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Chicago Gun-Buyers Face First-in-Nation $25 Tax
NewsMax ^ | 02 Nov 2012 | Thomson/Reuters

Posted on 11/03/2012 9:04:16 AM PDT by Qbert

The county that includes Chicago on Friday approved a tax on firearms to help pay the healthcare costs from gun violence, the first major U.S. metropolitan area to impose such a tax as a form of gun control.

Under the plan, Cook County, Ill., will impose a $25 tax on each firearm sold. The tax is expected to raise $600,000 in revenue in 2013.

With Friday's vote, the nation's second most populous county with nearly 5.2 million residents becomes the first major U.S. metropolitan area to impose a tax as a form of gun control, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

The Cook County board of commissioners voted 9 to 7 to approve the firearms tax.

Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle, who proposed the handgun tax, had earlier this week abandoned an additional proposed tax of 5 cents a bullet because the tax in some cases would have exceeded the price of ammunition.

Preckwinkle said that 670 victims of gun violence had been treated by the county's health system last year. The average cost per patient was $52,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago

1 posted on 11/03/2012 9:04:25 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert
Sounds like infringement.

Maybe they should put a tax on illegal gun carriers.

2 posted on 11/03/2012 9:05:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Qbert

Do street thugs send in the tax voluntarily after they steal a gun, trade for drugs or buy one in an alley?


3 posted on 11/03/2012 9:07:07 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: Qbert
"He said it would prompt people to purchase weapons elsewhere."

Revenue expectations unlikely to be met.

4 posted on 11/03/2012 9:07:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Qbert

Just another reason to NOT live in an Urban city. They are decaying, death trap killing fields. Adding taxes for the luxury of being able to protect oneself is just the icing on the turd pie they want to feed lawful citizens.

I will be glad to see these places go.


5 posted on 11/03/2012 9:08:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Qbert

I don’t think they will get that much money. I am within 10 minutes drive of two gun shops, Cabalas in Cook and Gat’s Guns in Kane. I predict that Gat’s Guns will be picking up more sales then Cabalas.


6 posted on 11/03/2012 9:08:47 AM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: Qbert

It’s the usual poorly thought out Rat horse sh*t, the only people it effects are the honest citizens.


7 posted on 11/03/2012 9:10:27 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Qbert
Taxing guns for gun crime is like taxing forks because people are fat.


8 posted on 11/03/2012 9:12:47 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Qbert
Good. Now it's our turn. WE are going to put a $25 tax on every news article published. You tax our freedom, we tax yours.

Next, we will limit the size of Starbucks containers to 1 ounce as they also cause obesity. After Starbucks, we're coming after hummus. Finally, we will tax ANY computers manufactured outside the US....computers defined as anything device requiring electricity and using a computing chip.

9 posted on 11/03/2012 9:13:13 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Baynative

"Do street thugs send in the tax voluntarily after they steal a gun, trade for drugs or buy one in an alley?"

Logic is not exactly a strong suit for the leftists.

10 posted on 11/03/2012 9:15:40 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
Next year it will be $50 and the year after that it will be $100 and the year after that...
11 posted on 11/03/2012 9:17:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Solson

Or how about an EBT card useage tax. Either a percentage or a per swipe fee (or both). It’s “unearned” income after all.


12 posted on 11/03/2012 9:20:16 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: Qbert

Peoples who hand over a gun in exchange to a $50 shopping vouncher are not going to be thrilled with that.


13 posted on 11/03/2012 9:21:34 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend)
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To: Baynative
Do street thugs send in the tax voluntarily after they steal a gun, trade for drugs or buy one in an alley?

Exactly. Do the pandering leftist fools think that the shooters of these children were gonna pay a tax?

14 posted on 11/03/2012 9:31:33 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: Qbert

To pay the health care costs for gun violence.

Right.

Pretty ironic coming from the birthplace of obamacare, which will, after all, require all gun owners to carry health insurance.

Didn’t Emanuel read the damn bill?


15 posted on 11/03/2012 9:33:54 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Qbert
The communists in this Country will tax us to death.
16 posted on 11/03/2012 9:42:52 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Qbert

When we had some folks at Republican Party meetings crowing about the fact that the Texas Legislature had placed a head tax on everyone who set foot in a strip club, I made my self unpopular by stating that the government should not place punitive taxes on legal businesses, just because the business is unpopular with a majority of the Legislature. I said “wait until the Democrats win an election, and put a $10 tax on setting foot in a gun shop or gun show.”


17 posted on 11/03/2012 9:44:10 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Qbert

When we had some folks at Republican Party meetings crowing about the fact that the Texas Legislature had placed a head tax on everyone who set foot in a strip club, I made my self unpopular by stating that the government should not place punitive taxes on legal businesses, just because the business is unpopular with a majority of the Legislature. I said “wait until the Democrats win an election, and put a $10 tax on setting foot in a gun shop or gun show.”


18 posted on 11/03/2012 9:49:34 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Paladin2

Infringement alright! Especially for those who cannot afford liberal good intentions. Like the poor.


19 posted on 11/03/2012 9:50:55 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Qbert
The tax is expected to raise $600,000 in revenue in 2013. ~~~ Periwinkle said that 670 victims of gun violence had been treated by the county's health system last year. The average cost per patient was $52,000.
HUH? $52,000 x 670 = $34,840,000 - $600,000 = ($34,240,000)
And this tax is supposed to offset the County's cost? Someone flunked math.
20 posted on 11/03/2012 10:03:37 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
after that it will be $100 and the year after that...

... comes the law of diminishing returns. People will buy guns in surrounding counties. Libs hate it when people foil their plans by exercising their rights.

BYW, do any Freepers know that the City of Chicago gets $10 bucks per passenger for every plane that lands and takes off from O'Hare? It's a perfect libbie tax - hidden, so people blame the airlines for high airfares.

21 posted on 11/03/2012 10:08:19 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Qbert
Surely this is racist!
The white folk can go into the suburbs and get their guns, but the blacks not so easily. But then again, how many of the guns in the inner city are bought legally, anyway?
22 posted on 11/03/2012 10:15:46 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Qbert
Under the plan, Cook County, Ill., will impose a $25 tax on each firearm sold.

How about ILLEGAL GUN SALES?? Are they taxed??

23 posted on 11/03/2012 10:16:59 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: Gaffer
Want to protect yourself, then pay the Gov.

Why not, Obamacare is a breathing tax. Then they take 50% of whats left when you die.

This Government needs to be stopped with a pitchfork up their collective ASSES!

24 posted on 11/03/2012 10:25:10 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: ExCTCitizen
Under the plan, Cook County, Ill., will impose a $25 tax on each firearm sold.

Preckwinkle's original plan was a tax on ammo ... five cents per bullet ... it got laughed out of existence. An afternoon at the range could get pretty expensive.

25 posted on 11/03/2012 10:25:26 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: Condor51
At least with Obamacare they can legally deny care.
There's the savings Obama was talking about.
26 posted on 11/03/2012 10:28:21 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Baynative
There a box on their income tax form they can check to pay the $25 tax:

Thug $25 Gun Tax

27 posted on 11/03/2012 10:50:10 AM PDT by carriage_hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: mongo141
the only people it effects are the honest citizens.

To use a favorite rant of the lefties; it unfairly discriminates against poor citizens and will have a disproportionate impact on them.

In this case the rant is true and points to potential vulnerability of such a tax to a lawsuit.

Regards,
GtG

28 posted on 11/03/2012 10:50:32 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Qbert

$24.95 of that fee will disappear into the coffers of the “democrat machine”. Everybody will get their “taste”.


29 posted on 11/03/2012 10:56:17 AM PDT by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: Qbert
Tax Hoodies!
30 posted on 11/03/2012 11:08:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Condor51

Obviously this was a totally symbolic slam at legal gun purchasers.


31 posted on 11/03/2012 11:41:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Qbert
Isn't this akin to a poll tax to vote?
32 posted on 11/03/2012 12:16:16 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Qbert

First they tax them for a police force that is not doing the job.

Then they tax them for trying to protect themselves and their families from murderous thugs.

Pure obama style logic.

Trying to put the local dealers out of business. The city is assuming people will go out of the city to buy.


33 posted on 11/03/2012 2:16:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: DPMD
To pay the health care costs for gun violence.

No, no, no, no, no. It will SAVE on costs. I expect people to keep shooting until the perp is down. Most of them will die. Just think of all the court costs and jail costs if the guy is caught and goes to trial.

34 posted on 11/03/2012 2:22:30 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: MaxMax
*** At least with Obamacare they can legally deny care. There's the savings Obama was talking about. ***

:-) Uh-Huh. Deny the thugs medical care in Chicago. That'll happen when Lake Michigan rises and makes my Village's east border Lakeside Property.

But seriously, from what I've seen posted the last few days about whose excluded from Obamacare, these thugs are in that group: a) Below the poverty level or, b) on Medicaid (which I'm already paying for anyway).

But what CRook County *should* and could do to get these mutts to pay is go after their personal assist with a Tax Lien. As everyone of them is driving a pretty new car with fancy rims. Videos of these creeps can be found on YouTube and their cars are all newer than ours - seize the cars. And you can bet they do file a Tax Form for Child Credits. So they're getting 'Free Money' from us for taxes they didn't pay - seize that too. Even if the 'patient' is a minor, someone is claiming them on a Tax Form for a child credit - seize that money too.

The County would do this to any other patient or group who owed them for a Hospital Bill so nothing makes the bangers exempt. Except they're the same color as the CRook County Board.

35 posted on 11/04/2012 8:05:45 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
You bet. And worse -- but which will not be mentioned -- Racist.

The County Board is controlled by Chicago Black pols through a deal struck with Daley years ago: They get the County Board and they don't run for Mayor of Chicago. And the Board looks at all of Suburban Chicago within Cook County as a piggy-bank, the money to be spent on and in Chicago. The 'rich' Northwest suburbs are especially targeted.

So all this $25.00 per gun tax will really do is close down most gun shops in Cook County. Only a few had lower prices to begin with, and not by much. And this tax serves another purpose, an end run to more Gun Control.
(Cook County already has an Assault Weapon Ban that almost nobody knows about.)

36 posted on 11/04/2012 8:20:35 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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