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1 posted on 11/08/2012 5:55:52 AM PST by teg_76
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BUMP ... for truth.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 5:58:08 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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All of the above. But #4 was fully in his control.

Mittens just couldn’t hit. Fast and Furious and Benghazi could have redefined the debates and the final weeks of the campaign, with Obama on the defensive.

But Mittens just couldn’t hit. He had to campaign as Mr. Mellow Moderate.

Nice guys finish last in hard-knuckles politics.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 5:58:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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3 and 4 are BULLSHIT.

Chris Christie gave some very good speeches on behalf of Romney, including his much-repeated line about sending Obama back to Chicago. In the middle of a crisis, Christie moved away from politics and towards leadership. Sure, it might have been effusive in his praise for Obama, but the residents of NJ didn’t want some mealy-mouthed politician at that time.

And Romney fought HARD during both a heavily contested primary (go count the number of debates) and a tough general election. While he was fighting other Republicans for the party’s nomination, Obama had over six months to marginalize him in the media. He was fighting a battle on two fronts and that’s never easy.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 5:59:43 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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I’m sorely tempted to say screw the GOP.

Sarah Palin where are you?


5 posted on 11/08/2012 6:00:10 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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Agree with most of this. But would add one caveat. White vote numbers were way down. Not sure why this happened. Approximately the same numbers of blacks voted as in 08. 1.7 million more Latinos. Why did whites stay home?

Hunker down. Focus on the mid terms in 14 This is America, let’s not give up on it. Let’s fight for it.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 6:02:27 AM PST by Tulane
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why does no one mention that racism was a factor in this election and that is black racism, they voted based on color.

Massive voter fraud and no one can tell me how these results make any sense.
VA military votes evenly split, that is unheard of

observers thrown out in OH, FL, PA. in some cases for hours so what were the Dems doing.?

FL was bound for Romney and trust me I ma here and travel this state and half the poeple I talk to are saying that it doesn;t make sense
Broward yet again did their corruption and then waited for results before reporting in
Obama got less than 5000 and yet he won that area Tampa , no way even the Dems had said FL was gone for them.

More people voted for Romney and less for obama that last time but he might get this state

WI voted for Walker twice, the state went republican but the federal seats go Dem and Ryan cannot get near a win.

Mia Love was up double digits two days before the election in UT and yes she lost easily, she woudl have been a mssive threat to the Dems as she was a conservative black woman and young.

OH less votes , 4 years of a bad economy but union votes go up by 5% HUH

observers thrown out.

Exit polls state people wanted the economy to get better but they vote for a guy which has made it worse?!

I could go on and on
No one is mentioning any of this and wants to move on and talk about being more liberal as usual.
Instead people should look into this, stop the name calling and stand up for the process and stand up for America.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 6:06:40 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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I agree on 1, 3, and 4; but only a bit on 2. Obama had fewer votes for him this time then in 2008; that tells me that immigration was not as important to voting immigrants. What is a something to note is that even though Romney received less votes than McCain; we held the House (though we need better candidates for the Senate.). Holding the House tells me we have conservatives willing to vote Conservatives in at a greater number then Libs voting in Dems; but we will not vote for someone who either ignores us or puts us down in our own party.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 6:07:05 AM PST by celmak
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#4 is a joke. Romney was a fighter and had to work on his likability as well. That was always a balancing act.

Your theories are not reflected in the exit polling. Obama effectively scared voters by tying Romney to Bush whom voters still blame for our economic problems. He won Ohio by demonizing and mischaracterizing the op-ed Romney wrote four years ago about the auto bailouts.

Why do so many here ignore the 'historical nature' of the Obama presidency? That was always the wild card insulating Obama, granting him a benefit of the doubt no other modern president would get.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 6:10:52 AM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate voter Freepers for making him president til 2017!)
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Don’t forget the millions of “Republicans” who didn’t show up to vote. How McCain received more votes than Romney can only be attributed to no-show-Rs. Perhaps because of the Mormon thing, perhaps of their dislike of Romney. But nobody in their right mind could have disliked a Romney presidency more than a 2nd 0bama term!


19 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:05 AM PST by EscapedDutch ("Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money" - Lady Margaret Thatcher)
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Unless states pass a ‘Voter ID’ law, the urban districts and wards will stuff the ballot box to claim their state’s electoral vote for the cheating party.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:25 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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Newt Gingrich was the ONLY candidate that was sticking it into the media’s face

AND PEOPLE LOVED IT

I dont CARE about his past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We know all about it.

He is still the former speaker of the house that BALANCED THE FEDERAL BUDGET !!!!!!!! Dealing with Bill Clinton, no less...


22 posted on 11/08/2012 6:14:45 AM PST by Mr. K (We need a TEA PARTY MARCH ON GOP HEADQUARTERS!)
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1. Corrupt / ignorant public
2. Demographics
3. The press

As for Christie, he's just another motormouth for the corrupt/ignorant public to factor into its emotional "decision making."

28 posted on 11/08/2012 6:22:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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We need to change the media, not ourselves.


This is so spot on. 100000% true. If the media were even half way fair, no democrat would ever get elected.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 6:45:15 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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5. Chicago-style thuggery combined with union thuggery.

6. 47% remark.

7. Relentless negative ads before Romney could legally spend campaign funds.

8. “I like to fire people.”

9. Legitimate rape & “God intended” rape remarks that tarred the whole Gop.

10. Hurrican Sandy.

11. Superior GOTV efforts by the Dhims.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 6:47:58 AM PST by Hawthorn
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6) massive voter fraud, including disenfranchising the military vote


44 posted on 11/08/2012 7:03:34 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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We need to change the media, not ourselves. How I don't know.

It's easy: take jobs in the media. Want to fix the demographic problems with future generations ? Take jobs in education.

Jews know for The Tribe to survive they need to cultivate their future and foster good will in the broader culture. Conservatives need to think beyond their own nuclear families.

46 posted on 11/08/2012 7:47:29 AM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate voter Freepers for making him president til 2017!)
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I’ll add another (granted) small one but one that floored me.

The Red Cross PSA (Public Service Advertisement) that featured Presidential Obama for Hurricane Sandy Relief. PSA are run by the broadcast and cable media for FREE as a public service. To have done this must have had the Obama election team rolling in the aisles - free campaign spots. Yes it was pulled later, but really why was it considered proper at all in a campaign?!?!


47 posted on 11/08/2012 8:23:29 AM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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Exactly right. We’re all well aware of #1 and #2, but #3 and #4 were where we just basically forfeited. What in the hell is going on with the weak in the knees pansies and Benedict Arnold’s on our side? Everytime we’ve had the Dem’s on the ropes, somebody on our side stands up to stab us in the back. I don’t know how far you want to go back, but there was the bailout vote, Palin, Obamacare votes, the debt negotiations (the crybaby), the incredible Roberts’ fold on the Obamacare SCOTUS decision, Powell, Christy and then our candidate just completely letting everyone off the hook on Benghazi when he had the chance to nail him to the wall over it in front of 60 million people. With friends like these, who needs enemies?


49 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:39 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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More minoriites, more single adults, don't spell a picture for electoral success. Bush and Rove deserve a lot blame for this, as they should have been protecting our border and our soveirgnty rather than pushing amnesty. So much for Rove's "permanent Republican majority"

Bush & Rove are to blame for more single adults? Seriously? That's on the culture. What have you done in the last twenty years to espouse your values, renew the culture?

Bush & Rove wanted to "solve" the problem through amnesty to win the group for the GOP or least avoid massive erosion. Ironically, in stopping them we may have sealed the fate of the party and our nation. That could've been a pyrrhic victory. It may have been the nation's watershed, mirroring the triumph of "Prop 187" in CA only to spell the end of the state Republican party's relevancy because of demographic shift and Democrat exploitation of those new hispanic voters with no GOP counter-balancing outreach.

It may be over. It probably is.

The gay agenda war was lost in the early 1990s and Tuesday's votes clearly demonstrate the cultural and demographic shifts myself and others have warned about for some time.

Frankly speaking, immigration may have been lost in the Bush years. Here on FR, and elsewhere, Rick Perry was lambasted for his debate warnings on losing Hispanics and the importance of immigration reform. Jeb could be right; 2016 may be too late to fix the perception. Conservatives are supposed to be able facts, science, reality. Denial is not going to preserve or restore the country.

Denial is very strong in these parts when it comes to the need for outreach.

The work begins now or never; what are you doing about it? Are you just assuming immigrant populations will naturally find conservatism and know what they're told in their language media and by Democrat outreach about Republicans isn't accurate ?

Based on some prevailing attitudes on FR, many pompous "conservatives" need to stop their snarky attacks on the working poor. Inhumane and foolish in any time, there's absolutely no excuse for it during this roadkill recovery. If you're fortunate enough not to be struggling shut-up and hire.

50 posted on 11/08/2012 9:03:20 AM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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