be sullied with voting for someone who was not their perfect candidate. So they gave us Obama again.”

Absolutely not fair, evangelicals of every “group” voted higher for Romney than anyone, 79%.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 9:09:04 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: DH
Americas will never see the willingness to open small businesses. Trust is gone. And we have to realize that Americans let us down.

Reverend Wright had it wrong. He should have said G damn Democrats.

33 posted on 11/09/2012 9:11:50 AM PST by Logical me
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To: concerned about politics
The problem is the Republican in the beltway always think a "moderate" is the way to win an elections, and they're always wrong.

It's more than that. The beltway Republicans ARE moderates/liberals themselves, and are willing to risk losing elections to advance their causes. When they say we need to be moderate/liberal to win, they're lying and just trying to push their own moderate/liberal agenda for personal reasons, not to win. The Republican elites are as much of an enemy to our cause as the Democrats.

Agreed on the "tax slaves" issue. It's amazing how many people do not notice or care how much tax they pay, especially income tax. They are numb to it. We need a taxpayer revolt in this country. It shouldn't be that hard to engineer with the right messaging.

34 posted on 11/09/2012 9:12:01 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: two23
that, and incumbents usually win.

True. It's remarkable how LITTLE things have changed. Just like Reagan and Bush II, Obama lost the first debate as an incumbent, was on the ropes and then rebounded. Likewise Mondale and Kerry lost on the charisma factor (as Gore, Dukakis, Dole, Bush Sr. against Clinton, etc. did). Romney had a little bit more likability, so the election was pretty close.

35 posted on 11/09/2012 9:16:42 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: dirtymac

It always amazes me, the nerve of some of the posters on this forum to cast aspersions upon people they don’t know the first thing about...

I didn’t vote for Romney, and I’m a Christian Evangelical. I did NOT however, refuse to vote for him “because he was not perfect” or any of the other petty and childish reasons that you people with no apparent moral foundation want to project onto others. All that, beside living in a solidly red state, where voting my conscience could have no impact on the electoral vote.

I did not vote for Romney because he NEVER presented himself as a Conservative leader who would adhere to Constitutional principles. He could have committed to the idea of a government of limited scope and power, or committed to supporting traditional marriage, or committed to the sanctity of life for the unborn; or we could have chosen a candidate who would.

Instead, OUR SIDE ran the etch-a-sketch candidate. And your solution would be to change the minds of millions of conservative voters, millions of social conservatives, millions of Christians through coersion, rather than run a nominee that can EARN their vote?

That’s what it is, too: Coersion. Vote for what you’re given, because you’re not allowed any other options.

We’re talking about ONE MAN failing to stand up for what millions would die to defend, and you blame that failure on those millions, yet spare the man any criticism.

If the Republican party (or any party) ever wants my money, my support, or my vote again, they’ll have to run a candidate that represents my interests. Mitt Romney was not that guy, and I’m not the one who stopped him from being that guy.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 9:20:03 AM PST by Hugh the Scot (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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The GOP elites are now repeating ALL the same reasons that they used to justify nominating Romney in the first place! That we need to be more moderate, inclusive, not run on social issues, etc. It’s ridiculous. The primary voters just got done following their advice right off a cliff. How stupid do they think we are?


37 posted on 11/09/2012 9:20:03 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: DH

No, we haven’t lost, a civil war is coming, then we will see who looses, there is no more money left, they are only delaying the inevitable: war, first there was flood, now comes the fire! Our politicians no longer fear God nor their constituents, He is angry, first He came with a dove, now, He will carry an Ax!


38 posted on 11/09/2012 9:22:37 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: JediJones
The GOP elites are now repeating ALL the same reasons that they used to justify nominating Romney in the first place! That we need to be more moderate, inclusive, not run on social issues, etc. It’s ridiculous.

That's why people don't vote. They either get a democrat, or they get a democrat in sheep's clothing. There's no one there to represent them.

39 posted on 11/09/2012 9:33:18 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: DH
Let the thieving useless mongrel bastards eat each other . . .


             

40 posted on 11/09/2012 9:38:13 AM PST by tomkat
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