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Consensus Forming for Lame Duck Deal To Delay Sequester Cuts
All content 2012, Gannett Government Media Corporation | Nov. 8, 2012 - 01:39PM | By JOHN T. BENNETT

Posted on 11/08/2012 4:36:37 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: boehner; fiscalcliff; rino; sequestration
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1 posted on 11/08/2012 4:36:45 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Wonder what the “deal” is? Boehner give away the house?


2 posted on 11/08/2012 4:46:01 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: COBOL2Java

we are sooooo screwed


3 posted on 11/08/2012 4:52:54 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Why? Obama promised to let those evil Bush tax cuts for the rich to expire. He said he wanted real spending cuts. He said that he didn't create the sequester and promised it wouldn't happen. He said that 10:1 spending cuts for tax increases was a grand bargain.

Let's hold Obama to his renewed promises!

let the tax cuts occur and the spending cuts to take hold. Then do a deal for Obama's signature Buffett Tax and all the glory he afforded it in exchange for sustaining our military (like Obama also promised).

Then some of the 47% that love free things from Obama so much will have some skin in the game ;)
4 posted on 11/08/2012 4:53:07 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Let it all go to crap.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 4:53:37 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Let it go off the cliff. Everyone gets what they want - spending cuts, tax increase and an end to war. Nirvana!

Seriously, I’ll take the tax increase to have the pleasure of watching the govt dependent ox gore flowing in the streets. I drive my car another 100,000 and watch the multitude of grasshoppers freeze.

What’s that German word again? Schaden-something...


6 posted on 11/08/2012 4:55:21 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Steven W.; SargeK

Presactly. At least with sequestration we get some social spending cuts with our tax hikes and defense cuts. I am sure that, otherwise, any “cuts” will be quietly put back in later. Furthermore, under sequestration, at least the tax hikes will be across the board and right into Obama’s precious forty seven percent.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 4:58:23 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: tobyhill

I suggest that Atlas Shrug, go pick up his Obamaphone and head to Colorado to smoke a bowl...


8 posted on 11/08/2012 5:22:46 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The political mirage of something for nothing; has ruined many a nation.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Of course he will. Surrender is the only negotiation tactic he knows.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 5:23:08 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Typical_Whitey

Maybe Colorado is on to something. Before committing economic suicide, smoke a bowl legally.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 5:26:33 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: SargeK

I don’t care what they all do anymore. I have lost all my fight. Raise taxes til it hurts and it still won’t be enough. They will always be back for more. I want the whole country to feel major pain. That is the only thing that may bring the voters to their senses.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 5:30:13 PM PST by sheana
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To: SargeK

I don’t care what they all do anymore. I have lost all my fight. Raise taxes til it hurts and it still won’t be enough. They will always be back for more. I want the whole country to feel major pain. That is the only thing that may bring the voters to their senses.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 5:31:08 PM PST by sheana
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To: sheana

The lib’s and nonvoters deserve what they get. Fail.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 5:39:02 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: tobyhill

Its already crap.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 5:44:50 PM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: sheana

Ok I voted Romney . Saying first.
Part of me thinking of those suffering now who voted Obama in ‘08.
4 years is not long enough punishment . 8 would be better to help them understand consequences more .
Imagine graduating and not getting a decent job until your 30. Living with your parents till your 35.
It gives me some ease that the punishment fits the crime.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 5:47:45 PM PST by Morris70
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To: COBOL2Java

House GOP= rubber stamp


16 posted on 11/08/2012 6:20:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’d be interested to see what sort of deal they could come up with that they think would delay the day of reckoning. It’s coming, and probably would be no matter what happened Tuesday.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 6:28:45 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: Typical_Whitey
I suggest that Atlas Shrug, go pick up his Obamaphone and head to Colorado to smoke a bowl...

And then on to Washington state and have that homosexual marriage done.

18 posted on 11/08/2012 6:40:36 PM PST by RetiredArmy (November 6, 2012: The day the United States Republic DIED.)
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To: tobyhill

Let it all go to crap.

I agree, let them hang. I’m prepping for the worst. Let it come.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 6:47:29 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The DC Hacks used this sequester deal to up the Debt Ceiling after the 2010 elections.
Remember the GOP Kabuki Dance?
Get ready, they are about to hoodwink us again.
And I don’t mean the democrats. I mean Bonehead and Cantor and the
GOP. Greece is coming to America, sooner than later.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 9:02:37 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Steven W.

Exactly.

Speaker Boo Hoo should do absolutely nothing.

Over on Twitter there is a trending hashtag... #LetTheTaxCutsExpire

The dingbat libs who started appear to be unaware that Bush cut taxes for everyone.

They really do think he only cut them for billionaires and zillionairs. LOL!

They can’t be told....they need to live it.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 9:11:32 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: lookout88

I’m stocking up as well. It’s the only thing I can control.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 9:18:35 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A part of me would like to see Boehner hold a press conference announcing that the House will support the Presidents agenda but make it clear that the republicans disagree with his policies, but will let the American people witness first hand what Socialism will do to our economy in short order. I would like to see him finish by pointing to a phone number for all Americans write down and call when they have had enough of the Socialist utopia and return to what our founders so eloquently spelled out fo0r this great Nation


24 posted on 11/08/2012 9:42:24 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: sheana
I intend to work less next year....this year, I've been trying to pick up extra work...

why work when you are getting punished for it....

whatever happened to being rewarded for working hard?

25 posted on 11/08/2012 11:41:51 PM PST by cherry
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To: Morris70
hey my son is 35 and back in grad school,working a crappy job for Amazon call center...trying to raise two little ones....of course, bammey voters....

I want to a look into his eyes and ask "how could you do this to your kids?"

26 posted on 11/08/2012 11:43:42 PM PST by cherry
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To: tennmountainman
of course you know the pubs will be crucified and blamed for any stock market crash or for rioting etc....

I guess they need to save face....but I'd rather see the cuts happen right across the board...

27 posted on 11/08/2012 11:45:23 PM PST by cherry
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To: sheana; All

That is how I feel right now. Crash the entire system and maybe someday it can be fixed.

Ask a liberal to fill in the blank to this:

When the rich get poorer, the poor get ________ .


28 posted on 11/09/2012 12:42:53 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

‘Sequestration & Obama’, repeat endlessly. OWN IT.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 2:39:40 AM PST by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: SargeK
Schadenfreude - pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.
30 posted on 11/09/2012 4:24:24 AM PST by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Morris70

America may have to lose a decade to gain a century.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:42 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: cherry

When you were a toddler you did stupid things that caused painful physical injuries like most people did. That’s how we learn .
Sometimes bad things happen are good for us to understand their bad.

Lack I’d a decent income and doing remedial jobs beneath your level of intelligence give you time to think about what’s really important .
Sometimes people don’t learn lessons. That happens to.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 4:40:20 AM PST by Morris70
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What will happen it that we will get defense cuts, but the social spending cuts will never materialize.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 4:48:33 AM PST by dforest
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To: NCjim

I don’t think I would feel any schadenfreude from letting it all burn, but I also think that it is impossible to make people understand the looming disaster unless they feel the pain.

Dems use Republicans to kick the can down the road over and over, therefore just keeping us above the collapse enough to keep it going.

People are indoctrinated. They won’t see the folly until they have to live with it’s consequences.

Called “learnin’ the hard way”.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 4:57:54 AM PST by dforest
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To: Red in Blue PA
Ask a liberal to fill in the blank to this:

When the rich get poorer, the poor get ________ .

........FREE Obamaphones?

35 posted on 11/09/2012 5:23:05 AM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: cherry
hey my son is 35 and back in grad school,working a crappy job for Amazon call center...trying to raise two little ones....of course, bammey voters....

I want to a look into his eyes and ask "how could you do this to your kids?"


I'm in my late 30s and I have an 8 year old son. I want to violently slap your son in the face for doing this to MY kid. I'm homeschooling and doing everything I can to save my family from the DEATH that has been brought upon us from the people like your son.
36 posted on 11/09/2012 5:32:43 AM PST by Darth Gill
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To: massmike

The House needs to pass a bill making all the tax cuts permanent. If Reid and Obama kill it, then make them wear it when taxes are increased on everyone.


37 posted on 11/09/2012 5:38:19 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Whatever happens....Obama owns it. I expect it to be far worse than anything people imagine in their worst late night thoughts.

Just buy all the ammo and food you can get.

38 posted on 11/09/2012 5:54:25 AM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Any deal should include permanently and immediately rescinding all Obamacare waivers. Everybody pays.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 5:58:35 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: cherry
I want to a look into his eyes and ask "how could you do this to your kids?" Why don't you? I think we conservative have been cowed for so long that we are just silent to get along.

We have 3 grown children. One Big Lefty, One Conservative and One who has finally seen the light in the past four years - only as a result of the efforts of her wonderful, conservative husband. After our day of mourning on Wed, last night Hubby and I were discussing our options and plans for moving forward. The kids know our position, and so do our grandchildren. We had specifically talked about the election and what it meant for their futures - in fact one 5-yr old grandchild asked the Lefty why Barack Obama wanted to take more of their money?

We are going to do our homework re where we spend our dollars. No purchases of anything made in China - no matter how "inexpensive". I'm going to scour the Internet re any public statements or Corporate policies that I find objectionable - no money to them either. That goes for our favorite restaurants too. If the owners are Lefties, our disposable income (what will be left of it) can go elsewhere. No movies - family time is better spent in conversation and reading, we might even bring out the Monopoly Board. Making our charitable dollars go to those in our community in need - through our church. Working on trying to be a good Christian by volunteering more time in our community - If we can each show one person what the love is Christ is all about, that is a good thing.

Two additional, specific things.

1) We were looking for a small condo in the city where our three children's families live. I sent the realtor a note last night. "Based on the results of the presidential election, we are not going to pursue a condo purchase. We strongly believe that the policies of the current administration are diametrically opposed to meaningful job creation and thus, any significant economic recovery is now unlikely. Being retired, that means being squeezed by prospects for less investment income, higher taxes and rising prices for EVERYTHING. A condo is no longer part of the plan."

2) The wills are being changed. What little will be left of the Lefty's share will skip him and go into a trust for his beautiful children. Perhaps we gave him too good of a life growing up. He never knew hardship. It is so easy to go gaga over Lefty drivel when you aren't worried about your future.

FReepers, please let me know if you have any suggestions for what else we can do. BTW, perhaps we can have a specific forum here on FR where we can specifically share ideas. Any "research" can be posted. Lastly, perhaps there is some way that can "unite" to push for Voter ID laws and get involved to make sure that voter lists can be cross-referenced for multiple registrations and what about the integrity of vote COUNTING?!?!?!

just my thoughts...

40 posted on 11/09/2012 6:21:32 AM PST by illinifan (The Left doesn't want you to be upwardly mobile. They want you to be angry and disaffected)
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To: dforest
What will happen it that we will get defense cuts, but the social spending cuts will never materialize.

Fine with me if we cut defense. What good's a military when the CiC plans to sell us out to Putin and Beijing anyway? If anything, he'd use the military on us.

41 posted on 11/09/2012 6:42:03 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: illinifan
The wills are being changed. What little will be left of the Lefty's share will skip him and go into a trust for his beautiful children. Perhaps we gave him too good of a life growing up. He never knew hardship. It is so easy to go gaga over Lefty drivel when you aren't worried about your future.

I'd skip his kids too. They're going to be little lefties if your son raises them as such.

42 posted on 11/09/2012 6:46:28 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

LOL, you have a point there.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 6:50:46 AM PST by dforest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Ha, good one. We are pretty relentless with the conservative doctrine. We try to teach them history and economics and instill good Christian values.

He wants us to help out watching the little ones, he gets what he doesn’t pay for :-)


44 posted on 11/09/2012 7:00:08 AM PST by illinifan (The Left doesn't want you to be upwardly mobile. They want you to be angry and disaffected)
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To: sheana
I don’t care what they all do anymore. I have lost all my fight. Raise taxes til it hurts and it still won’t be enough. They will always be back for more. I want the whole country to feel major pain. That is the only thing that may bring the voters to their senses.

You may have heard the saying that no good deed goes unpunished. Through successive rounds of tax reductions, the GOP has lowered the tax bite to the point that wealthy liberals (or libertarians) have forgotten what it was like to pay higher taxes. Ultimately, we may have to raise taxes in order to give ourselves the opportunity to reduce them at a later date thereby splitting the liberal coalition between the hard-working libertines who are weary of paying extortionate taxes and the wastrels who sit around and do nothing all day and expect to be paid for it.

45 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:21 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SargeK

Schadenfreude! ( pleasure at another’s misery).

I agree. Let the taxes ROLL! Because the middle class will get a real whammy and then they can’t blame the Republicans.They got what they wanted...deal with it.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 8:02:15 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Morris70

I agree...no one makes a change till they feel pain...soft pedaling the disaster won’t change anything.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 8:03:45 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Scotswife

EXACTLY, let the cuts expire!

They were 5 percentage points across the board. If you were in a 39.5% bracket they went to 34.5% a 12.7% reduction. If you were in a 10% bracket they went to 5%, a 50% reduction. You see, the Bush tax cuts helped the lower income more than the upper income by a factor of at least 4. That’s right, the tax cuts were FOUR times larger for the lower income persons than the upper income persons.

LET THE TAX CUTS EXPIRE. Let them ALL expire! DO NOTHING and they will end.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 8:39:50 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: illinifan
"BTW, perhaps we can have a specific forum here on FR where we can specifically share ideas. Any "research" can be posted."

What would be great is where to find American made essentials (or primarily American)

49 posted on 11/09/2012 11:59:50 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: NVDave

Don’t forget about the crying. Crying is a very effective negotiating tool used by women.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 2:12:35 PM PST by AF_Blue ("America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad ass speed." - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936)
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