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Tough choices if Obama wins but loses popular vote
Firstpost.com ^ | Nov 7, 2012

Posted on 11/06/2012 7:15:57 PM PST by 11th_VA

Washington: An uncertain four years could await President Barack Obama if, under one possible outcome of Tuesday’s election, he clings to power despite losing the popular vote to Republican Mitt Romney.

Never before in US history has a sitting president won a second term without winning the popular vote. This year, it’s within the realm of possibility. A very tight race seems to favor Obama in the handful of most competitive states that will decide the winner, even if growing Republican enthusiasm means more voters overall go for Romney.

If that happens, Obama would face mounting problems—stubbornly high unemployment, Mideast unrest, the “fiscal cliff” of tax increases and spending cuts in January—with little ability to claim Americans support his way forward, political analysts say.

“If there’s any room in these results for Republicans to say the public doesn’t support what he’s doing, it would make an already toxic, incredibly difficult situation that much worse,” Princeton University historian Julian Zelizer said.

Call it Al Gore’s revenge. In the 2000 election, the vice president was denied the presidency despite winning more votes than President George W. Bush. Even after the Supreme Court settled the race, allegations of a “bloodless coup” deprived Bush of the clear mandate needed to unite a divided nation, until the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks united Americans against a terrorist threat.

A decade later, as a bitter election draws to a close, Americans are even more divided.

Four US presidents have assumed office despite losing the popular vote, including Bush and John Quincy Adams, who in 1824 lost both the popular and electoral vote but was handed the election by the House of Representatives.

All of those elections involved non-incumbents seeking their first term. For a sitting president to lose the popular vote and yet remain the world’s most powerful leader would be uncharted territory, raising difficult questions about our electoral system.

A look at the map makes it easy to see exactly how it could happen. Passions run high this year among Republicans, and turnout for Romney probably will be big — especially in Southern states that he’s likely to win. But last-minute polls show Obama clinging to a small advantage in a handful of battleground states like Ohio and Florida, which could enable him to block Romney’s path to the requisite 270 electoral votes. Those votes are won state by state and decide the election.

“This is going to be a turnout election,” Obama said Monday in a radio interview. “We’ve got the votes to win Florida. It just depends on whether people turn out or not.”

If Obama marches to 270 but loses the popular vote, he would face the unpleasant prospect of spending four years as a president with little power. “Republicans would have a pretty strong hand to play against him,” said Craig Robinson, the Iowa Republicans’ former political director.

No politician wants to be relegated to irrelevance. Unshackled from Democratic donors and with his last election behind him, a second-term Obama could maneuver sharply toward the center, seeking compromise with Republicans on major issues as did his Democratic predecessor, former President Bill Clinton. He might rethink his call for raising taxes on wealthier Americans to pay for deficit reduction, or pull back some environmental or business regulations in the interest of getting things done for the American people.

Such a move inevitably would anger the liberal base to which he owes his presidency, said Hank Sheinkopf, a Democratic strategist. But Obama may not have a choice.

“If you’re on the way out the door and you’re a ‘lame duck,’ offending people doesn’t matter anymore,” Sheinkopf said.

What matters is salvaging your legacy.

Americans remember the big, sweeping acts that define a generation. Think Mars exploration, a major climate initiative or a war on cancer, said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University.

“President Obama will need to put his stamp on something large,” Brinkley said. “Our country is dying for something that unites us.”


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To: 11th_VA

At the very least I can tell all my Liberal Morons that call themselves my friends that hey tell me again about how you wanted to pick the president using the popular vote....


41 posted on 11/06/2012 8:14:22 PM PST by GraceG
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To: celtic gal

Benghazi=Impeachment...and Bonehead becomes President,,now there is a thought.

weird thing is that Biden becomes another Gerald Ford....

Hoo boy...


42 posted on 11/06/2012 8:16:20 PM PST by GraceG
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To: 11th_VA

Romney winning 51% to 48% in popular vote as I type ...

EXPECT the MSM to Re-discover “How great the Electoral College” is.....

Especially after them thinking how horrible it was after 2000....


43 posted on 11/06/2012 8:17:43 PM PST by GraceG
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To: 11th_VA

Obama will preside over another recession, a severe one, with double digit unemployment, $5 + gas, increasing inflation and earth shaking incidents abroad and probably a major terror attack at home. I’m not wishing for any of these just to make Obama’s second term miserable for him, I just see these as the inevitable results of his policies continuing.


44 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:06 PM PST by milemark (Wait 'till they get a load of my binders...)
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To: doc1019
Exactly.

If Obama marches to 270 but loses the popular vote, he would face the unpleasant prospect of spending four years as a president with little power.

Obviously, he does not care about this.

45 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:42 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi. That says it all.)
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To: cyn

He has discovered the Executive Order, therefore there are no bounds. Ye Ole Executive Order seems to circumvent all constitutional benefits of a three part government.


46 posted on 11/06/2012 9:30:28 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Clinging Bitterly

In Texas, we are on his (s)h!t list.


47 posted on 11/06/2012 9:58:08 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama killed Gadaffi. How's that working out these days?)
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To: 11th_VA
Obama could have won this by one electoral vote and not won the total vote, and he wouldn't care one iota. He (or should I say Valerie Jarrett) will move full steam ahead with their plans knowing full well their lapdog media will cover for them.
48 posted on 11/06/2012 10:41:18 PM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Well... I keep on hearing about how invincible he is with the media... well, why not consider the media as his agents and treat them accordingly? Why not picket them as the government is picketed? March on their studios and offices? They are political players now, they should pay the price of taking sides.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 1:01:24 AM PST by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: coydog

>>>why not consider the media as his agents and treat them accordingly? Why not picket them as the government is picketed?

I completely agree.

By the way, the most recent Drudge headline has Obama winning the popular vote as well.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 1:11:19 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: Monorprise

I said what I meant.

A slight majority did not vote for a President of a free people. They voted for four years of one man arbitrary rule. As understood by our Founders, when our reps do not make the law, we are reduced to the status of slaves.


51 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:16 AM PST by Jacquerie (Welcome to arbitrary government.)
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