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Putting This In Perspective (Negative One But Still)

Posted on 11/06/2012 9:18:51 PM PST by Williams

When I contemplated this happening earlier today, I resolved not to go crazy if it did. The best I could do is to remember how horrible it was to see Bill Clinton reelected in 1996. He was corrupt, evil, divisive. Many forget he spoke to a black church and tied Bob Dole to church bombings. He also launched cruise missiles (ineffectively) at Al Queda camps for political reasons within hours of his latest attack on Ken Starr being badly received. He was a bad president and a bad man. He was impeached deservedly after that election and it was all just a further disaster. I'd say Obama is worse but I hated Clinton more and he was a terrible terrible man and president.

So that's it, we've been here before. It was horrible with Clinton. But we survived.

That's it, not much, but what can you expect on a night like tonight?

And as much as we hate Dick Morris for being full of it now, his presence in the Clinton White House convinced that horrible liberal president to tack right and save us from the worst evils of leftism.

Oh God, I'm just reminding myself how much worse this is.


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KEYWORDS: livingwiththis

1 posted on 11/06/2012 9:18:53 PM PST by Williams
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To: Williams

I tried to mentally prepare myself for this. It’s still hard to take, but at least I’m not getting a panic attack like the first time he won.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 9:21:06 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Williams

But it feels like 15% real unemployment and 16 trillion in debt ... 75x more food stsmps than jobs, executive orders, no borders, nationalized medicine.

We’ve gone past the point of return. United Soviet States will collapse. Only way the welfare state will end. What kind of world will that be?

We threw away a great nation. No getting it back.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:42 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Thorliveshere

Onward...that’s all we can do. We won’t give up our scruples or beliefs. This is a test; trial by fire. It wasn’t a landslide for Bath-House; we have plenty of company.

GIRD your loins!


4 posted on 11/06/2012 9:27:22 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: TigerClaws

we’ll have massive taxes to pay for all the free phones, free houses, free health care...be prepared...


5 posted on 11/06/2012 9:27:48 PM PST by cherry
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To: TigerClaws

Good posts above. We’ll be fine. The sun will rise and we’ll have our chance in 2016 with Rubio. I think Romney screwed himself with some of his gaffes and not allowing Ryan the chance to do more during the campaign. Still in the meantime we can’t take an us versus them approach. We’ve got big problems facing us and having no compromise among the parties is going to sink us all. Hey I’m no millionaire but I’m a job creator and I have no problem with them paying a little more for us to compromise on getting spending cuts and no tax increases on those not millionaires. Good night


6 posted on 11/06/2012 9:28:24 PM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: Williams

Personally, I fooled myself into believing the state polls were wrong and biased.. I was wrong. I listened to the echo chamber. I think we should have won and now the county will never be serious about spending. But too bad. The rest of the county disagrees. The next time some conservative says we live in a center right county I’m going to throw a brick through the TV.


7 posted on 11/06/2012 9:28:49 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Williams

Expect more Executive Orders to be issued to further Obama’s agenda without Congressional approval, expect more spending and cronyism, and expect more social welfare programs...


8 posted on 11/06/2012 9:29:05 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Feel the Power - GOP Tsunami Warning Issued for November 6th)
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To: TigerClaws
"We threw away a great nation. No getting it back."

We still have one box remaining.
9 posted on 11/06/2012 9:29:12 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: cherry

Boehner won’t raise taxes. You can bank on that.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 9:29:26 PM PST by RC one
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I listened to the echo chamber

If you didn't you'd have been called a "concerned troll". The best of us have.

11 posted on 11/06/2012 9:30:31 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Mortrey

Amen.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 9:30:33 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Williams

Clinton is no where near as bad as zero. zero is a freakin’ muslim.

All those radio talk show hosts can go ph*q themselves. They could have exposed the muslim for what he was. But no, they cared more about their safety and financial situations.

Hey Rush, how’s life on that island? Sipping some tea for two?
Proud of yourself?

And you, Beck what the blazes have you done to save this Country. You didn’t expose what needed to be exposed.

Thieves all of you.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 9:31:00 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Williams

The bottom line is that the pigs have won. A once virtuous nation has elected and reelected Clinton and Obama. The pigs now hold a slight but real majority. Ben Franklin once said “We have given you a republic, if you can keep it” The inherent flaw of every democracy be it Athens, Rome, Florence. Hanover , modern day Europe or America, is that lowlifes outnumber the virtuous and eventually destroy political entities. There will always be lowlifes like Obama and Clinton, and the people who elected them. Far better for the virtuous to concentrate on their own personal lives, families and local communities.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 9:32:24 PM PST by allendale
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To: Williams

Republicans need a leader. Romney is a decent person but no leader. I hope Rubio is the guy.

The problem from the beginning was a lack of strong candidates. The good news is that we may have a better selection next time than the Democrats have.


15 posted on 11/06/2012 9:33:08 PM PST by djpg
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To: Williams

I am stunned you guys and feeling really bad. We thought he would win Florida.

My wife is trying to encourage me that the US survived the civil war, WWII and the great depression.

But, I seriously fear for our nation.

We are on the eve of destruction. 20 trillion in debt means and end to life as we know it.

Gas and food prizes will continue to rise.

How could this horrible president get re-elected? Are there really that many dumb asses?

I don’t want to talk to any liberals at work Wednesday. Really want to withdraw. My bitterness against liberals is growing — can’t stand them any more. They have destroyed our nation.

I live in a state where the dumb asses just legalized gay marriage and marijuana. Eve of destruction.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 9:34:31 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Williams

I remember how disappointed I was when Bob Dole lost. He was a really good man, in my view a better man than any of the Republican presidential candidates than we have had since. It’s pathetic, but as you say, we’ve been through it before.I was thinking back to 1980, the first presidential election I voted in, and the way Reagan won in a landslide and it was all over by 8 p.m. eastern. Those days are gone.\

Obama has succeeded in dividing the country. The only way the GOP will ever win the presidency again is to draw VERY CLEAR lines about why the GOP is a better choice. And the GOP must work to reach out to everyone in order to do that. It isn’t just about immigration, abortion, or any other one issue. There will always be hard-liners on any particular issue, and I count myself among them. But Romney failed to excite people. That’s the bottom line. And until the repubicans can manage to do it, they won’t win.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 9:34:59 PM PST by malkee (V)
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To: Williams

There won’t be any coming back from this. By 2016, even if a Republican wins the race, the economy will be in such a mess that he will simply be unable to fix it.

We had our chance this time - we failed. Obama now has his mandate to finish what he started.

Welcome to the new third-world socialist America.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 9:35:19 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (You are not now, and will never be my President, Obama.)
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To: Williams

[[He was corrupt, evil, divisive]]

True, but he didn’t bully the supreme court, nor did he ignore the constitution, and for htem ost part he didn’t attack religion while protecting muslims by blaming Americans liek current president is doing and will continue diong

dear leader is a whole nother level of evil than clinton was- dear leader is hell bent on destroying our moral fiber in this country, and he is hell bent on bringign about socialism- clinton ‘moderated’ somewhat- dear leader never will- especially not now that he gets to spit in our faces for another 4 years


19 posted on 11/06/2012 9:37:57 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: TigerClaws
Start the poll now - how long until we're Greece? How long to complete fiscal collapse?

My priorities have shifted significantly tonight. Go see "Skyfall?" No. Go out to dinner? No. I'm going to amp up my preparations for the coming collapse. It is inevitable now.

20 posted on 11/06/2012 9:39:40 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

[[Obama now has his mandate to finish what he started.]]

Not only that, but even more sickenly is the fact that the supreme court has essentially given obama it’s blessings to shove an unconstitutional law down our throats- and you can bet it’s just going to get worse- much much worse now that obama is loosed uopn us another 4 years


21 posted on 11/06/2012 9:42:18 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Williams

Bill Clinton understood business and capitalism. Obama does not. This is a lot worse as Obama just may destroy our golden goose.

Right at the time when other countries are beginning to see their rise we pick someone who simply does not get it.

A rich person hires employees so they can get richer. That is it...end of story. I don’t understand what the public wants if they want employment without anyone benefitting financially. Do they want all jobs to be government jobs. Really?


22 posted on 11/06/2012 9:46:31 PM PST by Had_enough_of_Dems
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To: ThunderSleeps

“I’m going to amp up my preparations for the coming collapse.”

Yeah, we need to be wise and realistic. Our economy will collapse in a few years now.

I am looking at Costco survival food. We don’t have any. Any suggestions?

http://www.costco.com/all-emergency-food.html


23 posted on 11/06/2012 9:46:42 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: RC one
"Boehner won’t raise taxes. You can bank on that."

I have repeated from the beginning that Mr.B is a useless, pompous, alcoholic, RINO country-clubber. Ask anyone who actually knows him. It was a mistake from Day-1 to put him in that important position. We need a fresh start with someone who is fearless, intelligent.....and sober.

24 posted on 11/06/2012 9:47:45 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: TigerClaws
As all of you know, I am a “ Broken Glass Republican”. I go all the way back to Roosevelt, and Wendel Wilke, so I have had some experience in coming out on the short end of the stick in the Political Arena.

I have thought about it quite a bit, and let me share two thoughts with you. #1 No matter who is elected, the financial state of our Nation is beyone help. So all the next President can do is keep printing money and making each dollar out there worth less and less. #2 I will be glad to see the complete collapse of our nation be hung around the neck of the person who caused it. Let Obama try to explain, when the money is no longer any good.#3 is a PS> if you are a Gold and Silver Hoarder, you are going to love Obama, Precious Metal is going through the roof, so just hook your seat belt and hang on. Watch the Chickens come home to roost.

25 posted on 11/06/2012 9:47:49 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ( Your life is like a coin, you can spend it on what ever you want, but you can only spend it once.)
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To: TigerClaws
As all of you know, I am a “ Broken Glass Republican”. I go all the way back to Roosevelt, and Wendel Wilke, so I have had some experience in coming out on the short end of the stick in the Political Arena.

I have thought about it quite a bit, and let me share two thoughts with you. #1 No matter who is elected, the financial state of our Nation is beyone help. So all the next President can do is keep printing money and making each dollar out there worth less and less. #2 I will be glad to see the complete collapse of our nation be hung around the neck of the person who caused it. Let Obama try to explain, when the money is no longer any good.#3 is a PS> if you are a Gold and Silver Hoarder, you are going to love Obama, Precious Metal is going through the roof, so just hook your seat belt and hang on. Watch the Chickens come home to roost.

26 posted on 11/06/2012 9:48:04 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ( Your life is like a coin, you can spend it on what ever you want, but you can only spend it once.)
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To: Scooter100

I’m sure the GOP leadership will give your opinion all the consideration that it deserves.


27 posted on 11/06/2012 9:51:46 PM PST by RC one (AKIN-2016)
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To: garjog

Not Costco. The stuff at Sams is better, cheaper, & more versatile. Costco is a lib outfit. We belong to both because we buy a few things (including the dogs’ meds) that we can’t get that cheap or at all anywhere else.


28 posted on 11/06/2012 9:53:59 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Williams

Don’t kid yourself. We’ve never been here before.


29 posted on 11/06/2012 9:55:35 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Williams

It is horrible. Yes, there are some silver linings to be found. But all said, the cheating and lies along with the gross negligence of the media have squeaked out a narrow victory for their leftist takeover.

Benghazi, gun walking, Sandy, many criminal offenses, and the economic failure of this administration should have ended this presidency if just one was reported fairly and objectively.

But God is in control. This is His judgment on our wicked nation. He will take care of those who mourn the murder, theft, perversion and idolatry that has filled our land. The vitriolic left will continue to push their fascism, and Obama will lead them.

We are left to decide whether to flee or fight. Either way we know our nation is on a path to destruction, and we must prepare to protect and provide for our loved ones.


30 posted on 11/06/2012 9:57:01 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: BooBoo1000
if you are a Gold and Silver Hoarder, you are going to love Obama, Precious Metal is going through the roof, so just hook your seat belt and hang on. Watch the Chickens come home to roost.

Yeah, until the prick outlaws all PM transactions and confiscates everyone's PM holdings, the way FDR did. For a "reasonable" market price, of course. LMAO.

31 posted on 11/06/2012 9:58:03 PM PST by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: KGeorge

“stuff at Sams is better,”

Thanks. We live about a mile from a Costco and I hadn’t thought about them being liberal.

You are right.

I think that it is time that we boycott liberal businesses that helped ruin our nation with this election.

I will check out Sams Club’s page.


32 posted on 11/06/2012 10:09:31 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Mortrey

Trial by fire . . well, it gets old having just a few of the socialist cesspools up north voting us hicks down here in the south a miserable situation time after time.


33 posted on 11/06/2012 10:12:15 PM PST by Twinkie (REMEMBER BENGHAZI !!!!)
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To: garjog

I’m beyond upset. I’m numb and I’m shutting down for now. This country is beyond hope and the 47+ percent don’t want to hear it, so what can you do? I guess we need to hit rock bottom before the idiots figure out we are on the wrong track and try to get the country back to where we were, although I fear it’ll be too late. I’ll probably be dead and buried by then so I won’t care, but I feel sorry for my kids and grand kids, although they know how much I tried.

The only thing that gives me any comfort is telling my free-loading Obama-loving brother-in-law he’s not welcome for Thanksgiving this year. I’m done forcing myself to tolerate liberals. They can FO as far as I’m concerned.


34 posted on 11/06/2012 10:12:17 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby!)
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To: Williams

Something to keep in mind, folks, is now dear leader and his useful idiots will have no excuse, no justification when things finally crash...and they will under dear leader’s economic stupidity.

Yeah, Obama might go the dictator route when that happens, but so what? He won’t have anything close to the blind loyalty and admiration the Germans gave Hitler (mainly because there will be no nationalistic zeal in his actions), and even as a dictator, he’ll be shouldering the burden of keeping his followers happy, and nothing can make the irrational work.

I’m as disappointed as anyone over this, but what would you rather have? Things crashing because of four years of democrat leadership under Romney and Republicans getting all the blame, probably leading to them never stepping foot in the White House for who knows how long? Or things crashing under the party that kicked out the foundation and them not having any way to escape the blame that rightly rests with them?

Right now, the thing to do is to keep fighting, to continue to stand for individual rights, to keep the spark alive. The world does not run on collectivism and sacrifice; it runs on individual rights and freedom, and we need to make certain that they will still be around when the looter’s society collapses.

America was built from scratch once when the idea of individual liberty was new and had everything against it. It can be built again when the idea is much, much more recognized.


35 posted on 11/06/2012 10:13:29 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Prince of Space

“I’m done forcing myself to tolerate liberals. “

Hear, hear. I am forced work with some pathetic, self righteous liberals and from now on I am avoiding these creeps any way that I can.


36 posted on 11/06/2012 10:20:24 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: garjog

I cancelled a dinner I had with a liberal friend of mine. Frankly, I couldn’t stand listening to it. I have been friends with her for 30 years but I have been seriously contemplating telling her we just don’t share the same values. And that’s what this is all about really. The people who don’t believe in and/or revere God voted for O. Except for those who think Obama is God.


37 posted on 11/06/2012 10:29:03 PM PST by malkee (V)
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To: Williams

If we want to turn this country around, we have four years to change the laws for the welfare states. Mandatory drug tests for anyone receiving welfare. Positive ID for all voters to be sure they are citizens. Clean out the illegal immigrants.

Get the picture???? We’ve been had once too often and it’s time to turn the tide.


38 posted on 11/06/2012 10:37:58 PM PST by Archer24 (Get a life - I've had two and am lookingfor more.)
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To: Williams

We are Argentina now. Recall that before the Perons Argentina was in the top 5 economic powers in the world. It remains a Third World basket case and the military coups couldn’t set it straight. Being Argentina is permanent, it seems. I’ll never forget how on William F. Buckley’s TV show on PBS back in the 80s an Argentinian guest warned that this was where the country was heading. William F, leaned back in his chair as was his habit, you waited when he would fall back, and dismissed the warning as was his other habit. Don’t compare us to Greece or Spain, which were never powerhouses, we are witnessing the Argentina Syndrome. Don’t cry for us, Argentina!


39 posted on 11/06/2012 10:38:31 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: RC one
"....GOP leadership...."

"Leadership", boy now there's a great word for us here tonight, huh? It'd be sporting if a few of these "leaders" had the common decency to resign, wouldn't it? Whoever the heck they are.

40 posted on 11/06/2012 10:51:50 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Williams

I think I am Living in an Episode of The Twilight Zone,none of what happened makes any sense.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 3:25:38 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: malkee

“The people who don’t believe in and/or revere God voted for O.”

Yeah, but there a whole bunch of Christians I know who took pride in voting for O. These are evangelicals who should know better but like the idea of “social justice” and “health care” for all. Disgusting.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 1:37:40 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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