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Romney turnout 6.8% HIGHER in "Battleground" States than McCain (Vanity)
November 7, 2012 | Strategerist

Posted on 11/07/2012 7:11:45 PM PST by Strategerist

Comparing 2008 vote totals to 2012 (with some numbers projected, as for example Colorado only has 90% of the votes in) overall in VA, NC, OH, NH, PA, FL, MI, MN, WI, CO, IA, NV (all states were also battleground states in 2008) Romney had 21,674,900 votes to 20,300,366 for McCain in those states, for a 6.8% advantage.

In every individual battleground state Romney turnout was higher than McCain, from 20.4% higher in Nevada to 0.6% higher in PA. Ohio Romney turnout was 7.3% higher than McCain.

In the non-battleground state of NY, Romney had 6.6% LESS turnout than McCain. Interestingly in CA Romney turnout was up 5.1%, and in TX it was up 5.9%.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; turnout; vanity
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To: snarkytart

Bingo. Just look at the county map of PA. Solid red — and I mean SOLID RED red except for Philly.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 4:18:21 AM PST by jersey117
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To: frogjerk
MI, MN, WI were not battleground states.

Not in play maybe, but they had enthusiasm against Obama (and some for Obama).

42 posted on 11/08/2012 4:20:27 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Unless the way we vote has integrity, it will not matter who we put on a ticket. They will never win.

Until people wake up and understand that we can increase our vote totals but the other side can always gyp the numbers to be ahead. Taking over the party won’t mean squat.


43 posted on 11/08/2012 4:24:24 AM PST by dforest
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To: SunkenCiv
Premise of the statement is wrong.

A larger slice of a smaller pie is not usually a winning strategy against someone else with a guaranteed base from a fanatical floor.

The GOPe is trying to use the evangelicals as an adjunct TO a base of the mushy middle, which will never work.

They get smeared by the press for being too conservative, and the real conservatives are tuning them out and not voting.

Real conservatives are on a par with, or greater than, liberals in numbers -- the GOP should build on them, and then add the big tent: not pitch a tent and try to carnival-huckster conservatives in, when they know from experience they will be betrayed (McCain-Feingold, endless promises of "vote for us to get the Supreme Court followed by Roberts on Obamacare, etc).

Cheers!

44 posted on 11/08/2012 4:39:23 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mike Darancette

then you get NY, LA, Miami and Chicago being the defacto capitols of the country with the rest of the nation being ignored.
At least, right now we stand a fighting chance if we organize but we will never be able to defeat the “Santa machine” if it goes to a national popular.
I say we revert back to the original intent and have Congress elect the leadership.


45 posted on 11/08/2012 4:45:25 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Shadow44
No...what I posted was from another analyzer on how the numbers lined up. But they got their numbers from Wapo.
46 posted on 11/08/2012 5:02:52 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Strategerist

My apologies, I used a “spreadsheet” with “equations” and “data” and other things that godless commies like Nate Silver use, and that any true conservative rightly disdains.


Conservatives have no problem with spread sheets and data.
It’s only when the data is wrong. You have no idea where the uncounted votes are coming from but making assumptions. So yes I would put you in the same class as Silver.

Grow up


47 posted on 11/08/2012 6:12:39 AM PST by Joshua
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To: grey_whiskers
Real conservatives are on a par with, or greater than, liberals in numbers -- the GOP should build on them, and then add the big tent:

OK, who was the 'real conservative' running this time? Perry? Gingrich? Cain?

All of them flamed out for their own problems, not because they were 'too conservative.' Santorum? Bachmann?

Sontorum is a social conservative but if you look at his voting record no way is he a true conservative. Bachmann has foot in mouth syndrome. If she had won the nomination we might have seen an Akin/Mourdock moment or two.

How about the upcoming crop?

Rubio? Jindal? Christie?

Maybe Jindal but Rubio is pushing his DREAM ACT, which is poison for me. After Christie's performances with Obama and Springsteen I think the guy is mentally unstable.

So the pickings are pretty slim for true conservatives but I am open if they step up to run.
48 posted on 11/08/2012 2:35:49 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom
Real conservatives are on a par with, or greater than, liberals in numbers -- the GOP should build on them, and then add the big tent:

OK, who was the 'real conservative' running this time? Perry? Gingrich? Cain?

Sorry, we're talking past each other. I meant numbers of constituents, not candidates.

The problem was a lot of constituents were waiting for Palin to declare, and withheld any one conservative from gaining critical mass; and, together with Gloria All-Red torpedoing Cain with a racist stereotypical attack of a sexist Black Man victimizing white women, you had Romney carpet-bombing his opponents with negative ads (just as his surrogates undermined Palin) and changing the primary rules (in Virginia, I think?) to exclude opponents: and ticking off the Paul supporters.

Each bit sapped a little support from his erstwhile base, which shaky enough to begin with, even without Romneycare, flip-flopping, and being Mormon.

Where are all the mushy-middle or Reagan democrats who were supposed to replace the religious right and prove them unnecessary?

Cheers!

49 posted on 11/08/2012 8:11:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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