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Vanity: ***Focus Kids...The Real Question I HOW Did They Do It***
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Posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:31 AM PST by The Wizard

We know we had the intensity, we know we had the ground game, and we know we had the turn out that gave us larger numbers than McCain or bama, so, the question needs to be HOW did they do it.

Too many knowledgeable folks who were correct in their assumptions said Romney should have won. Start from that pretense and start looking at the method that could have been used to accomplish the "flip" of votes.....(Only counting every 4th Romney Vote, etc)

My guess is that 4 or more million votes were channeled to bama from Romney in the critical areas that were needed to win....it only needed to be in certain states and viola bama wins....

When you own the DOJ there's no one looking for the problem, (They killed JFK, they ain't just going to roll over) and after seeing what can happen without "Safeguards"= 2010) they were working full time to offset that from happening again....

There was just to much at stake to allow an honest election.

Focus kids......there is someone out there that knows how this was done, you need to find them.


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:36 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: All

We need some common sense.....IMHO


2 posted on 11/07/2012 2:59:15 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: The Wizard

Did republicans equal 2008 turnout, or did Romney depress the vote?


3 posted on 11/07/2012 3:03:51 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: The Wizard

It’s demographics. No matter how well of a candidate and campaign Rs run in national elections, they will lose from this point on.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:23 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: ansel12

Romney attracted less votes than McCain


5 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:55 AM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: The Wizard

This is really weird, these numbers don’t makes sense. I guess Obama took his cue from Hugo Chavez.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 3:07:27 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: The Wizard
You know, I see a lot of blame Romney, blame the Jersey governor, blame the Republican elite, I say lets see if the damn election was honest before we start throwing rocks.
And that's a big *if* at the way the numbers are starting to look.
7 posted on 11/07/2012 3:09:06 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: The Wizard

Common sense tells me the path this country is on and it doesn’t look good. We must always remember that God is in control, no matter what we think or do.

For the same reason that you can’t put new wine in an old flask or repair an old garment with new cloth, it is now time to get rid of the old to prepare for the new. People who are full of themselves have no room for God. We are just about ready for a period of consequences of our actions.

Hang onto your hat as the ride is about to get real bumpy, but don’t worry as we already know that there will be a happy ending.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 3:09:43 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Utmost Certainty

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/romney-wins-white-vote-by-same-margin-as-reagan-did-in-1980-landslide/article/2512819#.UJo_B4l5nTo


9 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:14 AM PST by MNDude
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

As of now, so is Obama.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:50 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I don’t believe we have those numbers yet.

And in any case - if there proves to have been decisive fraud in the swing states - it doesn’t make sense to blame the RR ticket.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:55 AM PST by agere_contra ("Government creates nothing" - Romney, 2012)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I was looking at old numbers


12 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:18 AM PST by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: MNDude

Bingo.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:43 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: The Wizard

Easy.

It was over when they picked Mitt Romney.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:10 AM PST by delapaz
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To: The Wizard

Early voting and media manipulation sure didn’t help. I also think very long ballots might play a role.

I notice that one of my former Union neighbors who lives in Florida chose this week for his vacation in Michigan. He owns a house in both states.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 3:16:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: The Wizard

Has anyone seen a list of ‘votes cast’ vs ‘number of legal ballots’ per state?

If the ‘votes cast’/’legal ballots’ is very high then we know this was won by fraud.

If about 60,000 ‘legal ballots’ per state retail back to vacant lots or gravestones then this was won by fraud.

And if this was indeed won by fraud, then America has suffered a coup.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 3:17:57 AM PST by agere_contra ("Government creates nothing" - Romney, 2012)
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To: The Wizard
Short term, the left controls the means of propaganda. They covered for Obama's weaknesses and spread a false narrative about Romney

Long term, the left controls academia so they often control how "educated" people evaluate things and make decisions.

The Republican establishment, yet again, put forward a flawed candidate who was not willing to do what he needed to do to win. They executed a campaign that didn't clearly define the candidate and and his program. They failed to take the fight to their opponent and went into a shell when Sandy hit - the same way McCain did when the financial crisis hit and he "suspended" his campaign. How much of this was Romney and how much of it was the people who ran the campaign we don't know.

17 posted on 11/07/2012 3:18:48 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Remember: Election day is November 6 - no matter what your voter's pamphlet says)
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To: The Wizard

Nothing makes sense anymore. So much discontentment and anger. Unemployment and debt and divisiveness. I really thought citizens were speaking with their votes, and we were going to put our country back on track. The momentum was there. I am so stunned. Cynicism is setting in and I am throwing up my hands. All I have to look forward to is that Benghazi will lead to his downfall but then, these robotic short attention span voters have to care first. I’m just babbling now but honestly, I am do stunned.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 3:20:32 AM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: All

may I leave you with the one great thing that HAS come out of this election as I go to work:

Bama WILL ABSOLUTELY BE GONE in a few years, and we can start now to undo what he has put in place.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 3:20:42 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: agere_contra

They realized they couldn’t continue to stuff ballot boxes when precincts started coming in with 110% of the registered voters. They are now flipping Romney votes to Obama votes via electronic voting machines. Obama had the depressed turnout...we heard about all the short lines in the cities, they just flipped a few hundred thousand votes and voila.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 3:22:03 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: The Wizard

There is no way to know how many illegal votes were counted.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 3:23:51 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ez

I’m afraid you’re right ,, and then we had the “traditional” method in Florida of not counting metro Dade until they know how many votes the rat needs.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 3:26:18 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: The Wizard

He will leave his mark on SCOTUS for decades.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 3:26:36 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: delapaz

Easy.

It was over when they picked Mitt Romney.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Again, the Republican establishment imposed a candidate on the conservative electorate. He did not make issues top their powerful extent, chosing instead a gentlemanly road
in order to attract the independents? Well again, as it did with McCain, IT DID NOT WORK.

The GOP is dead as far as I am concerned.Sarah Palin was our best hope, and she was summarily ejected from the halls of Republican power. HORRIBLE!

Now the RINOS are quiffiung on natiopnal TV about how the failed to “reach out” to minorities? Buahahahahahaha! This minorities need to become Americans, and the Republican party should be converting them to the conservative cause, instaed of “reaching out.”

Sarah Palin and those like her are the only remaining hope for America. And we will prevail electorally or by force majeur in order to protect and defend the Constitution.

THE GOP IS DEAD......and it needs to bury itself and allow conservative patriots a free board.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 3:27:43 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: The Wizard

Race


25 posted on 11/07/2012 3:28:08 AM PST by expat1000
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To: ez

personally I think this is likely true....But I am not a student of how to do this, and wouldn’t even know where to begin to figure it out. that’s what you get for spending your life working in the legitimate system. they fight a different war, one we are not equipped for.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 3:29:23 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: The Wizard

Gods will


27 posted on 11/07/2012 3:31:59 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: The Wizard

computer voting... so easy to lose a few million votes into the ether with no paper trail


28 posted on 11/07/2012 3:34:41 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tired&retired

I think O is just one piece in the end time prophecy. In order to get to that happy ending he had to win. The stage is set. Fear not.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 3:37:21 AM PST by FES0844
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To: The Wizard
BS....he may never leave...and his mark on our country will never be erased....

they rigged the election, stole it, and now we are nothing more than a banana republic...

30 posted on 11/07/2012 3:38:45 AM PST by cherry
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"He will leave his mark on SCOTUS for decades"

You nailed it here. This is the one power that a president has (with congressional approval), that has the most impact IMHO since the SCOTUS appointments are for life. I shudder to think of what type of leftist idealogue (or 2) that hussein will appoint. I have no faith in the spineless Republican congress to reject any far left appointments.

The last 2A case before the court was a narrow 5-4 decision in our favor, but with the appointments that hussein is likely to make, I fear the result of the next 2A case brought before the SCOTUS.

31 posted on 11/07/2012 3:43:19 AM PST by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: The Cajun

>>>>And that’s a big *if* at the way the numbers are starting to look.

I read something on Facebook that claimed there had been evidence of voter fraud in Ohio . . . 20,000 votes from unregistered voters (or something like that).

Anyone heard any news about that?


32 posted on 11/07/2012 3:43:43 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: agere_contra

Yesterday we had a big thread explaining that when Romney wins the Libs will scream fraud. Now we have a thread claiming fraud because Romney lost.

I hated both candidates, so it does not matter to me, but this seems pretty hypocritical.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 3:44:06 AM PST by sakic
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To: The Wizard
Ultimately, we still had a milquetoast candidate. The GOP leadership loves moderate, and undermined Conservatives, so we have to settle for a mediocre candidate.

Polling: Have we ever considered that the pollsters Rasmussen etc) who for weeks have shown Romney up 3 to6 points are being paid to do so by the Dems. We cannot ever trust Pollsters.

We need to get the GOP Leadership completely replaced. Not just the politicians, but the guys in the smokey back rooms who do not run for office.

34 posted on 11/07/2012 3:45:12 AM PST by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: GeronL

Could it be...maybe...perhaps... that the polls were right? Could it be that the 47 million on food stamps actually LIKE being on food stamps?

Every poll on FR was shredded saying there was no way the communists and retards in the electorate outnumbered Republicans. They did.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 3:46:25 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: ez

State by state, the US needs to true the vote. A pure electronic system isn’t going to cut it.

In Britain we use paper ballots marked with Xs - and every ballot has a machine-read registration code that in principle allows the entire vote to be completely audited.

That ability to audit the vote was used to jail several Lefties in a council election a few years back.

And when I say paper ballots I do mean ones marked with Xs. We mustn’t use punch cards where vast numbers of votes can be annulled with one push of a long metal rod - as was the problem in Florida 2000.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 3:47:01 AM PST by agere_contra ("Government creates nothing" - Romney, 2012)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

How can that be, when the turnout was very high in R areas and very low in D areas?

I suspect that if the numbers are analyzed we’ll find over 100% turnout in lots of places. When that happens will it be crazy conspiracy talk to suggest that there’s been massive fraud?

There is a reason that R observers were thrown out of the polling places (even against the orders of a judge) and replaced with D observers instead, in the critical battleground states. It’s criminal, and it needs to be investigated. Give all the players some truth serum and let’s find out what really happened.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 3:47:28 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: The Wizard

Our Last free election was in 2008, it’s over now, God has turned his back on America. The republican leadership are New World Order big government fascists.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 3:50:47 AM PST by stockpirate (Slaves to the collective! SCOTUS is just as corrupt as congress. IMPEACH ROBERTS!)
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To: The Wizard
We can sit and over-analyze this for weeks, but the bottom line is that the “free stuff” crowd has spoken. We are in the midst of changing demographics that will lead us leftward into 3rd-world status, which will only be exacerbated with “immigration reform”. The constitution is an afterthought. It's all about “what can the government do for me?” I don't see us having a Republican president, let alone a Conservative president for a while if ever. The paradigm shift in the American psyche is happening right before our eyes and it isn't good.
39 posted on 11/07/2012 3:50:58 AM PST by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

As much as it pains me to say this, the truth is very simple. It has become more and more crystal clear that they have managed to create a super majority of amoral, ill informed greedy peasants that will continue to vote for more handouts, free birth control pills, and sticking it to the “wealthy”.
We can point fingers at the media for covering up and protecting them,the spineless republicans for allowing them to shape the agenda, an endless number of excuses. When it comes down to it, these are all just symptoms of the greater problem. America is stuck on stupid, and unfortunately we just witnessed the greasing of the ramp to oblivion.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 3:51:35 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: The Cajun

My sentiments exactly. Obama’s MO has always been to do a great big blatant fraud and move on to bigger and worse things before the truth can get its shoes tied. We need to get our shoes tied quickly, before the ADHD American society shrugs and moves on to less important things.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 3:52:01 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: The Wizard

The United States is morally and ethically bankrupt. There’s no room for common sense.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 3:52:03 AM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: The Wizard

>>>>Bama WILL ABSOLUTELY BE GONE in a few years, and we can start now to undo what he has put in place.

Except by that time, lots of people will have become dependent (or will claim to have become dependent) on Obamacare, and any other entitlement program being set up now. Also the hazy vagueness of Dodd-Frank — which says nothing about abolishing government bailouts of cronies who cry “we’re too big to fail”, will have been fully implemented, and it’s nefarious effects on investment and business — i.e., creating and aggravating massive uncertainty — will have been in place for a few years. No one will blame Dodd-Frank for lack of investment and lack of new jobs, and everyone will say, “See? Capitalism failed.”

I suspect that in 2016, we might see a Democrat run explicitly as a socialist, or on a platform of outright nationalization of key industries (energy, finance, etc.).

This election was a referendum on the morals and values of the electorate. So I don’t see many good options going forward.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 3:53:46 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: stuartcr

That’s what I see. The message for me now needs to be “REPENT!!” It’s obviously no longer going to be handled politically.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 3:54:19 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (Iibera nos a malo (Obama, aka: malum vir per puteulanus labiae))
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To: FerociousRabbit
there was actual passion, huge gatherings, etc all anecdotal for sure, but Mitt had this one....it was stolen...

the polls were right?....which ones?...the ones saying Mitt was way ahead in Va and Florida and Col....

it was vote rigging...pure and simple...

45 posted on 11/07/2012 3:56:10 AM PST by cherry
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom

A better question is how can he be removed?


46 posted on 11/07/2012 3:56:38 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: sakic

Does actual evidence make any difference as to whether a person should claim fraud? For instance, if there are precincts with more people voting than actually exist, would it be hypocritical to say there was fraud there?

We have GOT to get back to an evidence-based system, rather than just not wanting to appear this or that way.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 3:57:22 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: stuartcr

That’s what I see. The message for me now needs to be “REPENT!!” It’s obviously no longer going to be handled politically.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 3:58:27 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (Iibera nos a malo (Obama, aka: malum vir per puteulanus labiae))
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

as an example of stupidity....in Washington state we apparently just elected a law clerk with no trial exp as attorney general...rat of course.....over a US attorney with lots of exp....


49 posted on 11/07/2012 3:58:52 AM PST by cherry
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To: agere_contra

“State by state, the US needs to true the vote. A pure electronic system isn’t going to cut it.”

And don’t forget that voter id must be required to vote. NO provisional ballots. We must require responsibility if you want to vote. We now control more state houses let’s go to work.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 4:00:23 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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