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President Obama Succeeded In Blaming Bush For Economy
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | November 8, 2012

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:34:32 PM PST by raptor22

Economy: Having successfully blamed his predecessor for four years, the president celebrates at the edge of a fiscal cliff, with Taxma-geddon, ObamaCare and sequestration looming as war clouds gather in the Middle East.

Exit polls released Tuesday showed about half of voters still blame President George W. Bush more than President Barack Obama for the country's economic problems, as most cited the economy as their top issue in the election.

They believed the Big Lie that the mess we are in was inherited and that Obama at least kept things from getting worse. Well, it's about to get much worse.

Starting Jan. 1, Americans face a $494 billion tax increase, the highest ever in one year, as the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire and new ones are added to the taxpayer's burden.

At $502 billion, ObamaCare's tax increase over 10 years barely edges ahead of Taxmageddon. The average American household would see its taxes rise by $3,800 in 2013 alone. And this is just for one year.

The top income-tax rate (which is also the rate at which most small-business profits are taxed) will rise to 39.6% from 35.0%.

The lowest rate will rise to 15% from 10%. All the rates in between will also go up. The "marriage penalty" (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of taxable income.

The child tax credit will be halved to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: business; economy; ibd; obama

1 posted on 11/07/2012 4:34:46 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22

This is one of the most amazing things to me about this election..how can you still blame bush....how? It’s been 4 looong years...just amazing!


2 posted on 11/07/2012 4:38:33 PM PST by yellowdoghunter
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To: raptor22
President Obama Succeeded In Blaming Bush For Economy

That's one of the exit poll results I saw this morning. It didn't really surprise me because I knew it was a function of having the media on your side.

Obama wasn't challenged on anything. Ever. Certainly not on blaming the economy on Bush.

As much as it sounds like a broken record, until conservatives find a way to neutralize the mainstream media, it will always start each game down a few touchdowns.

3 posted on 11/07/2012 4:38:59 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: raptor22

The freeloader class never takes responsibility for themselves. What makes you think they’d blame the head of their little cult? George Bush is a convenient scapegoat.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 4:39:56 PM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: yellowdoghunter

How long were they able to blame Hoover for all the ails of the 1930’s? When the MSM is your mouthpiece, you can make people believe the sun rises in the west.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 4:42:55 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: yellowdoghunter

simple...if someone calls you a dumba$$ over and over and over and you never respond or push back eventually people will start to believe you are a dumba$$....

did you ever see a concerted effort from the GOP “leadership” (that’s a joke) to really place the blame on obama??? did they ever, on a constant basis, point out the hypocrisy of the media on this issue???


6 posted on 11/07/2012 4:47:14 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: yellowdoghunter

The DemonRAT story goes with the idea that it was Bush that caused the economic collapse of 2007. The collapse was caused by greedy bankers encouraged by Bush policies. It also was the result of Bush tax reductions to the rich. The Dems call it the top down economy which was proven to be the wrong course for America and caused the economic collapse. Everything was blamed on the economic collapse except the real cause: The Democrat’s failure to reign the housing market when they knew the housing bubble was about to burst.

Because of the alleged failure of the Republicans, the damage was so complete, it has taken Obama everything he can do to fix it.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 4:48:35 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: xzins

Bizarrely enough, I saw a lot of “conservatives” on this very same forum blaming Bush this morning. Bush Derangement Syndrome...it’s an ugly disease, no matter who has it.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 4:51:54 PM PST by livius
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Now Obama inherits his own mess.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 4:51:54 PM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: abb

“How long were they able to blame Hoover for all the ails of the 1930’s?”

Amen. They seriously still blame Hoover for the length and severity of the Great Depression. This is even though New Deal adminstration officials recognized at the time that their policies made things so bad for so long. Much less all the analysis since then. If the economy crashes into a 100 year depression, history will still blame Bush. As long as it is written by these ‘Rats.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 4:52:14 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: God luvs America

The answer is no....it was like they were scared to. The media is definitely a problem...but what to do about it?


11 posted on 11/07/2012 4:52:14 PM PST by yellowdoghunter
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To: raptor22

It would seem that a lot of us have hard decisions to make concerning selling dividend paying stocks as well as real estate if the deal can be closed by 12/31/12.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 4:54:43 PM PST by Truth29
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To: yellowdoghunter

The willful ignorance of the American population has become a form of great oppression and evil so when the system crashes and burns within the next 2 to 6 years they will learn the hard way that there is a difference between right and wrong. Truth exists and it is important for them to know it if they want to return to civilization.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 5:11:08 PM PST by formosa
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To: raptor22
Now Obama inherits his own mess.

Unfortunately, as long as his media keeps blaming Bush, he will never be blamed for this by the misinformed. I believe the mantra is so ingrained in the leftist mind, that they will never be lead to believe otherwise.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 5:18:00 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: raptor22
Now Obama inherits his own mess.

They'll find a way to blame us and their little butt kissers in the MSM will back them...

15 posted on 11/07/2012 5:21:31 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
This was a losing argument for the GOP.

GOP : “ Hi, please vote for governor Romney.
Undecided Voter:”Why?

GOP : “Because he knows how to fix the economy and wants to get started
Undecided Voter:”How will he do that?

GOP :”By cutting taxes and government regulations and drilling for oil

Undecided Voter:”Didn't Bush try that when he was in office?

GOP : “Well...(sweating)
Undecided Voter:”And it didn't work that well. That is how Obama got elected

GOP : “Those policies worked great. Its just that Barney Frank and Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton screwed up the economy in 2008. That was all THEIR fault,
So elect Romney so he can start Fixin things again

Undecided Voter thinking:(”Wow, this guy's a psycho. I better get away from him before he gets violent. I don't want anyone like that near the white house”)

Undecided Voter : “Thanks! I will.

I think Obama’s weak performance in the first debate was carefully planned so Romney wouldn't look so good in the second two debates when Obama got aggressive. I dont think that was an accident.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 5:33:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: abb

The parallels with the Great Depression are amazing. We are very much repeating history. Thankfully Obama only gets 2 terms.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 5:36:37 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

they are scared and they fight like little girls...what to do?? i don’t know- get more people like Allen West, Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani who are not afraid to call the media out...

get rid of the present people in charge of the GOP...this stuff is hard but we’ve got nothing to lose at this point...


18 posted on 11/07/2012 5:40:42 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: FreedomPoster

And the ‘Progressives’ still believe that FDR saved the US from the Great Depression, when in fact he caused it.
What people learn from history is that people don’t learn from history.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 5:44:56 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: sickoflibs

I think you’re boiling this down to the point that it looks silly.

Obama has been very bad for business. All Romney would have to do is reverse a lot of the regulations implemented under Obama to get things headed in the right direction.

Support permits for Gulf drilling. Allow the pipeline from Canada. Get the EPA off the back of the coal, and other industries. End a majority of Obamacare.

Romney covered this stuff. People chose to ignore it.

It was sound policy. Kudos to Romney for making the points. You can lead a horse to water...


20 posted on 11/07/2012 5:45:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans are still without power.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

For those old enough to remember, when Ronald Reagan became president and inherited an economy that was in shambles, the media made a big deal out of the fact that once he put in his first budget, the economy was his. Now, four years after Obama was elected, the media pushes the idea that the economy is still not Obama’s. No double standard or bias here.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 5:51:33 PM PST by falcon99
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To: FreedomPoster

Obama likes being President but doesn’t like doing the work of the office. After 8 years he may be ready to retire and take it even easier than he has been doing. We are lucky to have the 22nd amendment—he might try to stay in there by running Michelle in 2016 but there are too many ambitious politicians in the ‘Rat party waiting for their turn—Hillary, Cuomo, maybe others. Maybe Christie will switch parties now that he has killed his future in the Republican Party and run as a Democrat. The one thing that we can count on is that whoever the Democratic nominee in 2016 it will be someone just as bad as Obama.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 6:01:28 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: DoughtyOne
RE :”I think you’re boiling this down to the point that it looks silly.”

That imaginary but likely exchange shows the serious problems that Romney had running as a Bush like candidate. That problem stems from the GWB years and the GOP apologist arguments that followed.

Of course Romney avoided the GWB subject like the plague because he knew this. But that didn’t work. He needed to be able to address it directly but couldn't.

23 posted on 11/07/2012 6:03:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: DoughtyOne
RE :”Kudos to Romney for making the points”

He is just another irrelevant loser, In fact he didn't even leave any marks on Obama, He was so civil to him. It was O that went negative and demonized Romney.

Romney just wasted every ones time. I give him nothing.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 6:07:49 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Nothing new here. The Democrats blamed Hoover for the Great Depressions and kept on blaming him long after FDR should have owned the problems his policies created. It worked then and clearly the smoke-and-mirrors game still works.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 6:08:48 PM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: falcon99

Maybe because Obama hasn’t produced a budget yet?


26 posted on 11/07/2012 6:42:46 PM PST by SargeK
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I've always been a GWBush supporter...’

but I'm now angry that he has not stood up for us, as we stood up for him.

he has not stood up for the office he held for eight years and allowed B.Hussein to constantly insult him..

HE NEEDED TO SPEAK UP AND HE STOOD SILENT ALL DURING THIS ELECTION...HE HAS LET ME DOWN..I WILL NO LONGER STAND UP FOR HIM.

27 posted on 11/07/2012 9:21:33 PM PST by haircutter
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To: raptor22
Now Obama inherits his own mess.

The New York Times will still blame Bush for the next four years - they're total suck-ups.

Maybe the boys at the NYT's can get on the gravy train and force taxpayers to pay for their Dem/PRNewsWiredPropagandaSheet... Michael Moore feels storms and destruction work for dems... and he's right - looting too. WOW - what a great party. When joy comes from the misery of broken citizens, is it sweeter? Moore and the New York Times knows...

Climb on that bandwagon journalists. Citizens don't want your stuff so FORCE them by taking their tax dollars to re-write dem Press Releases. You believe in looting... and the joy of broken citizens - go for it.

The New York Times Slogan can be : "We rewrite Democrat Press Releases Better!" It's a go.

28 posted on 11/08/2012 7:21:51 AM PST by GOPJ (New York Times Slogan : "We rewrite Democrat Press Releases Better!")
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To: haircutter
I agree with you on your main point.

I know the Bush Presidents think it s classy never to speak against an existing President but they are wrong. The mainstream media never thought it was classy and were complicit in the demonization of the Bushes and their policies. The end result is that a majority of the public continues to blame the policies of GWB for the financial recession.

Worst of all they associate the ideas of limited government, lower taxes, free markets and free people as policies that only benefit the rich. The Bushes behavior might be considered honorable and dignified in polite and respectful society, but in the real world of the current culture of the United States, one dominated by a corrupt media, it is tantamount to capitulation of one’s own principles.

The Bushes were wrong not to fight back. They let us down.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 7:51:25 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: daviscupper

The Bushes = the Republican Party’s Kennedy dynasty.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 7:54:11 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

This is why is was EASY to call Red Hampshire for Obama, when EVERYONE else thought Romney was a shoo-in...every single day of the week; there were letters in local newspaper shredding Bush for one thing or another...right up until Election Day. The irrational hatred for all things Bush in NH was, and still is, palpable. Funny when you consider they are from New England, NOT Texas.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 7:58:13 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

You can defund the media by cutting your cable and canceling newspaper subscriptions, but very few can let go...until then; get used to it.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 8:05:23 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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