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The PJ Tatler ^ | November 6, 2012 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 11/06/2012 11:35:05 PM PST by Bratch

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To: Bratch

A bit pessimistic. I am still hopeful that GOP will hold firm and let the country fall off the fiscal cliff. Everyone will share the pain and realize that there is no free lunch. Then we will see some real budget cutting. As one of the few who actually pays taxes (more than my share actually thanks to AMT) I will be delighted to see everyone including the lowest paid share the misery.

The continuing resolutions are a major problem. GOP should refuse to continue funding until Obama agrees to come to the table on the budget. We may not like compromise but we need to follow the process set up by law, not just push the problem forward.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 12:12:10 AM PST by KingofZion
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To: GeronL

“a million fake votes will do wonders in the right places”

I’ll probably never be able to prove it, but no way Obama should have won Florida. None. Ohio I can see with their odd mix of demos and the low UE rate. Colorado was leaning Romney and he loses. VA leaning Romney and he loses.

With the exception of NC and IN which were too big of a lead for Obama to rig, Romney lost every swing, even ones he was leading in.

I’ll never know for sure but it stinks.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 12:14:54 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Danette

I live in Texas and spoke this afternoon with some employers who have NO CHOICE but to issue layoff notices after Thanksgiving to some 150 to 200 employees. They simply will not be able to afford them.

I moved here to get away from the b.s. up and down job market instability of Florida. It followed me...tons of jobs in Texas? Sure...if you want to make $11.00 an hour with a B.S. Degree.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 12:17:10 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: DannyTN
You think a liberal lost tonight well I guess you didn't hear Obamapieceofcrap won reelection and Romney care as you call it was not forced on every state like Obamacare is guess what now we have no chance of getting rid of it.

Just remember Obamapieceofcrap is your president too so while you may trying to be funny the joke is on you and the rest of us. Enjoy the next 4 years comrade.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 12:17:52 AM PST by funfan
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To: over3Owithabrain

This election like the last one was about one thing....a black man winning.

It was always about race and white guilt.

Nothing more and nothing less.

All of the blacks voted for him...even the ones with not a dime to their name...Obama did shit for the black community and they repaid him for it tonight by making sure he stays on the job for 4 more years.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 12:21:13 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: Doomonyou

If by “community organizing” you mean flagrant voter fraud and vote machine tampering I’d agree. The GOP spent the past 4 years planning
to get more votes. The dems spent the last 4 perfecting the vote stealing, tampering and fraud methods. When a group who mostly plays fair competes with a group that cheats and does so enthusiastically and with no
qualms or regrets the outcome is pretty much decided before it even gets
going.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 12:23:13 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: over3Owithabrain

The GOP/Romney won’t fight it


27 posted on 11/07/2012 12:25:17 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Ditto Latinos. Obama has actually increased deportations, fulfilled none of his promises to them, sent guns to kill their people in Mexico, and killed jobs that they could have had.

But Latinos showed up in droves and along with blacks and women provided the necessary votes.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 12:25:45 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: funfan

This election was going to be bad no matter which liberal won.

Sure Romney would have made it optional for the states. Optional with BIG federal purse strings that no state could refuse. He probably would have turned the tax penalty into a tax credit too. But it’s all semantics.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 12:35:15 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
We could argue those points but I really do believe that Romney does not hate America. Obama hates what America stands for so does his crew and they are going to make it pay.

Put on your seat belt it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

30 posted on 11/07/2012 12:45:33 AM PST by funfan
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To: Bratch

Thanks for all the encouragement, Fox News. Buttholes


31 posted on 11/07/2012 12:51:48 AM PST by oyez (ex-GOP)
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To: funfan

We can tell everybody “we told you so” from the the re-education center if we are given permission .


32 posted on 11/07/2012 12:56:16 AM PST by oyez (ex-GOP)
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To: over3Owithabrain

You know, I would expand that a little more and state that obama has pretty much done something similar all over the board.

1) Claims to be for the poor yet supports a Wall Street oligopoly in finance.
2) Claims to be for more humaneness toward terrorists but runs a far more intensive drone strike program than Bush and still keeps Gitmo intact.
3) Claims to be for racial minorities, yet calls pretty much on a whim that something from firefighting tests to arrests made is racist. (Calls it on a whim)
4). Talks about getting bin Laden but blames a clearly organized outburst as originating from a video made by a mentally-challenged individual as the cause.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 1:28:36 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: oyez

Done with Fox. THEY looked all tingly tonight. Could’nt stand Megyn Phony !


34 posted on 11/07/2012 1:28:51 AM PST by tartar1000
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To: Bratch
” Republicans will have to study that ground game and find a way to beat it just as the football world had to study and defeat the flex defense. That’s not a job for ideologues, but for tacticians who understand ideology and communication.”

Unfortunately there is NO ONE in the Republican party who has the ability to do this. And they are reluctant to find professionals who have the capabilities to develop and implement a winning game plan.

35 posted on 11/07/2012 4:23:10 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Bratch

It is not voter fraud, bad Republican candidates or poor ground game. It is the American voter.

We had a choice yesterday: Freedom or Free Stuff. America chose free stuff.

It was bound to happen some day and that day was yesterday.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 5:09:14 AM PST by Bob Buchholz
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To: over3Owithabrain

Blacks are 10% of the electorate and vote 95% Dem. Latinos are 10% today and rapidly growing. They voted 75% Dem. Dems have 17.5% guaranteed before the election begins. Add another 2.5% with Jews, Muslims, and Asians. Dems only need 30% from the white population, Repubs start with the 3% of blacks and Hispanics who don’t vote Dem.

The white population is declining rapidly as a % of the population and electorate. Plus Dems have been successful capturing a disproportionate share of white females with their war on women rhetoric. There are not enough conservative white men to carry the Republicans to victory.

Another way to look at it is the way Romney did. 47% of the population receives a government check and will vote to protect its benefits. If you are the party credited with granting and protecting benefits you need only swing 3 to 5% of the remaining voters to win. There are enough young voters and white working females responsive to emotional appeals to swing.

Finally, there is the phenomenon of urban versus rural. People living in cities necessarily cede freedom to live in an urban area. They are dependent on 21st century technology and the government administered infrastructure to maintain order and deliver food required for survival. These people accept government restrictions on freedom and appreciat its ability to collect money from individuals which is then pooled for the common good. They endure high taxes because they enjoy the mass transit, police protection, fire protection, water system, museums, sorts stadiums, concert halls, garbage collection, street festivals, parks, zoos, schools and roads the government provides. The country is becoming more urban and the Dems control urban governments. These urban voters are favorably disposed to Dem promises of more services. What does individual liberty mean to someone living in an 800 square foot apartment who rides a subsidized bus to work and perceives jogging through a government maintained park as communing with nature? Perhaps having the choice of 200 cable TV channels, the ability to walk to dozens of good restaurants, and an occasional ball game or concert is enough freedom. If so, the conservative message of individual liberty and limited government will not be compelling, particularly when combined with a promise to reduce spending on government services.

The nation’s electorate has shifted demographically and geographically. A growing minority and urban population does not perceive opportunity in limited government and the personal accountability associated with individual liberty. To them the tangible government delivered benefits, made possible by taxing individuals for the common good, are more meaningful than the abstract opportunity to make the most of one’s God given talents particularly when the opportunity afforded by freedom means accepting the very real risk of failure.

True conservatives are a shrinking minority. The majority of the nation desires the benefits of the collective state. As long as the masses do not bear it’s cost, and go home to a warm and dry home with a widescreen TV, they will be content. To the voters who now decide elections, freedom is the ability to sit at home choosing between hundreds of channels and being able to have recreational sex without consequences thanks to government paid abortions and child support depending on which choice one makes for the unborn.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:15 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Bob Buchholz

We had a choice yesterday: Freedom or Free Stuff. America chose free stuff.

It was bound to happen some day and that day was yesterday.


True that. People have been warning about the “tipping point” for years. We have arrived. Start with 47% of the citizenry who pay no federal income taxes as your base. Now all you need is another 3.1%, which is easy to cobble together from among the public-school indoctrinated electorate, incapable of any independent, critical thought.

Until everyone, and I mean *everyone* — even the poorest of the poor — pays some federal income taxes, the pols who promise the most free stuff will garner the most votes.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 5:33:19 AM PST by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: Bratch

“Obama has every reason to move to the center to make his second term successful, but he will not.”

Obama has NO reason to move to the center, in fact I think he will go full steam ahead to the left. Look for more executive orders and fiats from our new King. Welcome to slavery.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 6:01:32 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: expat1000

“find their tax dollars being shifted out of their communities at an accelerated rate.”

Fiscally responsible states will be forced to bail out California and Illinois. 401s will be seized to pay for fat welfare momma’s cadillac and kids. Watch for it.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 6:26:02 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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